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[ChikoLad]

OK but for real we all know that the real reason Chrom is popular is that +Atk Brave Sword build in FE Heroes.

It's a thing of beauty.

 

[Erureido]

Since there's a whole discussion going on about Chrom, I think it is worth sharing one support conversation from FE: Warriors I really liked featuring him:

Several fans will argue that Chrom feels much more humanized in Warriors, and this support really shows that. I recommend checking it out.

 

[AmericanDJ]

I like Chrom. Like others have mentioned, I feel like his character is simple, but effective.
I also like his snarky and Only Sane Man traits as well.

Also, TIL that in FF7, Hojo was going to create to clones of Red XIII called Cobalt XIV and Indigo XV.
I kind of wonder if it's possible for these two clones to make an appearance in the remake whenever that is released.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

If there's one thing I can appreciate about Ribrianne, is that she's not a 1-dimensional character (imo).

All Ribrianne does is preach about love. The power of love, becoming the goddess of love, how love always prevails, etc. In fact, she talks about it so much that (to me) it comes off as a bit... insincere and dubious at best. She uses the concept of 'love' so much to basically justify wanting to become the personification of love itself as if she's trying to find something.

And to me, it sounds like her existence is quite... shallow, and that her idea of love is totally devoid of what 'true' love is, as seen when 18 overpowered her. Because of this I'd wager she's actually quite lonely, despite having close friends in the form of Rozie and Kakunsa.

In fact I'd say her whole reason for pursuing the Super Dragon Balls has 2 sides of the coin. She isn't only just wanting to get the wish because she's desperate to pursue/experience love in some genuine capacity (because she's never felt what it's like to truly love or be loved by someone else), but because she feels that no else should have the feeling of how hollow and empty she feels as a person; so if she becomes the goddess of love itself, she can let other people feel the love she hasn't, as to not to hit emotional rock bottom like she has been able to mask.

You might need to dig a little deep and apply a few headcanons to get to this conclusion, but that's just how I've interpreted her character.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

#TeamRobin

Same but #TeamMaleRobin

 

[Deleted member]

Male Robin>Female Robin
Female Corrin>Male Corrin
Though I think it's wrong to gender corn since it's a vegetable

Chrom too has what many would call an attractive design, especially taking into account how he has one arm exposed with well toned-muscles.

Too bad the FEH artist didn't get that note

OK but for real we all know that the real reason Chrom is popular is that +Atk Brave Sword build in FE Heroes.

It's a thing of beauty.

Brave Sword Chrom is the Virgin to Arden's Chad

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Male Robin>Female Robin
Female Corrin>Male Corrin
Though I think it's wrong to gender corn since it's a vegetable

I see no difference in the corrins. They are both ****ing stupid but I like the stupid male version more then the stupid female version

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

It'd be interesting if SoulCalibur came back. If we get Link AND a Fire Emblem character (no real preference, but maybe someone like Chrom, Ike, Lucina or Robin), I'd happily play it, even if that Patroklos jerk comes back. Because I can beat the hell out of him with ACTUALLY LIKABLE CHARACTERS.

The wait's going to be a bit long, but I should be able to cope with it until the official announcement of a SoulCalibur VI.

 

[Coricus]

Like Ivander and Shishoe said, Chrom being voiced by a popular VA and being the first lord for many fans that had Awakening as their first FE game are two major reasons. Chrom's also popular for similar reasons like Camilla, Tharja, and Xander are. Just like all three have attractive designs that lead to their popularity, Chrom too has what many would call an attractive design, especially taking into account how he has one arm exposed with well toned-muscles.

There are also people who find appeal in Chrom's character averageness as a character, and thus such people could be drawn to him because they like characters that feel more human with no over-the-top personalities. They might also like Chrom because he generally has solid support conversations aside from two (female Robin and Sumia).

Just a few ideas I can think of as to why Chrom is a popular character.



I think the better term to describe Chrom as the springboard to other characters is that he that he is a straight man.

While he may feel more normal and average compared to other characters. he still has his own distinct character. One of Chrom's main personality traits is that he can get emotional at times, to the point his emotions can influence his actions and make him aggressive because of it. He even gets his own character arc during the later chapters of the Plegia arc. For me, I actually found Chrom relatable in those chapters, particularly when it came to the struggles of not forgiving enemies yet remembering people close to me who would advise otherwise.

I actually liked the female Robin supports for taking me off guard, LOL. Thinking on it now it probably wasn't made in the best taste, but at least the embarrassment being palpable was funny as hell. Also spicy Robin going full force.

There's nothing really funny about the pie thing, though, eh.

I guess Chrom does have a nice voice. And make decent eye candy. Except the hair.

Straight man also works, I just tend to find those characters as unrelatable as others find them relatable. Different strokes explains a lot.

 

[Deleted member]

The Key Visual for MHA S3 got released and

Spoiler: manga spoilers

They sure know how to be real SUBTLE

Straight man also works, I just tend to find those characters as unrelatable as others find them relatable. Different strokes explains a lot.

I can't relate to straight men either
Wait, what do you mean this ism't what we are talking about?

 

[AreJay25]

Nice to see some good discussions about Google Chrom, it's my favorite internet browser.

 

[ChikoLad]

Brave Sword Chrom is the Virgin to Arden's Chad

But you can't +10 Arden.

 

[N3ON]

Chrom is a standard but effective character.

