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Robert of Normandy

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At the end of the day, I think people shouldn't be so concerned about review scores. One of my best friends uses them to determine his game purchases and while it's something I can get in his case, we still sometimes have little debates about the subject...

...However, I would be lying if I didn't say I think many triple AAA game publishers pay certain big review sites to give a positive review, and I definitely do think Nintendo does do this with their more major titles like Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey. For one, we know for a fact that the "Nintendo Ambassador's Program" exists (I think that was the name of it anyway, it's been a while since I've read anything about it). So, many of the YouTube content creators who give rave reviews to these games are pretty much obligated to not say anything particularly negative. We saw what happened with both TheBitBlock and Haedox, for example, when they got harshly critical of Nintendo's games and their practices. Both were on that Ambassador Program and were taken off it for not being 99% positive about Nintendo at all times. I know it's not the nicest way to put it, but when it comes to people on the Nintendo Ambassador's Program, being a Nintendo shill is basically a part-time job for them. They don't get paid in money by Nintendo, I know, but they get free Nintendo products basically every week, which is a large amount of merchandise/games they would otherwise have to spend lots of money on. Plus it benefits their channel and increases their revenue that way, since people will obviously be looking for videos about the big new Nintendo game.

When it comes to IGN and GameSpot and other big AAA game journalism companies, I mean there's really no question that some developers pay them. They are just as much multimedia marketing companies (especially IGN) as they are game journalism outlets (at times they feel more like the former than anything). And there is no reason for Nintendo or any other company to not pay them to review their games. It generates more excitement.

I'm not saying that BotW and SMO don't deserve lots of praise (I've poured over 200 hours into BotW myself - it has many flaws but I still love it), and that any review ever that gives games like these a 10/10 should be immediately disregarded. But review scores literally only exist to be marketing tools anyway, for both the reviewer (gets them on Metacritic, on the trailer or box art for a big new game, etc) and the publisher (generates more hype, sells the game to those who rely on good reviews to make purchases, etc). And a 10/10 score is more marketable than any other score.

This is why I ignore review scores entirely. I read the actual review if I have to look at reviews. Usually, how I tell a reviewer was paid to write a positive review is when, after I play the game, I look at the reviews, and see if there was a major part of the game reviewers didn't talk about. Using Breath of the Wild as an example, a lot of reviewers barely touched upon the story. I'm not even saying they unreasonably praised it or anything, they just...didn't really talk about it. Which was odd. Normally they do in a game like this, since it should be a pretty important part of the game (and in BotW's case, it was built up to be by Nintendo themselves).

Of course, I then played the game, saw how generally poorly handled the story was in the game, and thought "oh, that's why". Their 10/10 scores would not have made sense if they had discussed the story and how poorly handled it was. So there's a good chance they were paid. General vagueness and reading like an advertisement and not a review, are other big indicators.
I don't think there's really any need to jump to assuming that game companies outright pay major reviewers to keep scores from being too low. Most big review sites are already dependent on game companies for most of what they need to do their jobs, so it's not surprising they wouldn't want to rock the boat too much. There's reviewer copies of course, but also invitations to promotional events, interviews, "first looks," and a whole bunch of other stuff audiences for that site probably demand.

And then there's the potential audience blowback. Look at how badly people react to games "merely" being given an 8 or 9 out of 10. For big sites that are dependent on audience traffic, not upsetting their target audience by being too harsh on a ggame is probably a major concern.

But that's just me, what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I don't think there's really any need to jump to assuming that game companies outright pay major reviewers to keep scores from being too low. Most big review sites are already dependent on game companies for most of what they need to do their jobs, so it's not surprising they wouldn't want to rock the boat too much. There's reviewer copies of course, but also invitations to promotional events, interviews, "first looks," and a whole bunch of other stuff audiences for that site probably demand.

And then there's the potential audience blowback. Look at how badly people react to games "merely" being given an 8 or 9 out of 10. For big sites that are dependent on audience traffic, not upsetting their target audience by being too harsh on a ggame is probably a major concern.

But that's just me, what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Those points are all true as well.

I wasn't saying paid reviews are the only incentive for journalists to award games with a high score/favourable review. Especially since of course when there are journalists, like GameXplain, who seem to be completely genuine and have their unconventional review system to back that up. I was mostly discussing that specific one since it was brought up.
 

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The character they called "Old Man Nikolai" isn't much older than I am

They got a weird sense of age in Japan

N-NANI?!?

What does it all mean?!
I posted about how certain characters were going to

fuse a couple days ago

It's the new big character they are revealing
 
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In other news review scores are still dumb.

People are making a fuss at ProJared giving SMO an 8/10 (which is a very good score, mind you). You got the crowd praising him for being "honest", because apparently giving the game a 10/10, 5/4, 6/5 and so on means you're a shill and your opinion is automatically invalid. Then there's the crowd accusing him of being contrarian, despite 8/10 being extremely good.

Like, damn. This happened with BOTW too. Everyone's scores and ratings are subjective and personal. Yeah, there's usually a consensus, but that doesn't mean some guy's review or score is more valid than the other just because they went against the consensus (which shouldn't even apply here because 8/10, once again, is still a very high score).
I don't think anyone even watched ProJared's review if they believe that 8/10 was unjust. All of his criticisms are valid(assuming he was being hinest about them but I have no reason to believe ProJared would lie about them). People need to stop looking at scores without context.
 

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I just did the PEGI training as part of my online training for my job.

"If you sell an 18+ game to a customer who turns out to be under 18, you can face a serious disciplinary action including dismissal, a €10,000 fine, and 6 months imprisonment".

