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[Androobie]

Well it IS a show on Netflix.

Well, that’s news to me.

 

[redfeatherraven]

excuse me what

In his defense, it is on Netflix now.

 

[Deleted member]

Situations like this are proof that "gameplay is the most important thing" is a myth that's only spread by gamers who feel the need to paint video games as objectively superior to other mediums.

All aspects of a game are just as important as the other.

I wasn't necessarily saying otherwise, just lamenting that such a fun game was dragged down by it's problems. MvCI had many flaws, especially in it's PSABR-level presentation and largely recycled/lackluster roster, but gameplay was definitely not one of them.

If games were just gameplay, it would just be watching a bunch of mathematical equations play out. Which is boring to most people.

See; Capcom reps talking about how MvC characters are just "functions".
That was a fun ****storm to watch unfold.

 

[Deleted member]

E

In his defense, it is on Netflix now.

I wish Netflix had Back to the Future. ;-;

 

[vaanrose]

It wasn't Capcom's fault the X-Men weren't there, but I sure as heck wasn't gonna play an MvC without Wolverine.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

All aspects of a game are just as important as the other. If games were just gameplay, it would just be watching a bunch of mathematical equations play out. Which is boring to most people.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you here but fighting games are a different beast altogether. A lot of it depends on how the game feels to play. Fighting games are fun because of the mathematics but your right the flashy visuals give fighting games a certain amount of oomph that makes them fun to watch. HOWEVER in a crossover the most important thing is the character roster. If the game would’ve had Wolverine, Deadpool, Storm, Captain Commando, etc. and hadn’t rehashed 90% of the roster straight from UMvC3 the game would have done a lot better despite the visuals.

Probably a Castlevania reference.
I really do not watch that show, so I do not get it.

excuse me what

Atta boy!

Well it IS a show on Netflix.

No, bad Yoshi! Don’t defend him!

For the record the actual line is “ What a HORRIBLE night to have a curse” I just think Terrible sounds better. Still. I’m disappointed to find out that Shiny hasn’t played nor watched Castlevania at all...

 

[vaanrose]

What a HORRIBLE night to have a curse” I just think Terrible sounds better.

The fact that "Terrible" sounds better is why you shouldn't change it, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Atta boy!

No, bad Yoshi! Don’t defend him!

For the record the actual line is “ What a HORRIBLE night to have a curse” I just think Terrible sounds better. Still. I’m disappointed to find out that Shiny hasn’t played nor watched Castlevania at all...

What do you expect? I am an uncultured swine compared to you weebs.

 

[ChikoLad]

gameplay was definitely not one of them.

I know, everything else was.

Which is why the game is such a good example of how "gameplay is most important" is such huge myth.

Gaming is no different to any other medium, there are multiple elements that make up the complete package and it is not the same without all of them.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you here but fighting games are a different beast altogether.

No they aren't. Where is THIS myth coming from?

 

[Deleted member]

NonSpecificGuy
Sorry I disappointed you.

 

[Zinith]

No, bad Yoshi! Don’t defend him!

I'm a bad Yoshi. I shoulda harangued a 15-year old for not knowing about a franchise.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

No they aren't. Where is THIS myth coming from?

I mean fighting games can make it or break it depending on the communities competitive spirit. No other genre can say that. A crappy looking game can still do a damn good job if it’s fun to play against people. Fighting EX Layer is a good example of a new game that looks like Garbo, plays great, and sells fine not great, but fine especially for being hella niche. Other games don’t have that competitive nature that keeps the game going. I mean look at Melee. Over 15 years later an people would still rather play it than any other Smash despite how dated it looks and how broken it’s since become.

 

[Idon]

NonSpecificGuy
Sorry I disappointed you.

With this I finally realize that the newest generation of gamers might forget the memes of old, like miserable piles of secrets.

I guess in the end, we were the monsters that don't belong in this world...

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

NonSpecificGuy
Sorry I disappointed you.

‘Twas a joke Shiny

 

[Zinith]

With this I finally realize that the newest generation of gamers might forget the memes of old, like miserable piles of secrets.