People like nice things and while Chrom isn't SUPER unique.

He's nice. That's all you need.



Don't have to knock people for liking him or assume they simply haven't experienced other games in the series.

Makes you look like a tool.

If there was somebody I could only really describe as "nice"... they wouldn't seem overly interesting to me...

I mean nice is a description when there's little else to work with, isn't it? Nice is a baseline. Especially for a protagonist. Kinda illustrates the hollowness of the character when that is the most apt descriptor.

If nice is all you need, you must have hundreds upon hundreds of characters. Mario is nice. Link is nice. Kirby is nice...


But I would think and hope people who do like Chrom can see this isn't a slight against them. I personally haven't knocked anyone other than Chrom, who is a fictional character.

It's not like Daisy supporters who as a rule are all crazy people.

 

[Opossum]

Attacked in my own thread. You'll all be sorry.

Nah but seriously it's all good. After I feed my kitties I'll write something up about why I like Chrom. I've been meaning to do something like that anyway so it's all good.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

f there was somebody I could only really describe as "nice"... they wouldn't seem overly interesting to me...

Not nice as a character trait. Nice as in an acceptably functioning character.

Chrom isn't actually the nicest guy out there and he has a lot more traits then just being nice.

 

[Ivander]

There's a difference between taking him safely to the capital and "I would lay down my life for you" which is what he's basically saying by chapter 2. That's my problem with their relationship.

And I was speaking more about the trusting a complete stranger bit. I didn't say that there wasn't a problem with "Two Chapters in, they're both Bros."

Also, another potential reason why people like Chrom might be because of this little snippet of his younger self talking to Emmeryn. As Chrom certainly wasn't a goody-two shoes as a kid.

 

[Deleted member]

But you can't +10 Arden.

>Implying Arden even needs +1
He has better HP and Def than a +10 Chrom, only thing he gets beaten is Atk(Spd and Res are dump stats so lol).
Also, Arden can actually quad :^)
Brash Assault Arden is THE meta

Alsoe also
>Better art
>More handsome
>Doesn't require sacrificing his allies to be useful
>Support his allies by boosting their defenses
>MUSCLE
>Loyal to Lord Sigurd
>Did I mention his beautiful face?
>Power of 0x4

Attacked in my own thread. You'll all be sorry.

Nah but seriously it's all good. After I feed my kitties I'll write something up about why I like Chrom. I've been meaning to do something like that anyway so it's all good.

New Thread title: "I came here to have a good time but honestly I feel so attacked right now"

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Attacked in my own thread. You'll all be sorry.

Nah but seriously it's all good. After I feed my kitties I'll write something up about why I like Chrom. I've been meaning to do something like that anyway so it's all good.

Oh.... You guys are in trouble...

Those aren't kitties he's feeding...


Those are death cats, he uses to purge the souls of those who have spited him.

Also to cuddle sometimes, but mostly spiting.

 

[Coricus]

Aay I don't mind the title at all.

Always loved playing in cardboard houses as a kid. :^)

. . .KIDDING, kidding. I always found people who got offended at the existence of characters ridiculous. Seems I'm just about due for a Chrobberin'.

 

[N3ON]

Not nice as a character trait. Nice as in an acceptably functioning character.

Chrom isn't actually the nicest guy out there and he has a lot more traits then just being nice.

Like, gameplay wise? Because otherwise an "acceptably functioning character" is an even lower bar than being "nice"...

And even then I'd say if all you need is a character who functions acceptably... you needn't be afraid to dream a little bigger...

It's like saying you support a character for Smash because, functionally, they could work.

 

[Coricus]

I didn't even know there WAS a trophy for 10,000 posts.

I guess I'm to the point where even Smashboards is attempting anti poop socking on me.

I would like to thank, um, everyone. You're all awesome.

Oh and Chrom I guess.

 

[Knight Dude]

I feel like the reveal of this My Hero Academia game will be something of a mixed bag. Like "it's an Arc System Works fighter! ...exclusively for the 3DS."

Admittedly, I wouldn't be mad at that one (based on ASW's Dragon Ball and One Piece 3DS games, the sprites would be fantastic), but I'd imagine that a lot of people would be.

I'd be fine with that too, but I feel like it'd lack english voices too.

Good news about that is that there'd be a ton of characters for M.U.G.E.N now, if Dragon Ball and One Pieces 3DS fighters were any indication. And yes, those sprites are next level.

 

[Ivander]

And even then I'd say if all you need is a character who functions acceptably... you needn't be afraid to dream a little bigger...

It's like saying you support a character for Smash because, functionally, they could work.

Dreaming bigger often leads to high hopes. And high hopes leads to hard disappointments. Sometimes just getting an average person is much better compared to getting one that tries to be hard-hitting, but hits like a wet noodle.

And considering what has come to Smash, any character can functionally work.

 

[Wario Bros.]

What's taking so long for the Switch release of Brawlout?

Not even a release date yet.

 

[Opossum]

So I figured I'd share my thoughts on Chrom, and why I like him so much as a character. It's understandable why some would find it odd: in a series that's driven by its characters, why cling to the one that's so seemingly...plain? Well, long story short, I think Chrom is far less plain than many give him credit for. Also as a fair warning, I'll be discussing some spoilers for Fire Emblem Awakening, as certain ones are integral to Chrom's growth as a character. Please keep that in mind.

