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can't wait for it to kill all the momentum Sonic Mania started

game looks so mediocre and stupid, none of the footage impresses
Goodness...

I understand not thinking the game will be good, but this sounds a bit petty.
 

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can't wait for it to kill all the momentum Sonic Mania started
I mean this was gonna happen even if Forces turns out pretty good.

You can't trust game reviewers to not do "le hot takes" and Mania near universally getting called "the first good Sonic game in 25 years" by everyone is just gonna add a ton of pressure to Forces.
 

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This is a really interesting theory regarding infinite. I think it's plausible.

Yeah same here. I think it'll be a good game.

Will it be better than Mania? Prolly not, but it doesn't have to be for me.

Hate the release date tho.
Cool video and at least the guy is modest and acknowledges there's probably some flaws with the theory. It promotes a discussion, which is all I ever really want from theory videos.

That being said, yeah, there are some flaws with the theory. Or at least his third option, which is the one he really wanted to discuss.

I highly, highly doubt Infinite is a corrupted "Mania Sonic". For one, the true ending animation actually shows Sonic travel through the portal with no corruption. He doesn't even have the Phantom Ruby in his possession at this point. He then strikes the pose Classic Sonic does in the reveal trailer for Forces. On top of that, in the Egg Dragoon footage we've seen from Forces, Eggman directly states that Classic Sonic is from another dimension. This all lines up to imply that the Classic Sonic we play as in Forces, is the Sonic we played as in Mania.

There's also the point of how Sonic in Mania interacted with the Phantom Ruby multiple times. Tails and Knuckles did as well (yes, I consider Sonic + Tails, and the Knuckles route, to all be canon, due to the events of Mirage Saloon Act 1 and Lava Reef Act 2). But none of them got corrupted at any point. This is speculation, but due to the fact that the only things we see effected by the Phantom Ruby are the Egg Robos who become the Hard-Boiled Heavies, and the stages themselves being changed around from their original states (I believe were are dimension hopping in Mania, not time hopping - except for the transition from Stardust Speedway Act 1 to Act 2 for the obvious call back to the mechanic in Sonic CD), I believe the Phantom Ruby may only be capable of messing with non-living things, but can potentially give them sentience, like with the Hard-Boiled Heavies. I think all it can do to living things is transport them to other dimensions.

Also it may be irrelevant since Mania Sonic might be a totally different Sonic, but in Sonic Unleashed (which Forces definitely has a connection to since Egg Dragoon is in it), Chip says that Sonic can't be corrupted to the point of losing himself since he's too pure of heart. As cheesy as that may be, it's an aspect of his character I don't think they'd just throw away. It was also sort of touched upon in Sonic Adventure, where Chaos uses the negative energy of the Chaos Emeralds, while Sonic still is capable of using them to power up due to him only ever using the positive energy.

I also don't think Infinite will be Mephiles. The visual similarities are certainly there, but honestly, I just don't see why they would bring him back. Metal Sonic is a main stay, Shadow kind of is too and was more iconic as a rival to Sonic than as a friend, Chaos is a fan-favourite who appears every so often, and Zavok is recent so they might want to do more with him. Mephiles was in one game, isn't well-liked, didn't even speak to Sonic at any point, and made his last appearance over ten years ago. I don't know what they would intend to do with him, there wouldn't be any shock value, bringing him back would just be plain confusing IMO.

The video does make a good point about the mask though, and the "You may call me...Infinite" line. It does seem clear that Infinite wants to conceal his identity. I think it's possible he's an established character, maybe even a non-descript third version of Sonic (BOOM SANIC!!!???), but it's too early to make a solid guess, honestly.

I think the idea of him being Mania Sonic would have been potentially really cool, but I think the possibility is already well crossed off.
 

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imo the line means nothing. The delivery however, does as it implies Infinite just came up with that name. I've seen similar lines thrown around for arrogant characters who act like they're above others, but the pause is meaningful
Well yeah that's basically what I meant.
 

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So here's something for your day.

There's this NeoGAF off topic thread about a bunch of piglets being saved from a fire by firefighters, and then a few months later when at slaughter weight they were killed and some of the meat was given to the firefighters that saved them as dinner. Kinda unsettling at first, but then all contemplation about the morality of the situation quickly gets quelled when the place enters. . .