I guess in the end, we were the monsters that don't belong in this world...

But enough talk, HAVE AT YOU!!!

 

[Mythra]

With this I finally realize that the newest generation of gamers might forget the memes of old, like miserable piles of secrets.

I guess in the end, we were the monsters that don't belong in this world...

Enough talk... have at you!

 

[praline]

The **** is that avy, Shiny

 

[Androobie]

The **** is that avy, Shiny

A damn masterpiece.

 

[Zinith]

The **** is that avy, Shiny

Weird Al as interpreted by Van Gogh?

 

[Deleted member]

Homemade fried chicken is the most tedious **** but it's also so worth it that I'm patient enough to stand in the kitchen for 2 hours to make it.

The **** is that avy, Shiny

This.
Also quite possibly the most surreal mainstream meme I've ever seen in my life.

 

[ChikoLad]

I mean fighting games can make it or break it depending on the communities competitive spirit. No other genre can say that. A crappy looking game can still do a damn good job if it’s fun to play against people. Fighting EX Layer is a good example of a new game that looks like Garbo, plays great, and sells fine not great, but fine especially for being hella niche. Other games don’t have that competitive nature that keeps the game going. I mean look at Melee. Over 15 years later an people would still rather play it than any other Smash despite how dated it looks and how broken it’s since become.

Fighting games do not need the competitive scene to be successful, nor are competitive scenes exclusive to the genre. Even single-player games have competitive scenes via speedrunning.

There is such a thing as enjoying a fighting game from a more casual standpoint, and the vast majority of people who buy fighting games fit into that category. Many fighting games have been commercial successes without being some big hit in the FGC. Many fighting games were hugely successful before the FGC and e-Sports even became profitable and worth investing in for game publishers.

Things like characters, context, visuals, and music, are just as important in fighting games as any other genre and when utilised well, will enhance the experience and value proposition of the product as much as in any other genre.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if the switch will get some dora games???

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Fighting games do not need the competitive scene to be successful, nor are competitive scenes exclusive to the genre. Even single-player games have competitive scenes via speedrunning.

There is such a thing as enjoying a fighting game from a more casual standpoint, and the vast majority of people who buy fighting games fit into that category. Many fighting games have been commercial successes without being some big hit in the FGC. Many fighting games were hugely successful before the FGC and e-Sports even became profitable and worth investing in for game publishers.

Things like characters, context, visuals, and music, are just as important in fighting games as any other genre and when utilised well, will enhance the experience as much as in any other genre.

Let’s just agree to disagree dude.

 

[Deleted member]

‘Twas a joke Shiny

Oh.

The **** is that avy, Shiny

A stupid meme.

A damn masterpiece.

This guy is a man of culture.

 

[Knight Dude]

I would argue that gameplay is still the most important aspect in most, if not all situations. However, in the case of a game that relies on the IPs/Characters in it, AND on spectacle, Marvel Infinite needed more than a solid foundation in its gameplay, especially since many people also preferred 3v3 instead 2v2. Had the game only had ONE major flaw, say it's visuals, but had a better soundtrack and kept the X-Men and Dr. Doom, they would have far less complaints. But the game had MULTIPLE elements that fell short, which held back the gameplay that still took a bit of a risk with it's new mechanics.

No one is saying those other elements aren't important, but the reason the scene is still alive in some sense is because the gameplay is good, in spite of its many, many shortcomings.

 

[Androobie]

I wonder if the switch will get some dora games???

This guy is asking the real questions that nobody is brave enough to ask.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Pac-Land is a fun stage to goof around in, but I really wish instead to the original game's backgrounds, they completely remade it with modern visuals.

Also, the actual Pac-Land theme was absent in Smash 4, for some odd reason.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if the switch will get some dora games???

A new Dora game is already leaked.

Spoiler: Leak!

 

[Deleted member]

A new Dora game is already leaked.

Spoiler: Leak!

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YES!!!!!!!!!

 

[Androobie]

A new Dora game is already leaked.

Spoiler: Leak!

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Dude, the hand-drawn graphics look amazing. What’s the gameplay like?

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if the switch will get some dora games???