First of all, I feel that how a character reacts to and changes because of a situation are great indicators of a good character, more so than just a list of personality traits. This is important to Chrom, as it is where I think his character truly shines.

As a bit of context, I'll first describe Chrom's early life, as it lays the foundation of his character early on. During his childhood, Chrom's father waged war against Ylisse's neighboring country, Plegia. His mother is implied to have died when he was very young, around the time Lissa was born. The war against Plegia only ended with the death of Chrom's warmongering father, and his older sister Emmeryn was made Ylisse's new Exalt. At first the citizens hated her, hurling both harsh words and harsher stones. Emmeryn never faltered, however, and eventually earned back the love of the people, mending the scars of the war their father started. Chrom comments that he would have never repaid their abuse with kindness, but recognizes that Emmeryn is a better person for it. As such, he decided that he'd be as great a leader as he could be.

This eventually led to Chrom forming the Shepherds, a group of soldiers acting as a sort of elite squadron of Ylisse's army, with Chrom serving as their commander. And this is where one aspect of Chrom's personality comes into place: Chrom is a "father to his men". He legitimately cares for each of the Shepherds and notices the areas in which they excel. Despite being royalty, he never lets that get in the way, as all are equal on the battlefield. For example, Vaike says exactly this in his support with Lissa.

Vaike:
I've dealt with a lot of fool ignorance since I joined the Shepherds. People are always askin' who I think I am, a commoner lording it up with princes. I've had it from lowborn and highborn alike. ...But never Chrom. It's like he doesn't care where I'm from, so long as I handle myself in a fight.

Another example of this can be seen in the Summer Scramble DLC, where Chrom has a conversation with Stahl. Chrom takes note of Stahl's performance in battle, mentioning how proud he is of how far he's come. Stahl, overjoyed, ends up working himself to near exhaustion in an attempt to live up to Chrom's praise. Chrom then stresses that he doesn't need to over-exert himself, as it would only lead to Stahl getting killed by the enemy. This reaffirms one of Chrom's biggest drives: to become a better man than his father was. Whereas his father conscripted untrained villagers to fight and die for him once his supply of soldiers was burned through, Chrom recognizes the value of the lives of all of Ylisse's people, including his soldiers. Chrom's father had his people fight for him, while Chrom himself fights alongside his people, knowing their limits and never pushing them too far.

One of Chrom's most informative support conversations, however, is his set of supports with (male) Robin. One facet of Chrom's character that often receives criticism, both in universe and in online discussions, is his incredibly trusting nature. Robin comments on this, stating that Chrom taking him in in his amnesiac state was a foolhardy move, as it could have been a massive security risk. Chrom simply replies that he can't change who he is, and that he saw a person in need and needed to help them. Later, Chrom is confronted by a mugger who flees upon seeing Chrom draw Falchion. Chastised by Robin once more, Chrom promises to take more precautions in the future...only for Robin to see that Chrom is taking two or so soldiers with him on patrol. Not satisfied with Chrom's menial attempt at safety, Robin confronts Chrom once more, leading to this exchange:

Chrom:
Look. I understand enemies could be lying in wait to try and kill me... But there could also be others who need my help! There's a war going on, and people are suffering. I can't ignore them. I won't.
Robin:
So why not send your men to search for these hapless innocents?!
Chrom:
Because.
Robin:
Becauuuse...?
Chrom:
Because...of you. If I hadn't been there—if Frederick alone had found you—would we have ever met?
Robin:
...Probably not.
Chrom:
You see? And it's not just you, Robin. It's everyone like you. I know going out there exposes me to danger, and I haven't always been careful. But it's a risk I'm willing to take in order to connect with the people. To forge bonds.
Robin:
Bonds? Between who?
Chrom:
You and me. Me and the others. The villagers we've met, the world we've seen... Such bonds are the true strength of this army. Without them, we're lost. Others may disagree, but that's one benefit of leadership: I make the final call.

Chrom views the strength of his army, and his country, as a measurement of the bonds he's created with the Shepherds. While this may at first seem like a cliché power of friendship moment, it fully illustrates the dramatic difference between Chrom and his father. His father used his people and his troops as lifeless pawns, simply means to ends, and himself as their ruler. Chrom views his people as his equals, and himself as their leader. One other thing to note is that Chrom instinctively trusted Robin despite the amnesiac being clad in Plegian robes, with Plegia being the country Ylisse has been at odds with for over a decade. Once again highlighting the difference between himself and his father, Chrom thought nothing of this. After all, a person is a person, borders be damned.

However, Chrom's devotion to his friends and family do end up coming at a great cost. During chapter five, King Gangrel of Plegia stages a kidnapping of Lady Maribelle, the daughter of the duke of Themis in an attempt to accuse Maribelle of illegally crossing over into Plegia. Emmeryn, Chrom, and the Shepherds offer parley in an attempt to reason with Gangrel, but Gangrel wishes to put Maribelle to death...unless Emmeryn were to hand over the Fire Emblem, Ylisse's national treasure, to him. Upon refusing, Gangrel threatens to pry it from Emmeryn's "cold, dead hands" and sends a single brigand to take the Emblem. Chrom instinctively kills the brigand with nary a second thought. It is in this moment that Chrom commits an act of war on Plegian soil, setting the stage for the rest of the game's events. Chrom didn't need to kill the brigand. Gangrel's threat was simply words, and a single brigand could be easily disarmed without killing him. He hadn't even attempted to strike at Emmeryn yet. But Chrom's love for his sister and his own impulsive nature singlehandedly led to a brutal campaign against Plegia. War had been declared, and it might have been avoided if Chrom had thought the situation through. Chrom is a flawed character, and because of his flaws, he must live with the fact that his actions had drastic consequences.