VEGAN HELL (dun dun duuuuun)

Doesn't bacon cause cancer? Well if it does, that would be a pretty fitting case of karma.
Sounds like something slave owners would've said at one time about people born in to slavery.
lots of butthurt meatheads in this thread. face the facts; you're in the wrong end of nutrition, ethics, environment and decency.
I'm almost certain that most vegans are respectful of others, and there's even vegans and vegetarians in that very thread that stay perfectly sane and reasonable. But son of a vocal minority, what is this circus?
 

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So here's something for your day.

There's this NeoGAF off topic thread about a bunch of piglets being saved from a fire by firefighters, and then a few months later when at slaughter weight they were killed and some of the meat was given to the firefighters that saved them as dinner. Kinda unsettling at first, but then all contemplation about the morality of the situation quickly gets quelled when the place enters. . .

VEGAN HELL (dun dun duuuuun)





I'm almost certain that most vegans are respectful of others, and there's even vegans and vegetarians in that very thread that stay perfectly sane and reasonable. But son of a vocal minority, what is this circus?
"doesnt bacon cause cancer"

The ****?

Also what unsettling about eating the pigs? its about the same as raising a steer from a calf only to send it to the buchers to be turned into meat you might end uo eating yourself. or maybe I just have warped mind
 
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"doesnt bacon cause cancer"

The ****?
It was brought up at some point in the thread that it might apply to processed meats.

Then a post soon afterwards pointed out that this was on an English farm and the meat likely wasn't even processed anyway.
 

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So here's something for your day.

There's this NeoGAF off topic thread about a bunch of piglets being saved from a fire by firefighters, and then a few months later when at slaughter weight they were killed and some of the meat was given to the firefighters that saved them as dinner. Kinda unsettling at first, but then all contemplation about the morality of the situation quickly gets quelled when the place enters. . .

VEGAN HELL (dun dun duuuuun)





I'm almost certain that most vegans are respectful of others, and there's even vegans and vegetarians in that very thread that stay perfectly sane and reasonable. But son of a vocal minority, what is this circus?
Honestly it's stories like that that make me long for the day when lab grown meat becomes more commonplace.
 

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So here's something for your day.

There's this NeoGAF off topic thread about a bunch of piglets being saved from a fire by firefighters, and then a few months later when at slaughter weight they were killed and some of the meat was given to the firefighters that saved them as dinner. Kinda unsettling at first, but then all contemplation about the morality of the situation quickly gets quelled when the place enters. . .

VEGAN HELL (dun dun duuuuun)





I'm almost certain that most vegans are respectful of others, and there's even vegans and vegetarians in that very thread that stay perfectly sane and reasonable. But son of a vocal minority, what is this circus?
Corry, have you SEEN vegans? Always going on about how veganism is superior, torturing dogs to eat vegan stuff which they can't do and more.

Personally, I think the situation is kinda funny in a dark way. "You saved the piggies! Now you're allowed to eat them! :D"

In all seriousness, they were already going to be turned to meat, only this time it was given to the firemen and not food companies
 

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Corry, have you SEEN vegans? Always going on about how veganism is superior, torturing dogs to eat vegan stuff which they can't do and more.

Personally, I think the situation is kinda funny in a dark way. "You saved the piggies! Now you're allowed to eat them! :D"

In all seriousness, they were already going to be turned to meat, only this time it was given to the firemen and not food companies
Because stereotypes always apply to the whole group, right?
 

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Honestly it's stories like that that make me long for the day when lab grown meat becomes more commonplace.
If they can manage to get lab grown meat to grow in a pattern where it tastes about as good, or heck, even better than ordinary meat, I'll happily jump onto that boat. I'd be more than happy to have my bacon and eat it too.

Really lab grown would logically be the best of both worlds, but if people are going to flip out THAT badly I imagine some vegans would see it as morally reprehensible for "taking from an animal" at any point whatsoever or something.

The story was kinda unsettling at first but then the vegan squad completely derailed it.

Corry, have you SEEN vegans? Always going on about how veganism is superior, torturing dogs to eat vegan stuff which they can't do and more.

Personally, I think the situation is kinda funny in a dark way. "You saved the piggies! Now you're allowed to eat them! :D"

In all seriousness, they were already going to be turned to meat, only this time it was given to the firemen and not food companies
Dogs are at least omnivores, I feel way worse for the cats that get put on those diets since they're obligate carnivores.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/kitten-vegan-diet-nearly-dies_n_3644213.html
 

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If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would not have all the parts for it.

It's no more immoral then when a carnivorous animal eats another animal.

Just how nature is.
 