This guy is asking the real questions that nobody is brave enough to ask.

Do kids today even watch Dora the Explorer anymore? I thought they were all caught up in Fortnite and vaguely questionable Youtube content.

 

[Deleted member]

Dude, the hand-drawn graphics look amazing. What’s the gameplay like?

Dora has to help out her friends and do a lot of stuff.

Great story, good jokes, great graphics despite being on a Switch, good gameplay and controls and so on. 10/10 Best game of all time.

Also I heard Dora and Boots are newcomers in Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Sakurai told me to tell NintenZone the news. I love Sakurai.

 

[ChikoLad]

Let’s just agree to disagree dude.

This isn't a matter of opinion.

You used Melee as an example. Melee sold 7 million copies. How many people are actively interested in the e-Sports scene of Melee, let alone active e-Sports players? Those numbers are in the thousands, hundred thousands at most. And that scene didn't even exist when Melee was still a new game being sold on shelves.

Fighting games don't need e-Sports to be fun and successful video games. It's the other way around.

 

[praline]

Homemade fried chicken is the most tedious **** but it's also so worth it that I'm patient enough to stand in the kitchen for 2 hours to make it.

This.
Also quite possibly the most surreal mainstream meme I've ever seen in my life.

Wow... how did I know that was markiplie’s face on farquaad’s head? lol

 

[Deleted member]

I looked at Camilla's Spring art a while back today and again and geez those breasts are massive.

 

[Deleted member]

Also I heard Dora and Boots are newcomers in Smash Bros. Ultimate.

That was me!!! Lol

 

[ChikoLad]

I looked at Camilla's Spring art a while back today and again and geez those breasts are massive.

More news at 11.

 

[Androobie]

I looked at Camilla's Spring art a while back today and again and geez those breasts are massive.

plz

just don’t

 

[Ivander]

Situations like this are proof that "gameplay is the most important thing" is a myth that's only spread by gamers who feel the need to paint video games as objectively superior to other mediums.

All aspects of a game are just as important as the other. If games were just gameplay, it would just be watching a bunch of mathematical equations play out. Which is boring to most people.

All aspects of a game are important. But the reason I consider gameplay the most important is that more options won't help if your players aren't enjoying themselves from playing the game. With great gameplay, you at least get enjoyment out of a game until you are asking yourself, "What can I do now?". Great gameplay has you wanting more from your game because you enjoy it and you want to enjoy it and in the cases of great games, they have you wanting to come back and play, even after you have done it all. If there is little to do, you can only enjoy as much until you burn out quickly for doing the same thing over and over since there isn't anything else to do.
Now if the gameplay is bad and you aren't enjoying what you are doing, the extra content is more than likely not going to help, especially as most "content" tends to be the same thing, but with an "add-on", like Time Attack, Survival, etc. With modes that change quite a bit, there can be hope. But the modes can only change so much to stay in touch with the gameplay of the game and if the gameplay is bad, then the modes suffer as well.

That's why I consider gameplay the most important, but of course that doesn't mean all other aspects should be neglected, especially in this day and age. Like, I can see why some gamers see gameplay as the most important when you take a look at games back then, especially games that have still aged well like Pac-Man, Super Mario Bros. etc.
But today, alongside what games can do, games have added more standards, things that people expect games to do. And those standards have taken priority over gameplay and it's no longer the "only" thing that developers have to sell a game to people. Crossovers are a huge example. The appeal of crossovers comes from the characters and other things about the series that are crossing over. So while you can have a crossover game that has great gameplay, if your choice of characters crossing over aren't selling it to people, it will fall flat and the gameplay won't help it one bit.