Eventually, Ylisse's campaign against Plegia comes to a head when Emmeryn is taken hostage by Gangrel's men to be publicly executed. In a race against time, Chrom, Robin, and the Shepherds book it to Plegia to save her. Once the battlefield is cleared, Chrom prepares to save his sister, only for an ambush to occur. Risen are summoned and shoot down the Ylissean Pegasus Knights with their arrows, eliminating Emmeryn's escape route from atop the spire. Gangrel gives Chrom an ultimatum: give up the Fire Emblem or have the Risen shoot down Emmeryn. Giving one last speech beforehand, Emmeryn spares Chrom of the sadistic choice and walks off the spire, committing suicide and preventing Chrom from giving up the Fire Emblem.

The next chapter ends with the Shepherds escaping a skirmish against Plegian forces, and upon entering the barracks once more, Robin takes it upon himself to reignite Chrom. Chrom sees himself as a failure for not preventing Emmeryn's death. He uses the word "powerless." He had no physical way of reaching her. For one time in his life, Chrom was forced to sit there and watch an atrocity transpire that he couldn't prevent. He watched as his older sister, his longtime guardian, fall to her death to spare him from a choice that would endanger Ylisse's people. Robin seeks to provide another viewpoint.

Robin:
I was powerless once too, remember? And yes, alone, I don't think either one of us is half the person your sister was. But together...maybe we can be something more. If you fall, I'll be there to pull you back up. When you fight for your sister's ideals, I'll be by your side. You don't have to become your sister, you know. You can still be true to yourself. You just have to give people hope in whatever way you can.
Chrom:
And what if I can't? What if I'm not worthy of her ideals? Robin, what if I drag you down with me?
Robin:
If you aren't worthy, you'll keep at it until you are. And if we both fall down, well, that's what friends are for, isn't it?

It's in this moment that the bond between Chrom and Robin is fully cemented, in my opinion. Chrom proclaims that he won't falter again, so long as he has the support of his tactician and his troops. And in Chrom's fated battle against Gangrel, Chrom prevails and Gangrel is slain. As the newly-crowned Exalt of Ylisse, Chrom married and had a daughter, Lucina, and vowed to bring Ylisse into an era of unparalleled peace.

Sadly, however, peace doesn't last long, as the Valmese from across the ocean have
launched warships toward Regna Ferox, Ylisse's closest political ally. Reluctantly, Chrom decides to aid Ferox in the war against Valm, as they are a threat to Ylisse as well.

The Valmese arc in Awakening is controversial, to say the least. Many fans say it was simply a filler segment. However, I disagree, as Chrom's conversations with Walhart do quite a bit to show how Chrom has grown as a leader and how he juxtaposes Walhart in his style of ruling.

During their confrontation in chapter twenty, Chrom's first reaction to facing Walhart is asking the Conqueror if he'd surrender, to which Walhart scoffs. The rest of their pre-battle conversation is as follows:


Chrom
:
It did not have to be this way... You believed in mankind's strength... So did my sister. You believe that we are masters of our destinies... So do I. You could have joined with us.


Walhart:

ME, JOIN YOU?! Does a pegasus join with the flea on its back? A dragon, with a cow it eats?! You forget your place, BOY. I am the Conqueror! I will unite the world!


Chrom
:
No! ...I will. And not by forcing all the people to choose the sword or the knee. Peace will only come by stoking people's hearts...not their fear.


Walhart
:
You think that's what you've done? What your sister did before you? No, she shouted some nonsense and leapt off a rock! Such weakness!


Chrom
:
Wrong. Not weakness—strength. That one act lives on, and WILL live on, longer than all your conquests...


Walhart
:
And longer than you will... Come then, flea, and die for your peace!


Chrom
:
Emm, I tried...

The weight of Emmeryn's legacy is clearly weighing on Chrom. His every action as Exalt was done with his sister in mind, as if to ask, "What would Emmeryn do?" In chapter six, he had told Robin that he would never be able to show compassion to those who did him harm, as Emmeryn did when her people turned against her. Here, however, he does just that. Walhart the Conqueror, a man who terrorized and subjugated an entire continent, fought Chrom's army with his own for the entirety of a brutal campaign, and threatened to take over Ylisse and Regna Ferox as well, was now facing off against Chrom directly. Chrom's first, instinctive reaction, however, is to ask if Walhart will stand down. And then when Chrom cannot reason with him, he reluctantly fights him, having unsuccessfully tried to use Emmeryn's own method of peace.

Until now I haven't touched too much on Chrom and Robin's relationship, despite it being a crucial component of Chrom's character. Throughout the game, Robin has acted as emotional support for Chrom. Chrom is prone to doubting himself, and Robin is always there to provide reassurance, as he did in the wake of Emmeryn's death. Likewise, Chrom places his full trust in Robin, both as commander and tactician, and two best friends. However, a revelation is uncovered. In the bad future that Lucina comes from, Robin is the one who took Chrom's life, impaling him with a hardened bolt of magic through the chest. Upon having this confirmed for her, Lucina draws her sword and prepares to kill Robin then and there, to save both her father and her future. Regardless of Robin letting her or not, Chrom comes in at the last minute to stop her, having heard every word, and reestablishes that nothing can shake his faith in Robin.