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Because stereotypes always apply to the whole group, right?
Now now, while I should have been more clear about it, I don't hate vegans. To quote Teen Titans, "I respect the fact you don't eat meat. Please respect the fact that I do"

Speaking of, Starfire's been cast for a Teen Titans show, which is live action if I'm not mistaken. Cue angry morons whining that Starfire's not black despite her canon skin colour being ****ing orange
 

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If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would not have all the parts for it.

It's no more immoral then when a carnivorous animal eats another animal.

Just how nature is.
if im gonna stop eating meat, Id become a Pescetarian like my cuz because I ****ing love seafood but can still eat eggs and fruit and stuff but knowing me, the smell of bacon will make me deviate pff
 
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Lab grown meat sounds like an interesting idea, but admittedly I have a feeling it might be unsafe.

At least for a while.
 

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Now now, while I should have been more clear about it, I don't hate vegans. To quote Teen Titans, "I respect the fact you don't eat meat. Please respect the fact that I do"

Speaking of, Starfire's been cast for a Teen Titans show, which is live action if I'm not mistaken. Cue angry morons whining that Starfire's not black despite her canon skin colour being ****ing orange
Source for this
http://deadline.com/2017/08/titans-...-action-series-dc-digital-service-1202155063/
And it IS live action. Hope it's good and not Flash Season 3
 

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If they can manage to get lab grown meat to grow in a pattern where it tastes about as good, or heck, even better than ordinary meat, I'll happily jump onto that boat. I'd be more than happy to have my bacon and eat it too.

Really lab grown would logically be the best of both worlds, but if people are going to flip out THAT badly I imagine some vegans would see it as morally reprehensible for "taking from an animal" at any point whatsoever or something.

The story was kinda unsettling at first but then the vegan squad completely derailed it.


Dogs are at least omnivores, I feel way worse for the cats that get put on those diets since they're obligate carnivores.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/kitten-vegan-diet-nearly-dies_n_3644213.html
From the test runs they've done of lab grown burgers and such, basically everyone who had them claimed there wasn't a noticeable difference in taste from non-lab grown meat, if it's any help.

The main issue is the cost, currently, IIRC. But with enough R and D I'm sure a more economically sufficient method of having lab grown meat will come eventually. The main thing is getting the proper funding since it'd probably require quite a bit to get started.

If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would not have all the parts for it.

It's no more immoral then when a carnivorous animal eats another animal.

Just how nature is.
On the other hand, it isn't as though nature is infallible. As an advanced species we can overcome our need for meat, since vegetarian and vegan diets are viable alternatives with proper supplements. Our omnivorous dental plan would just become a vestigial remnant of the past, like the coccyx and appendix.
 

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Earlier I posted a We Bare Bears ad promoting ARMS but with bad recording quality. Now we have a high quality one:


We also have a Splatoon 2 one as well:


Also, when is SmashBoards going to fix the blank YouTube thumbnails?
 

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If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would not have all the parts for it.

It's no more immoral then when a carnivorous animal eats another animal.

Just how nature is.
I've heard it mentioned somewhere that we probably wouldn't have even adapted as an intelligent species without being near the top of the food chain. Herbivores have to watch their backs too much to focus on that.

Really, a ton of the reprehensible behavior from humans in general has really weird parallels with other predators.

The main thing I can say we've improved from our predatory roots on as a species is that at least guys don't go out of their way to murder people's infants so the mother will have kids with them instead.

Meanwhile judging by the aforementioned dog and cat vegan diet incidents, I get the feeling some vegans think the food chain web AS A WHOLE is morally reprehensible. Which. . .I can't see being sustainable if taken to it's logical conclusion. Like, at all.

From the test runs they've done of lab grown burgers and such, basically everyone who had them claimed there wasn't a noticeable difference in taste from non-lab grown meat, if it's any help.

The main issue is the cost, currently, IIRC. But with enough R and D I'm sure a more economically sufficient method of having lab grown meat will come eventually. The main thing is getting the proper funding since it'd probably require quite a bit to get started.


On the other hand, it isn't as though nature is infallible. As an advanced species we can overcome our need for meat, since vegetarian and vegan diets are viable alternatives with proper supplements. Our omnivorous dental plan would just become a vestigial remnant of the past, like the coccyx and appendix.
Doesn't the appendix still have a functional purpose that people just didn't figure out for a long time and isn't fully understood? I mean, it's not NECESSARY, but neither is a second kidney or even a stomach.

*looks up*

The appendix is used both as a pocket for gut flora and as an active part of the immune system.

