Except I look at the opinions of people I know I can compare to my own, not just any random shmuck on the internet
You missed the point, my point was if I knew about what happened in that sidequest beforehand, it wouldn't have hit me so hard emotionally.
That's actually totally ok, but still that's not how I determine whether I should play the game or not though.
I only care about plot twists and emotional stuff too, that's why I try to avoid checking quests overall. I only just check monster locations and collectibles for now.
I feel you're fanboying the game because of the fact that if summon even remotely criticizs the game, you make long *** posts like this going "Actually the game is really really good! You must buy it!"
That's just "feel", therefore sorry if you think that way. I mean I have said and admit I a Xenoblade fanboy, but I am a fanboy of the series, not just one particular game. So if you have time to even check that XC and XC2 comparison I made my statement on which 3 XC games are the best... I just said I can't decide since all of the 3 games are good on their own. There is no best Xenoblade game... yet.
I don't need to check YOUR reviews as I'm not too familiar with your taste and thus can't compare it to mine. Also, HOW exactly did you review XCX when you admitted you haven't played the game? You kinda need to have played the 80+ hour game in order to get a good understanding of it. If anything, it just makes me not want to trust your opinion
Simple rebuttal... I have never review XCX in general...I only look at the Let's Play videos so I only know the stories, I only just mention the things that in XCX I like first handed. I have never judge the side quest, battle system, or skells at all.
What I review was XC2... I thought I made it clear...
That's why I compare XC and XC2 only since the title was obvious, both are story driven. I have spend over 100 hours playing those two games each.
I'm bringing it up because you said a legitimately good score was too low, when it can only be considered low by the amount of good games 2017 had to offer period. I double checked the metacritic score as not all of the reviews were done yet, but are you trying to tell me an average score of 8.3 is low? Because it isn't
So because there were many good game in 2017, so XC2 should get a lower score despite it releasing this year and have a decent gameplay? That's not how gaming review works... If you are talking about medias ranking "Top 10 games of 2017" then yeah, I am totally fine if XC2 didn't make it to any of their list. And XC2 is definitely not the best JRPG in 2017, Persona 5 is, but even then Persona 5 and XC2 are two different types of JRPGs... shouldn't be compared imo.
I also doubt that XC2 will be the best JRPG in 2018, 2018 we will get FE, Nino Kuni II etc...
The reason I said XC2 was underrated is because if you check the user score on Metacritic, it's 8.5 and that's really good.
Now just what in the media scores are you talking about? Now we have 8.3? Metacritic use 100 score system... and I know for a JRPG 83 is decent, but for me who personally thinks this game is slightly better than XCX in some aspects, that's a bit low. I can take 85 but it got 83 thanks to SLANT magazine's short and bias review... the same media who give Botw 3/5 stars btw...
And coming back to talking about the in game mechanics in XC2, I don't get why you mention that... since that has nothing to do with the topic we were discussing...
Not really, as you can check the pokedex for any pokemon you've at least seen, and if you're trying to 100% the game, that means you're talking to every NPC and checking every nook and cranny. The game gives you enough to work with to know where you need to go to find something, plus it's easy to explore. The only exception I could argue is Feebas, but Feebas doesn't appear in a ton of games
So.. what do you do with the Pokemon you haven't seen? What about those old legendaries?
I've asked people who've played the game and who I know have played the previous installments. How is it NOT wise to make sure if you'll enjoy a 60 euro purchase? That's a lot of money, and if I had a Switch, it'd have to rival with other games I'd want to play, so I have to check "Will I enjoy this and should I buy this game before Doom, Odyssey, BotW, Xenoverse 2, etc.?"
That's totally your choice, I don't recommend another person help to judge your purchase.
For me at least, XC2 is already a must buy for me if I got a Switch in 2017, unfortunately it comes late in the year so I got other games such as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, Cave Story + etc... but once XC2 came out, it has become the game I have played the most.
You DO realize I only joined in the discussion of the game right now because I agreed with what someone else said, which was liked by someone who beat the game? Plus, pointing out potential negatives isn't bad, if someone says "Should i buy this game?" and I tell them about what I KNOW is bad about the game, it's not forcing my opinion but it's "Be warned, it contains elements you may not enjoy, namely these" which is absolutely a good thing to do when talking about something that costs a lot of money
You agree with someone else said while didn't really try it out on your own on some features of the game? In my perspective , you can agree with others but that doesn't mean you can properly counter my opinion since I may have the same experience as them (And sorry but... you haven't even played XC2...), and I unfortunately have different opinions, and that's totally normal.
And with XC2, most here in Smashboards just finish the story... I am not sure if anyone had even bother to complete the side quests... again, we were just talking about the side quests... I have spend a lot of time on side quests, and for me they weren't worse than XC and many medias who were reviewing XC2 said that sidequest system in XC2 is a huge improvement over XC.
Same with Switch's Joy Cons before I got Switch I don't really like and I have heard a lot said that Joy Cons aren't good so get a Pro Controller instead, but after I got Switch, they were totally wrong, Joy Cons works perfectly fine for me.