Chrom
:
Robin and I have held fast through good times and ill... We swore to be two halves of a greater whole. You underestimate the strength of those ties, the bonds we share. I believe in them more than some foretold "destiny."


Lucina
:
That is easier to say when you haven't seen it yourself...


Chrom
:
Lucina, aren't our ties stronger here now than they were in your future? You said so yourself. In this flow of time we are bound tighter than ever, you and I. Not just as father and daughter... But as friends. We can change things—we already have...and we will again.

Chrom is convinced that because things had already changed as a result of their actions, that the bad future is preventable, and his death at Robin's hand is far from guaranteed. In spite of his trust in others not always working out, such as when the Hierophant betrayed the royal family early on, Chrom clings to his ideals. To him, they are worth fighting for, especially when his best friend depends on them. That being said, despite being trusting, Chrom is far from naïve and stupid. He recognizes that Plegia's invitation for parley will likely not end entirely hospitably. He doesn't go to Plegia without him and his men being armed. This is a big part of Chrom's character that often gets mixed up by those online. Idealism is not the same as naivety or stupidity. Chrom holds true to his core beliefs and recognizes the danger associated with them, but should he feel the need to, he will take precautions.

So in short, Chrom is a man who struggled to fight against the legacy of his warmonger father while trying to more closely emulate the ruling style of his older sister Emmeryn. He is a father to his men, and is capable and strong, if a bit reckless. Chrom acts almost solely on instinct and will defend those he cares about to the ends of the earth, and will help someone in need no matter the danger it may pose to himself. Chrom is also plagued with self-doubt, which only worsens after Emmeryn's death, until Robin's friendship breaks him of it, and the two become two halves of a greater whole.

He's also a total dork who stared slack-jawed at (his future wife) Sumia when she saved him from being turned into a pincushion, has an awesome design and color scheme, has a great voice, has an awesome sword when fully upgraded to the Exalted Falchion, and can use lances, but those are more superficial reasons why I like him, to say the least.

So yeah, this probably got less and less coherent as it went on, and I just kinda word-vomited an essay at a pretty late hour of the night, so hopefully any sloppiness can be excused. But yeah, that's why I like Chrom (with story context). I probably forgot to mention a myriad of things, but hey, it's late. Congrats for making it to this part of the post, by the way.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I need to get a better RPG maker than OHRPGCE

Everything has to be saved in 16 color bitmap and apparently even if I'm using less than 16 colors it just makes everything grey

 

[mario123007]

Catholic church releases their undeniable evidence of God's existence

Also I check the newest Made In Abyss Manga...

Spoiler

Oh no... I don't think Nanachi is gonna survive....

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Remember to get free stuff for tomorrow.



Also. WOAH!!

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 English Voice Acting is on point.

 

[mario123007]

Also. WOAH!!

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 English Voice Acting is on point.

"watching only half of the trailer..." rest I will keep it until I got the game.
Um... To be frank, now I kind of feel the English voice over isn't that good... I expect Pyra sound more mature but she and Nia kind of sound like a middle aged woman...
I guess I have to play the game to see if it still fits or not.
Not to mention with this soundtrack

Can't believe this music is going to be in Xenoblade 2!
And my most anticipated game is actually the last Nintendo title to release this year, man what a wait...

 

[Deleted member]

but that's more because I like the flavor of white bread.

Childhood memories of eating Wonder Bread by itself as a snack flooding back....

 

[ChikoLad]

It's like saying you support a character for Smash because, functionally, they could work.

You say this hypothetically but I see so many people who do this.

Smash has lost its status as "magical crossover where getting your favourite character is amazing and all anyone wants from the roster". Now it's like a political or economic thing or something. Half of the time, people rally for a character to be in Smash just because they could functionally work (which is technically any character), or because they're popular and would drive sales, and therefore would "make sense".

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Dreaming bigger often leads to high hopes. And high hopes leads to hard disappointments. Sometimes just getting an average person is much better compared to getting one that tries to be hard-hitting, but hits like a wet noodle.

And considering what has come to Smash, any character can functionally work.

Any character being able to functionally work is exactly why you should dream a little bigger...

You say this hypothetically but I see so many people who do this.

Smash has lost its status as "magical crossover where getting your favourite character is amazing and all anyone wants from the roster". Now it's like a political or economic thing or something. Half of the time, people rally for a character to be in Smash just because they could functionally work (which is technically any character), or because they're popular and would drive sales, and therefore would "make sense".

I never understood support for something for the sake of it just being possible. That's like striving for mediocrity

Dreaming to work at McDonald's when you grow up.


I'm rooting for Geno, dammit, and we got a friggin' costume in the game for that

 

[powerprotoman]

i dont know why but i get rhe feeling camilla will be the fire emblem rep in soul calibuyr 6 if that "leak" is true

i mean the reason is probobly very ivyous- i mean obvious but its breas-i mean best not to think about it

the levels of faking freudian slips to go through to make a joke that camilla will get in purely based on her bust is too much

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So I figured I'd share my thoughts on Chrom, and why I like him so much as a character. It's understandable why some would find it odd: in a series that's driven by its characters, why cling to the one that's so seemingly...plain? Well, long story short, I think Chrom is far less plain than many give him credit for. Also as a fair warning, I'll be discussing some spoilers for Fire Emblem Awakening, as certain ones are integral to Chrom's growth as a character. Please keep that in mind.