Not that I would have any intention of selling an 18+ game to someone clearly underage, but that's more than a little extreme.
This reminds me 3 months ago when I was in my local game store the store owner sell the Nier Automata PS4 bundle to a lady and her kid who was obviously 13 or 14... she ask if that game is safe to play, the owner said there isn't any much gory stuff in the game only slashing robots... and he later said it really depends on your supervision...
Kind of odd he didn't talk about the main character is also a robot to a certain extent...
 

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You can sell a game to the parent of a 13 year old, just not the actual 13 year old

It's similar to if you sell beer to a minor.

You can face jail time or a fine for selling beer to a minor
 

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I've done so many time loops I'm 98 in chapter 5

By many I mean twice before I figured out what to do

Although I thought I had to do it before just never tried
 
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You can sell a game to the parent of a 13 year old, just not the actual 13 year old

It's similar to if you sell beer to a minor.

You can face jail time or a fine for selling beer to a minor
Nevertheless it will be likely but also a shame that the parent might not really care what game their children plays... but you still have a point.

I also found this Xenoblade Chronicles 2 rare Blades VA chart

Now it kind of make sense why Finch is my favorite Blade so far.

Also Hotaru having same voice VA as the main character in Magi... there's a 1/3 chance it's a trap...
 
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Just finished Odyssey.
Holy crap it was awesome.
And it keeps getting more awesome.
 

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Did you guys find the secret Waluigi statue with a leaf covering his junk?

Cause I heard some copies of the game got shipped without it.
 

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Did you guys find the secret Waluigi statue with a leaf covering his junk?

Cause I heard some copies of the game got shipped without it.
Without the statue, without the leaf, or without his junk?
 

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Nevertheless it will be likely but also a shame that the parent might not really care what game their children plays... but you still have a point.

I also found this Xenoblade Chronicles 2 rare Blades VA chart

Now it kind of make sense why Finch is my favorite Blade so far.

Also Hotaru having same voice VA as the main character in Magi... there's a 1/3 chance it's a trap...
Tokiha has the same VA as Ryuko and Sailor Jupiter?

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH PYRA, NOW TOKIHA IS MY BEST FRIEND
 

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Tokiha has the same VA as Ryuko and Sailor Jupiter?

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH PYRA, NOW TOKIHA IS MY BEST FRIEND
I thought that not much people liked Pyra and argue that her cloths were "too revealing"... like yeah the original Xenoblade doesn't any revealing cloths... when it's ESRB rating mentions "partial nudity"....

Ok I am off topic a bit, yeah, so you have some research, most of these VA actually have played even more roles.

Also this video from the official Nintendo EU channel showed/leaked Hikari (We've seen her in the first and second trailer) is also going to be a usable Blade... but for Rex I suppose.

 
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Me, waiting for Christmas to get a Switch, Vs. those who're actually playing to Mario Odyssey:

 

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so as of right now ive gotten every moon possible on your first visit minus 2 (am currently doing the food kingdom)
both involve the number 100

now if youll excuse me if i dont go to sleep right now i might just start playing more odyssey
 

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>wakes up, looks through Internet things on my phone like Twitter as normal, absent mindedly open YouTube mobile like always
>"SONIC FORCES FINAL BOSS LEAK" "SONIC FORCES ENDING" "SONIC FORCES SHADOW CUTSCENE"

IT'S LIKE A MINEFIELD

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Why did no one tell me RWBY Vol.5 had started? There are already 2 episodes on Youtibe already.
I never tought still-frames would be more off-putting than actuak ****ing CG.
The animation and art keep getting better with each volume though.

The first episode was good, I just fear I'm forgetting anything important from Vol.4. Probably everything lol because I had no idea what Blake was talking about

>Mercury fighting Yang in the OP
THIS BETTER NOT BE ANOTHER GODDAMN FAKEOUT BECAUSE I SWEAR TO GOD
>No Neo in the OP
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I'm reading my digital copy of my Staff Handbook and in the section outlining what constitutes as Gross Misconduct, there is a photo of two people dressed in mascot costumes as Michelangelo and Donatello from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They don't seem to be doing anything strange either.

I'm very confused.
 
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After catching up on Mother's Basement I realized he recommended something toku related

Watch Kamen Rider @Shishœ
I'm pretty sure you're secretely Geoff in disguise because you both have ****taste and I dunno, I don't know anyone else in tge whole world with that and I don't think it's a coincidence
 

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As much as some people complain about the Support system in newer Fire Emblem games, we wouldn't get comedy gold like this if it wasn't around.


You know you would do this too at least once if ever given the opportunity.
 
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Reminder Mario Odyssey is looking good
https://onetwoweebculture.tumblr.com/post/166898152016/unmute
As much as some people complain about the Support system in newer Fire Emblem games, we wouldn't get comedy gold like this if it wasn't around.


You know you would do this too at least once if ever given the opportunity.
>Not supporting Sigurd and Arvis
He recommended toku though! Sure, it's Garo and I haven't seen it but watch toku nerd
No
 

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Just finished the Odyssey main story.

Not gonna spoil it for anyone but this honestly might be the best 3D Mario yet. It's incredible.
 

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@Zebei here's someone who wants to hire you for your new job
No I don't want him, I want you.

EDIT: NOT AS A PROSTITUTE.

Holy crap I forgot about that post. I don't want sex. The hells the matter with you.


EDIT2: That doesn't mean I'm denying you Zebs, but I have standards and I believe hiring a Smashboards mod as a prostitute would go against my standards. I mean I'll snuggle but I won't go any further you know?

Unless, you know, you honk first, then maybe I'll honk back but we aren't driving so I'll just leave this entire cluster **** alone.
 
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