All in all sorry if I still how a bit of my bias here and there, and no offense but some of your points are either personal opinions or just a bit of hit or miss... overall though I can understand where you are coming from. Just like how
@Final Smash Gamer said, maybe Xenoblade as a whole just isn't a game for you.
I just think that when you want to criticize a game, it's better to at least play it by yourself and then have a fair judge, and that's what I did back in the Colony 96 Xenoblade thread.
I highly recommend you check my review:
So with that out of the way here is my Xenoblade Chronicles 2 67 hours non spoilers review:
Forward:
I only played XC 3D on the New 3DS for over 120 hours, that said I only know the terms in Xenoblade but I am not an combat expert or anything, that said I will try my best to explain the XC2 combat as thorough as possible.
First impressions:
I bought my XC2 special edition, the box was pretty large and quite heavy, the cartridge was of course in the steel book. However, the steel book only contains the cartridge and nothing else. So if anyone wants the plastic boxart or expect the special edition to have the original boxart please aware of this.
The controls were way better than XC 3D, and so are the graphics of course even though I have said I am a huge fan of the more anime CGI style. Speaking of...
I aware the CGI isn't everyone's cup of tea but it's definitely for me, so I wasn't too disappoint on the artsyle.
In depth analysis:
(Disclaimer: the PROS, MIXED, AND CONS and merely my own personal opinions.)
PROS:
- Again mention the new artstyle and graphics, this is very subjective but I think Xenoblade went with more modern anime artsyle like Saitou's, Nomura's and many others is just fits my taste. Other NPCs aren't all designed by Saitou though. And landscape now is a huge improvement over XC, and on par with X. Which means...
- Characters overall are great, Pyra is awesome, Rex is awesome, Nia is awesome, even Tora is more appealing than Riki... and...
- Cutscenes are probably the most enjoyable, they may be long but hey I enjoy watching those cutscenes, this also leads to...
- MUSIC.. NUFF SAID
- The fact that they you can rewatch those cutscenes is also a huge benefit, and yes, all cutscenes and switch language, and some can even change the weather and daytime. There's also more cutscenes on other stuff that I won't revel it yet...
- The world build overall is more complex than XC, which is actually good imo, I still need to see if the complex world building will make the story epic as the first.
- The controls is better than Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, I notice I sort of squished my numb on my New 3DS XL after hours of playing.
- The fact that you can switch map style is great, at first I thought I will hate the all map style but sometimes it helped a lot when I am searching stuff.
- Rare Blades... which is one of the main reason why I enjoy grinding and battling. My personal favs are Newt, Electra, Finch,and surprisingly... Floren... he's probably the best healer on my crew besides Dromarch.
- After defeating unique monster you can just battle it again after activating the tomb stone.
- Quest are much more easy to complete or navigate... sort of...
- Heart to Hearts have voice actings, which is really cool.
MIXED
- Voice acting... not all VA are perfect... Tora has the best voice for a Nopon, Pyra's English VA somewhat doesn't fit her well... but she still nails it nonetheless. Rex as long as he doesn't scream or rage he's also ok. Nia at first I have a bit of grudge on her voice but I'm getting used to it. I also give a shout out on Floren's English VA which imo his VA nails Floren's voice as a trap... I mean literally a trap, the fact that Floren can be have both manly and feminine tone is just...wow... not even Japanese VA can do this, Floren literally sounds like a girl in Japanese.
- The cutscene were awesome but some are unusually long even though they tend to be important. Also...
- There were unnecessary anime cliches, not a flaw but just need to mention...
- Collecting Aux Cores and then need to refine them isn't a hassle but I'm sure it will be annoying with some Aux core that requires rare collectibles.
- Handheld graphics isn't as bad as how some people say. It isn't perfect but I never felt that the graphic is so bad when playing. It does have minor frame drops but this doesn't happen too often.
- Tutorials... are a bit mediocre... and you can still somewhat get tutorials by buying those infos in each regions...
- Quest are more manageable but this also means that the quests can be pretty lengthy.
- The battle system is okay, good when dealing with monster at higher level if you know how to do Driver combos and Blade combos right. The fact that some arts you have to get HP potions can a bit of hassle when they don't fly to your place but far away, or even in a lake or water.
- Merc groups are cool but not really if some has huge requirements and a lot of time.
- Having collection points are fine but sometimes can also be a hassle too
- Affinity chart is also okay but I would also hope for skill trees to return if possible.
CONS
- Absence of armor customization... they could have implemented it in the game at least for the drivers...maybe I will get to understand why they don't add but this is probably the biggest flaw for this game.
- The game often has long loading time for a Switch game...
- The map doesn't blur out the areas you haven't reach actually isn't good, and the fact that when seeing the map won't directly show you where you are is also annoying but glad this will change.
- Unlike XC where you can still run around when choosing entering the menu, XC2 directly goes to the menu, this can be a hassle sometimes.... but oh well, it is what it is.
- In or to cancel lock on, you have to engage into attack and then cancel your attack is annoying whenever I accidentally press R and lock on a high level enemy.
- A character named Zeke... disappointed me a lot... his role in the game was pretty dumb and cliche...
So far these are my analysis I can think, tell me what do you guys think.