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[Mythra]

Me: "Pyra is the hottest character of this Direct"
Mario: "Hold my Moons"

 

[A Distant Demon]

It's really painful seeing Ridley fans getting their hopes over an off hand marketing buzzword.

Ya'll only hurt yourselves sometimes I swear.

Pain is the only thing we understand anymore


Im still sitting at negative 10% of ever happening

 

[Opossum]

Not to mention Alm's not shown. Why would you expect us to believe that Celica is playable in the game but Alm's not? That's completely bogus.

Azura isn't playable. Alm not being there doesn't debunk it just because it's something you don't like. That's getting into the "roster is fake because no Ridley or K. Rool" territory.

 

[Deleted member]

People are trying way too hard to make it look like the Ridley tease was anything but a Ridley tease.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I don't think it's worth throwing out yet, basically. Actually having non-SD/Awakening/Fates in the base game is already an eye opener. I don't think they'd show it if it WAS the European box art, so the other one could just be a cover up.

Celica's sprite is the only oddity. Either way we'll know for sure by Tokyo Game Show since they're doing reveals there.

Think about it, Opossum! Why would they have Celica in the game without Alm.

Spoiler: Here's the answer

THEY WOULDN'T. They're both too important to Echoes for one but not the other to be in.

 

[Ivander]

You know Lyn's awesome, don't get me wrong, I have to ask why she is the only exception though. Like, they say they're gonna stick to 3 games and they have but an exception is made for Lyn. BUT they said they didn't want to add the protagonist's from other games because they didn't want too many sword users. The game they chose has three protagonist's, one of them an axe user, but they still go with a sword user.

I'm glad they are going into different games for characters, still salty about no Hector or Ike, or even Roy, though.

Some translators said it was "only", but some others also said it was "mostly". Looks like it turned out to be "mostly."

Also,

https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/fe/
This, IS IN FACT, Lyn's sprite for Fire Emblem Warriors, from the official Koei site. It's identical to the one on the boxart. Also, Caeda was stealth confirmed.

 

[N3ON]

DeeeeElllllSeeeee

for all your missing character needs

 

[Tree Gelbman]

People are trying way too hard to make it look like the Ridley tease was anything but a Ridley tease.

A Ridley tease for Metroid: Samus Returns.

That's it.

 

[A Distant Demon]

CAEDA AND NAVARRE CONFIRMED (to appear. maybe playable. maybe not. I assume yes)

head to 1:20 and look near Marth and the fem OC

 

[Yellowlord]

So... I guess that means we'll need to wait until E3 2018 for Smash then, huh? I don't mind, I suppose.

I will admit; while I understand the message behind trying to get all sorts of fans in on Metroid: Samus Returns with that Smash Bros. mention, I am sure a lot of people are not going be happy about this for a while. Me, I'm neutral and don't really plan on getting upset over the unintended teaser, but yeah.

 

[Mythra]

Even without Smash confirmed, we're gonna fall into Speculation Hell.

GG Nintendo.

 

[Deleted member]

Think about it, Opossum! Why would they have Celica in the game without Alm.

Spoiler: Here's the answer

THEY WOULDN'T. They're both too important to Echoes for one but not the other to be in.

Have you ever played Blazing Sword?

Some translators said it was "only", but some others also said it was "mostly". Looks like it turned out to be "mostly."

Also,

https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/fe/
This, IS IN FACT, Lyn's sprite for Fire Emblem Warriors, from the official Koei site. It's identical to the one on the boxart. Also, Caeda was stealth confirmed.

WELP ****

EDIT: Navarre being confirmed also means there's always the possibility of there being more characters not in the boxart(I mean, it'd be pretty dickish to include everyone BUT him in it)

A Ridley tease for Metroid: Samus Returns.

That's it.

I never said it was more than that

 

[N3ON]

CAEDA AND NAVARRE CONFIRMED (to appear. maybe playable. maybe not. I assume yes)

head to 1:20 and look near Marth and the fem OC

Navaaaaaaaaarrrrreeeee :DDDDD

I swear no one seems to care about him other than me and Sakurai

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Azura isn't playable. All not being there doesn't debunk it just because it's something you don't like. That's getting into the "roster is fake because no Ridley or K. Rool" territory.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

Think about it. Alm and Celica are pretty much the centerpieces of Echoes, if anything, I'd say Alm's more important.

I'm not saying I don't like it, I just don't think it makes sense to have one but not both in a case like this. The whole Ridley or K Rool thing you're implying is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

 

[Ivander]

CAEDA AND NAVARRE CONFIRMED (to appear. maybe playable. maybe not. I assume yes)

head to 1:20 and look near Marth and the fem OC

Where's Navarre? I saw Marth's red cape and Caeda, but where's Navarre?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

This, IS IN FACT, Lyn's sprite for Fire Emblem Warriors, from the official Koei site. It's identical to the one on the boxart. Also, Caeda was stealth confirmed.