 

[Natz~]

Spoiler: nintenzone rimworld colony 2 log 31, jugust 11th 5501

the rescue complete and the party nearly about to head out

god damn it uni! you were nearly fully healed! you just needed on more herbal medicine work on your leg but nooooooo you hated being locked up with blood and robots that you went outside to wander in sadnness letting that infection spread!

ugh....oh well just means it stung him a lot, he was pretty much nearly immunity anyway

with that out, back to the homefront and were getting major headaways into finally getting the rensevations in the main building, getting all that nice carpet laid, putting down the ceremonial hall which used to be the main dinningroom but since we all like the bar more anyway i deconstructed it to be part of the rec room and where we'll hold the marriage, its looking spiffy but still need more marble which cori is working feverishly towards!

uh oh....this is bad, now since we've built up a hold here and been here for awhile...were getting some juicy raids in now, 11 angry tribals, many wearing supporting garments are inbound and their weaponry is no joke, lucky enough we got some time to prepare, hope no one was hoping to spend the afternoon lazing about we got a war to prepare for!

now since the rescue party is healed on up nicely and the refugee is saved, uni praline and shiny march their ways back home (even with shiny wandering in sadness) while holland gets left behind in her hut, she didn't join us nor have any interest in so....oh well, we didn't really need her anyway, onward back home fam!

now that the rescue party is on their way home, we can firmly focus on the homefront, here you can see us making this entrance as much as a grinder as possible against the raiders, this seemed like the mostly likely entrance they'll be going through, putting up some wood spike fall traps that'll crash into them when walk over along with making more distance so we can pelter them, sandbags to hopefully stop the majority of arrows coming in, their fast and effective defenses

and there we go, could go better but didn't want anyone to be caught in those traps ourselves nor risk things, yellow and lily up in front to absorb the bulk of impact and to melee fight when things come in hairy, andd woomy up front because shes devastating, while everyone else sits on back to shoot from distance

we sit on back there for a hour or two waiting, we didn't want to not catch them and them showing up at our doorstep instead, thats dangerous

lol while we were waiting two of them had a social fight and beat eachother up, it didn't last that long nor had a winner just was funny

and then they were off

1 is going over the marsh on the side to ambush the shooting squad, 2 are trying to take the middle entrance farther right and the rest are going through the trapped firing squad, them splitting up is good for us as it means we can put more bullets in different bodies at different times

it worked well but could of been better, we did stop some of them before but a good amount went up close and personal to attack us, and we did get ambushed to the side, yellow had to play team tank for a bit against the tribals, who figured it was more preferred to use their bows as melee weapons

and with that sucess, they are turning tail and fleeing, as soon as that happened everyone ganged up on choco to beat him down, and we collected our selves, captured the down and myself personaly chased and downed mandrill, couldn't catch camiar and the two who chose another entrance, they fled and got away but still a good day!

and heres the injury report, only lily, cori, and yellow took damage

but holy **** lily! you have two giant arrows sticking out of your leg, its nearly torn off! how is that still sticking on there geez.... well besides that yellow and cori are both hurtting but their really feel worst than they actually are, just took some punches

and heres the combat report....which normally isn't this unreadable, sorry ya can up...blame the smashed and quality up on me :V katt did something and turns out it was bad don't ever expect this horrible again

anyway looking through the logs, it turns out the mvp is very surprisingly red, shot per shot he had the most accurate hits dealing considerable damage as well, and took down a tribal and killed another

lily was also surprising with a gun for some reason (shiny has her sword) yellow and cori took front and took many hits to stop them from going on back, and shish is usually accurate

the people who didn't pull their weight was me and androobie, androobie at least has the excuse of never fireing a gun before which is why he hardly shot anything, me, nah best use i got out of my sniper rifle was jamming the stock into someone, ****

anywho collected the spoils, some pretty decent neolithic weaponry, and the dead, 4 prisoners wow, lily yellow and cori sent on up to be healed and sleep through the night while we clean on up

oh look at that, some more tribals only these ones aren't here to kill us :V neat, guess we can trade with them as well to boot

aaaaaand they got attacked by a man hunting alpaca lol, oh well their still fine mostly and still willing to trade

oh rip, couldn't heal one of the prisoners fast enough, they died from bloodlost, oh well rip, none of our concern

and thats it, uni, praline, and shiny on their way home and another successful raid underway

Booo! I wanted a gaint mech to crush the puny peons beneth my feet.

oh no trust me you can still use it to crush enemy pawns really well

its just not as big nor as effective crushing then you think it is, its just really effective armor (still cant' do **** against horde gang ups)