First of all, I feel that how a character reacts to and changes because of a situation are great indicators of a good character, more so than just a list of personality traits. This is important to Chrom, as it is where I think his character truly shines.

As a bit of context, I'll first describe Chrom's early life, as it lays the foundation of his character early on. During his childhood, Chrom's father waged war against Ylisse's neighboring country, Plegia. His mother is implied to have died when he was very young, around the time Lissa was born. The war against Plegia only ended with the death of Chrom's warmongering father, and his older sister Emmeryn was made Ylisse's new Exalt. At first the citizens hated her, hurling both harsh words and harsher stones. Emmeryn never faltered, however, and eventually earned back the love of the people, mending the scars of the war their father started. Chrom comments that he would have never repaid their abuse with kindness, but recognizes that Emmeryn is a better person for it. As such, he decided that he'd be as great a leader as he could be.

This eventually led to Chrom forming the Shepherds, a group of soldiers acting as a sort of elite squadron of Ylisse's army, with Chrom serving as their commander. And this is where one aspect of Chrom's personality comes into place: Chrom is a "father to his men". He legitimately cares for each of the Shepherds and notices the areas in which they excel. Despite being royalty, he never lets that get in the way, as all are equal on the battlefield. For example, Vaike says exactly this in his support with Lissa.

Vaike:
I've dealt with a lot of fool ignorance since I joined the Shepherds. People are always askin' who I think I am, a commoner lording it up with princes. I've had it from lowborn and highborn alike. ...But never Chrom. It's like he doesn't care where I'm from, so long as I handle myself in a fight.

Another example of this can be seen in the Summer Scramble DLC, where Chrom has a conversation with Stahl. Chrom takes note of Stahl's performance in battle, mentioning how proud he is of how far he's come. Stahl, overjoyed, ends up working himself to near exhaustion in an attempt to live up to Chrom's praise. Chrom then stresses that he doesn't need to over-exert himself, as it would only lead to Stahl getting killed by the enemy. This reaffirms one of Chrom's biggest drives: to become a better man than his father was. Whereas his father conscripted untrained villagers to fight and die for him once his supply of soldiers was burned through, Chrom recognizes the value of the lives of all of Ylisse's people, including his soldiers. Chrom's father had his people fight for him, while Chrom himself fights alongside his people, knowing their limits and never pushing them too far.

One of Chrom's most informative support conversations, however, is his set of supports with (male) Robin. One facet of Chrom's character that often receives criticism, both in universe and in online discussions, is his incredibly trusting nature. Robin comments on this, stating that Chrom taking him in in his amnesiac state was a foolhardy move, as it could have been a massive security risk. Chrom simply replies that he can't change who he is, and that he saw a person in need and needed to help them. Later, Chrom is confronted by a mugger who flees upon seeing Chrom draw Falchion. Chastised by Robin once more, Chrom promises to take more precautions in the future...only for Robin to see that Chrom is taking two or so soldiers with him on patrol. Not satisfied with Chrom's menial attempt at safety, Robin confronts Chrom once more, leading to this exchange:

Chrom:
Look. I understand enemies could be lying in wait to try and kill me... But there could also be others who need my help! There's a war going on, and people are suffering. I can't ignore them. I won't.
Robin:
So why not send your men to search for these hapless innocents?!
Chrom:
Because.
Robin:
Becauuuse...?
Chrom:
Because...of you. If I hadn't been there—if Frederick alone had found you—would we have ever met?
Robin:
...Probably not.
Chrom:
You see? And it's not just you, Robin. It's everyone like you. I know going out there exposes me to danger, and I haven't always been careful. But it's a risk I'm willing to take in order to connect with the people. To forge bonds.
Robin:
Bonds? Between who?
Chrom:
You and me. Me and the others. The villagers we've met, the world we've seen... Such bonds are the true strength of this army. Without them, we're lost. Others may disagree, but that's one benefit of leadership: I make the final call.

Chrom views the strength of his army, and his country, as a measurement of the bonds he's created with the Shepherds. While this may at first seem like a cliché power of friendship moment, it fully illustrates the dramatic difference between Chrom and his father. His father used his people and his troops as lifeless pawns, simply means to ends, and himself as their ruler. Chrom views his people as his equals, and himself as their leader. One other thing to note is that Chrom instinctively trusted Robin despite the amnesiac being clad in Plegian robes, with Plegia being the country Ylisse has been at odds with for over a decade. Once again highlighting the difference between himself and his father, Chrom thought nothing of this. After all, a person is a person, borders be damned.