Some people think that Navarre may have been spotted as well.

@phlavours Navarre in behind marth WTF pic.twitter.com/lHrCeGA3Xs

— 🅾️.🅱️🏴‍☠️ (@Maiden717) September 13, 2017

It's possible the box art leak was true, just not the final roster. We'll have to wait and see.

edit: dread fighter'd.

 

[Aetheri]

I think the Smash tease was merely hinting at Ridley because Ridley's very popular with Smash fans...that's probably it...

But I'm actually kind of more upset they'd even tease something like this to begin since the game's JUST TWO FRIKKIN DAYS AWAY!!!
WHY, NINTENDO, WOULD YOU EVEN SHOW ME THAT WHEN I'M GOING TO BE PLAYING THE GAME IN LESS THAN 48 HOURS!? I ALREADY WANT TO PLAY YOUR GAME DAMMIT!!!

 

[Ivander]

Some people think that Navarre may have been spotted as well.

@phlavours Navarre in behind marth WTF pic.twitter.com/lHrCeGA3Xs

— 🅾️.🅱️🏴‍☠️ (@Maiden717) September 13, 2017

It's possible the box art leak was true, just not the final roster. We'll have to wait and see.

edit: dread fighter'd.

That's......very vague. Are we sure it's Navarre and not Marth's cape?

Spoiler

 

[Mythra]

Why would they have Celica in the game without Alm.

The answer is simple: She Waifu af.

 

[N3ON]

Alm was DLC for Awakening prior to Celica. So we got one and not the other before.

It's entirely possible (and imo probable) he shows up later. This game is going to go ham with the DLC. Bank on it.

Where's Navarre? I saw Marth's red cape and Caeda, but where's Navarre?

He's pretty clearly behind Marth around 1:20, you can see his jaw and long black hair along with the red.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, I think that might just be Marth's cape.
C'mon Koei, stop being a ***** and make Marth's Cape playable already

 

[Yellowlord]

I think the Smash tease was merely hinting at Ridley because Ridley's very popular with Smash fans...that's probably it...

As much as I'd love for that tease to be hinting at Ridley for Smash, I am starting to accept the fact that the Smash mention may of purely been for marketing reasons and nothing more.

 

[Erureido]

This Direct was meh. Nothing really stood out to me except for a few things:

• Starting it off with Pokemon USUM, it looks like the story is basically the same story as the original Sun and Moon games but with Necrozma factored into it. We saw the exact same cutscene of the player character, Hau, and Lusamine encountering the Ultra Wormhole within Aether Paradise, and the way how those new UBs arrived looked exactly like the cutscene when Buzzwole/Pheromosa arrived in front of Hala (you can even see Hala briefly in both those scenes). Speaking of the new UBs, I definitely like UB-Burst much more than UB-Assembly. UB-Burst looks like some kind of fun lollipop from the candy store. UB-Assembly looks very plain in comparison: a fortress with an eye and some legs on the corners. Looks like it's only the better reason for me to buy UltraSun. Even then, this is still not enough to get me to buy the game.
• Not that interested in the Kirby: Battle Royale game, but I will be giving a vote to Archer Kirby for that favorite ability poll that just started after the Direct.
• I'm no Mario Party fan, but it's cool we have a MP game where you can play the best mini games from the past 10 titles. Still, not interested in buying it.
• I'm looking forward to picking up the Lady Layton game now that we know the release date.
• That Xenoblade Chronicles 2 trailer was definitely one of the few things I liked about this Direct. Looks like we have a Game of Thrones-like premise for the plot. That's interesting! I also find it cool that we finally have a Nopon-villain (if that trailer was anything to go by). There's a good chance I'll buy this game now, but I'm not sure if I will do so on launch.
• Lyn in Fire Emblem Warriors? Didn't expect that considering how it previously seemed like it was going to be just Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates. I don't care for Lyn, so I wasn't excited when she was revealed (I would've preferred Hector if they were picking someone from the FE7 Lord trio); but hey, her gameplay in this game looks solid, and congrats to all her fans. This also means that recent FE: Warriors leak just gained more credibility, and with that, I'm interested in seeing how Celica will play out if she ends up in the roster.
• Kirby: Star Allies is continuing to look great. I like how you can have create combination-style attacks with the help of your allies. Also, Buff-Dedede looks very entertaining; looking forward to that boss fight.
• Octopath Traveler has a neat premise, and the HD-2D visuals look stunning, but it doesn't seem like a game I want to pick up and buy, at least for right now.
• So the Champion Amiibo unlock new costumes for Link based on the Divine Beasts? Interesting. I'm surprised we didn't get more DLC pack 2 info though, but I guess that won't be happening until we get closer to that release date.
• Don't really care for a majority of the third party titles that were revealed to have Switch ports on the way.
  