However, Chrom's devotion to his friends and family do end up coming at a great cost. During chapter five, King Gangrel of Plegia stages a kidnapping of Lady Maribelle, the daughter of the duke of Themis in an attempt to accuse Maribelle of illegally crossing over into Plegia. Emmeryn, Chrom, and the Shepherds offer parley in an attempt to reason with Gangrel, but Gangrel wishes to put Maribelle to death...unless Emmeryn were to hand over the Fire Emblem, Ylisse's national treasure, to him. Upon refusing, Gangrel threatens to pry it from Emmeryn's "cold, dead hands" and sends a single brigand to take the Emblem. Chrom instinctively kills the brigand with nary a second thought. It is in this moment that Chrom commits an act of war on Plegian soil, setting the stage for the rest of the game's events. Chrom didn't need to kill the brigand. Gangrel's threat was simply words, and a single brigand could be easily disarmed without killing him. He hadn't even attempted to strike at Emmeryn yet. But Chrom's love for his sister and his own impulsive nature singlehandedly led to a brutal campaign against Plegia. War had been declared, and it might have been avoided if Chrom had thought the situation through. Chrom is a flawed character, and because of his flaws, he must live with the fact that his actions had drastic consequences.

Eventually, Ylisse's campaign against Plegia comes to a head when Emmeryn is taken hostage by Gangrel's men to be publicly executed. In a race against time, Chrom, Robin, and the Shepherds book it to Plegia to save her. Once the battlefield is cleared, Chrom prepares to save his sister, only for an ambush to occur. Risen are summoned and shoot down the Ylissean Pegasus Knights with their arrows, eliminating Emmeryn's escape route from atop the spire. Gangrel gives Chrom an ultimatum: give up the Fire Emblem or have the Risen shoot down Emmeryn. Giving one last speech beforehand, Emmeryn spares Chrom of the sadistic choice and walks off the spire, committing suicide and preventing Chrom from giving up the Fire Emblem.

The next chapter ends with the Shepherds escaping a skirmish against Plegian forces, and upon entering the barracks once more, Robin takes it upon himself to reignite Chrom. Chrom sees himself as a failure for not preventing Emmeryn's death. He uses the word "powerless." He had no physical way of reaching her. For one time in his life, Chrom was forced to sit there and watch an atrocity transpire that he couldn't prevent. He watched as his older sister, his longtime guardian, fall to her death to spare him from a choice that would endanger Ylisse's people. Robin seeks to provide another viewpoint.

Robin:
I was powerless once too, remember? And yes, alone, I don't think either one of us is half the person your sister was. But together...maybe we can be something more. If you fall, I'll be there to pull you back up. When you fight for your sister's ideals, I'll be by your side. You don't have to become your sister, you know. You can still be true to yourself. You just have to give people hope in whatever way you can.
Chrom:
And what if I can't? What if I'm not worthy of her ideals? Robin, what if I drag you down with me?
Robin:
If you aren't worthy, you'll keep at it until you are. And if we both fall down, well, that's what friends are for, isn't it?

It's in this moment that the bond between Chrom and Robin is fully cemented, in my opinion. Chrom proclaims that he won't falter again, so long as he has the support of his tactician and his troops. And in Chrom's fated battle against Gangrel, Chrom prevails and Gangrel is slain. As the newly-crowned Exalt of Ylisse, Chrom married and had a daughter, Lucina, and vowed to bring Ylisse into an era of unparalleled peace.

Sadly, however, peace doesn't last long, as the Valmese from across the ocean have
launched warships toward Regna Ferox, Ylisse's closest political ally. Reluctantly, Chrom decides to aid Ferox in the war against Valm, as they are a threat to Ylisse as well.

The Valmese arc in Awakening is controversial, to say the least. Many fans say it was simply a filler segment. However, I disagree, as Chrom's conversations with Walhart do quite a bit to show how Chrom has grown as a leader and how he juxtaposes Walhart in his style of ruling.

During their confrontation in chapter twenty, Chrom's first reaction to facing Walhart is asking the Conqueror if he'd surrender, to which Walhart scoffs. The rest of their pre-battle conversation is as follows:


Chrom
:
It did not have to be this way... You believed in mankind's strength... So did my sister. You believe that we are masters of our destinies... So do I. You could have joined with us.


Walhart:

ME, JOIN YOU?! Does a pegasus join with the flea on its back? A dragon, with a cow it eats?! You forget your place, BOY. I am the Conqueror! I will unite the world!


Chrom
:
No! ...I will. And not by forcing all the people to choose the sword or the knee. Peace will only come by stoking people's hearts...not their fear.


Walhart
:
You think that's what you've done? What your sister did before you? No, she shouted some nonsense and leapt off a rock! Such weakness!


Chrom
:
Wrong. Not weakness—strength. That one act lives on, and WILL live on, longer than all your conquests...


Walhart
:
And longer than you will... Come then, flea, and die for your peace!


Chrom
:
Emm, I tried...

The weight of Emmeryn's legacy is clearly weighing on Chrom. His every action as Exalt was done with his sister in mind, as if to ask, "What would Emmeryn do?" In chapter six, he had told Robin that he would never be able to show compassion to those who did him harm, as Emmeryn did when her people turned against her. Here, however, he does just that. Walhart the Conqueror, a man who terrorized and subjugated an entire continent, fought Chrom's army with his own for the entirety of a brutal campaign, and threatened to take over Ylisse and Regna Ferox as well, was now facing off against Chrom directly. Chrom's first, instinctive reaction, however, is to ask if Walhart will stand down. And then when Chrom cannot reason with him, he reluctantly fights him, having unsuccessfully tried to use Emmeryn's own method of peace.