• Mario Odyssey was another highlight of this Direct. So Cappy has a sister, that Tiara, and Bowser kidnapped her too. I wonder what's Bowser's reasons for doing so. The new kingdoms shown looked very nice, and I like the various ways you can receive hints as to where the Moons are. Also pretty neat that we can dress Mario as his Mario Maker and Doctor outfits, as well as giving him a summer-style clothing.

Yeah, there wasn't much I really liked out of this Direct. I didn't go into it with high expectations (I seriously doubted they would be showing Smash news as well; still seems too early for that), and it looks like I came out of it feeling the same. I felt rather bored for most of the Direct tbh.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

That's......very vague. Are we sure it's Navarre and not Marth's cape?

It's possible, but I doubt it personally. In motion in the trailer it looks to me like someone standing behind Marth, though that may be confirmation bias. whatever it is looks like it has sleeves, and you can see what appears to be skin just below Marth's shoulder pad.

But who knows, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Chandeelure]

Bandana Dee confirmed.

https://m.imgur.com/a/Xod7J

 

[N3ON]

LITERALLY ALL THEY SAID WAS METROID FANS AND SMASH BROS FANS CAN TAKE NOTICE

can we plz not make this into more than the tactical name-drop it was

its not a hint, its a business strategy

 

[Opossum]

Schrödinger's Cape: it's Navarre and not-Navarre simultaneously until it's one or the other.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

And after all this excitement, news from my brother-in-law and his wife. I'm going to be an uncle.

 

[_Sheik]

> won't add all of the main characters from the franchise since it would mean too many sword users
> casually adds a sword-wielding lord instead of the (arguably more popular) axe-wielding lord or the lance-wielding lord that both hail from her era

If you're going to damage control then at least do it in a more subtle fashion

Opossum do you still consider the leak to be fake? I don't give it much credit myself because I'm indifferent, but I'm curious as to know your input on this

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Pokemon Ultrasun and Ultramoon shows off two new pokemon aaaand.... they're ultra beasts. SIGH. But wait, I can get 12 quick balls if I download it early?! DEAL!

And holy **** does Arena of Valor look nearly identical of what I remember League of Legends being like. Bleh... I got a little curious about what the moba headline could be but it is so uninspired.

The more I see of Mario and Xenoblade the more I need them, glad the latter comes on the first of December. The rest is okay I guess.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

One last thing. I still haven't even started Pokemon Sun, but Ultra Sun will definitely be on my list to write to Santa Claus.

That's it. I disappear now!

 

[Opossum]

> won't add all of the main characters from the franchise since it would mean too many sword users
> casually adds a sword-wielding lord instead of the (arguably more popular) axe-wielding lord or the lance-wielding lord that both hail from her era

If you're going to damage control then at least do it in a more subtle fashion

Opossum do you still consider the leak to be fake? I don't give it much credit myself because I'm indifferent, but I'm curious as to know your input on this

Leak is 100% real. Lyn's Sprite on the website is an exact match with the leaked box art.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Why does Marth's cape have black hair?

 

[Deleted member]

EOV demo downloaded
I recommend any of you interested in it playing it, the EO demos are all great because they never limit your optioms like other demos, just your progress. Also, save data can be transfered so that's good.
If I disappear, know it's the character creation's fault.

 

[PLATINUM7]

LITERALLY ALL THEY SAID WAS METROID FANS AND SMASH BROS FANS CAN TAKE NOTICE

can we plz not make this into more than the tactical name-drop it was

its not a hint, its a business strategy

This is just going to keep happening. Any vague mention of Smash, or even a vague mention of things being in Smash causes people to go crazy.

Like when Snake was mentioned in the 50 fact extravaganza.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Yooooo this battle music on the octopath demo is great

 

[Yellowlord]

Well, I suppose this is my cue to disappear for a while again? I suppose it is.

Nonetheless, today's Direct was interesting despite getting confused at that Smash mention when they showed off Metroid: Samus Returns. I do have games to look forward to either way (especially with the Superstar Saga Remake, Kirby Star Allies, and Super Mario Odyssey).

Either way, let us see what the future holds in terms of game announcements.

 

[N3ON]

> won't add all of the main characters from the franchise since it would mean too many sword users
> casually adds a sword-wielding lord instead of the (arguably more popular) axe-wielding lord or the lance-wielding lord that both hail from her era

If you're going to damage control then at least do it in a more subtle fashion

Opossum do you still consider the leak to be fake? I don't give it much credit myself because I'm indifferent, but I'm curious as to know your input on this

Lyn is more popular than they are, she'll move more units.

sales > diversity

Why does Marth's cape have black hair?

and a face and a sleeve and a hand

 

[Coricus]

This Shadow Dragon business has been going more and more off the rails by the minute and I'm loving every second of it.

 

[Mythra]

At this point Lyn is on the road to become a playable character in a future Smash.

#BelieveThat