Until now I haven't touched too much on Chrom and Robin's relationship, despite it being a crucial component of Chrom's character. Throughout the game, Robin has acted as emotional support for Chrom. Chrom is prone to doubting himself, and Robin is always there to provide reassurance, as he did in the wake of Emmeryn's death. Likewise, Chrom places his full trust in Robin, both as commander and tactician, and two best friends. However, a revelation is uncovered. In the bad future that Lucina comes from, Robin is the one who took Chrom's life, impaling him with a hardened bolt of magic through the chest. Upon having this confirmed for her, Lucina draws her sword and prepares to kill Robin then and there, to save both her father and her future. Regardless of Robin letting her or not, Chrom comes in at the last minute to stop her, having heard every word, and reestablishes that nothing can shake his faith in Robin.


Chrom
:
Robin and I have held fast through good times and ill... We swore to be two halves of a greater whole. You underestimate the strength of those ties, the bonds we share. I believe in them more than some foretold "destiny."


Lucina
:
That is easier to say when you haven't seen it yourself...


Chrom
:
Lucina, aren't our ties stronger here now than they were in your future? You said so yourself. In this flow of time we are bound tighter than ever, you and I. Not just as father and daughter... But as friends. We can change things—we already have...and we will again.

Chrom is convinced that because things had already changed as a result of their actions, that the bad future is preventable, and his death at Robin's hand is far from guaranteed. In spite of his trust in others not always working out, such as when the Hierophant betrayed the royal family early on, Chrom clings to his ideals. To him, they are worth fighting for, especially when his best friend depends on them. That being said, despite being trusting, Chrom is far from naïve and stupid. He recognizes that Plegia's invitation for parley will likely not end entirely hospitably. He doesn't go to Plegia without him and his men being armed. This is a big part of Chrom's character that often gets mixed up by those online. Idealism is not the same as naivety or stupidity. Chrom holds true to his core beliefs and recognizes the danger associated with them, but should he feel the need to, he will take precautions.

So in short, Chrom is a man who struggled to fight against the legacy of his warmonger father while trying to more closely emulate the ruling style of his older sister Emmeryn. He is a father to his men, and is capable and strong, if a bit reckless. Chrom acts almost solely on instinct and will defend those he cares about to the ends of the earth, and will help someone in need no matter the danger it may pose to himself. Chrom is also plagued with self-doubt, which only worsens after Emmeryn's death, until Robin's friendship breaks him of it, and the two become two halves of a greater whole.

He's also a total dork who stared slack-jawed at (his future wife) Sumia when she saved him from being turned into a pincushion, has an awesome design and color scheme, has a great voice, has an awesome sword when fully upgraded to the Exalted Falchion, and can use lances, but those are more superficial reasons why I like him, to say the least.

So yeah, this probably got less and less coherent as it went on, and I just kinda word-vomited an essay at a pretty late hour of the night, so hopefully any sloppiness can be excused. But yeah, that's why I like Chrom (with story context). I probably forgot to mention a myriad of things, but hey, it's late. Congrats for making it to this part of the post, by the way.

Most people in the thread are gonna be like

In all seriousness, DAMN good read


WAAAAAARCHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMP!

 

[Deleted member]

I kinda hope I get some spare Fjorms from the 8% banner because
>Atk/Def Bond
>Shield Pulse
>Drive Atk
I'll build the neutral one you get for free but damn those skills are just too tempting, especially for someone like Joshua who would make great use of Shield Pulse.
Though I'm more interested in getting Spd Ploy and Hector merges from it.
Or maybe ****ing nothing with how ****ty my luck has been recently
More than 200 Orbs and no Lute

Most people in the thread are gonna be like

In all seriousness, DAMN good read


WAAAAAARCHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMP!

@Warchamp7 wants people to actually read Opo's post :^)

 

[Aurane]

Everything's Chrom in the future!

 

[praline]

Hey Resident Evil Revelations 1 & 2 are out tomorrow for the Switch.

I should probably not buy them until after Christmas.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I kinda hope I get some spare Fjorms from the 8% banner because
>Atk/Def Bond
>Shield Pulse
>Drive Atk
I'll build the neutral one you get for free but damn those skills are just too tempting, especially for someone like Joshua who would make great use of Shield Pulse.
Though I'm more interested in getting Spd Ploy and Hector merges from it.
Or maybe ****ing nothing with how ****ty my luck has been recently
More than 200 Orbs and no Lute

@Warchamp7 wants people to actually read Opo's post :^)

Yeah I'm not relying on my luck any longer.
I've put 80 + every orb I earned this month in the Halloween banner with nothing to show for.
My goal in this game will be to pick one unit and turn it into a merged monster with multiple builds.
I'm still debating if I'd pull for the Legendary Hero Fest to get Heavy Blade Cherche going

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah I'm not relying on my luck any longer.
I've put 80 + every orb I earned this month in the Halloween banner with nothing to show for.
My goal in this game will be to pick one unit and turn it into a merged monster with multiple builds.
I'm still debating if I'd pull for the Legendary Hero Fest to get Heavy Blade Cherche going

The worst part is that Children of Fate comes out next week and there's a chance I'll be wanting to pull from that, ugh
I'll probably only do one full summon in the 8% banner(taking advantage of the free summon because I only have 18 Orbs currently) and save all the Orbs from the new chapters until we find out who the units in the new banner are

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I kinda wish Fire emblem warrios gave me Male corrin in story mode rather then female corrin. I dont want her at all. But I was so close to beating ryoma and then him amd all the ****ing siblings bum rushed the allied base

Thats why Im glad they gave mr Male Robin in story, i dont care for the girl version