I should do a rant on gut flora soon, actually, I wanna see everyone's reactions to the truth within LOL.

As a matter of fact, apparently Darwin's proposal was that the appendix shrunk so much precisely because humans started becoming omnivores.
 
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The Fire Emblem Warriors website has added clear resolution images of the officials arts for Hinoka, Camilla, Takumi, and Leo.






They also added some of the in-game screenshots from yesterday's Famitsu scans onto the official website, giving us better resolution of the images. There is a new in-game screenshot of Takumi as well.






^I love that screenshot of Takumi.


Hinoka is one of those cases where I like how the character looks in-game but not their official art. I know her Warriors art is a 3D version of her official art from Fates, but the way how it is presented looks awkward.
FEW is that one game that looks better than it has any right to be.
Seriously, it looks just like FE13/14's cutscenes, this isn't fair.
dual types weren't going to be a thing in Pokémon, but were added relatively late in Gen I's development.
So, Flying didn't exist initially?
and the fact that most dual types could be reduced to one type, appearance-wise,
Charizard, Beedrill, Butterfree, Zubat line, Paras line, Scyther and Dragonite say hi.

Honestly tho, this sounds like one of those theories like "Butterfree and Venomoth were switched!", the game was way too balanced(well, for Gen 1 standards anyways) around these secondary typings that it wouldn't make sense to remove them.
Also, Gen 1 has a lot of stuff that doesn't behave the way it's supposed to be(critical hits and Ghost type, for example) so it's nothing out of ordinary for it.
Also also, the fact Flying types are all secondary types, I find it extremely hard to believe they added the type later and that Pidgeot and the like were just Normal originally
So here's something for your day.

There's this NeoGAF off topic thread about a bunch of piglets being saved from a fire by firefighters, and then a few months later when at slaughter weight they were killed and some of the meat was given to the firefighters that saved them as dinner. Kinda unsettling at first, but then all contemplation about the morality of the situation quickly gets quelled when the place enters. . .

VEGAN HELL (dun dun duuuuun)





I'm almost certain that most vegans are respectful of others, and there's even vegans and vegetarians in that very thread that stay perfectly sane and reasonable. But son of a vocal minority, what is this circus?
Yeah, that situation is unsettling, but gods, I hate this kind of people who feel the need to **** on others for not choosing to live the same way as them.
And this isn't just to those stereotypical "Have I mentioned that I'm vegan?" people, because I've seen "Meatheads" that feel the need to disapprove of others' lifestyles.

I'll say one thing though, if you want meat, then ****ing eat a dead animal. Don't come with this "soy meat" bull**** on me. I'm supposed to eat real meat, not a cheap Chinese bootleg of it.

 

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FEW is that one game that looks better than it has any right to be.
Seriously, it looks just like FE13/14's cutscenes, this isn't fair.

So, Flying didn't exist initially?

Charizard, Beedrill, Butterfree, Zubat line, Paras line, Scyther and Dragonite say hi.

Honestly tho, this sounds like one of those theories like "Butterfree and Venomoth were switched!", the game was way too balanced(well, for Gen 1 standards anyways) around these secondary typings that it wouldn't make sense to remove them.
Also, Gen 1 has a lot of stuff that doesn't behave the way it's supposed to be(critical hits and Ghost type, for example) so it's nothing out of ordinary for it.
Also also, the fact Flying types are all secondary types, I find it extremely hard to believe they added the type later and that Pidgeot and the like were just Normal originally

Yeah, that situation is unsettling, but gods, I hate this kind of people who feel the need to **** on others for not choosing to live the same way as them.
And this isn't just to those stereotypical "Have I mentioned that I'm vegan?" people, because I've seen "Meatheads" that feel the need to disapprove of others' lifestyles.

I'll say one thing though, if you want meat, then ****ing eat a dead animal. Don't come with this "soy meat" bull**** on me. I'm supposed to eat real meat, not a cheap Chinese bootleg of it.

Yeah, I'm game for lab grown but soy meat just sounds like it would be nasty.

Also some people can't actually handle soy that well. I have a family member that feels physically off from eating soy and it turns out soy is used all over the place. Soy meat would be kind of a detriment in that case compared to real meat.
 

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FEW is that one game that looks better than it has any right to be.
Seriously, it looks just like FE13/14's cutscenes, this isn't fair.

So, Flying didn't exist initially?

Charizard, Beedrill, Butterfree, Zubat line, Paras line, Scyther and Dragonite say hi.

Honestly tho, this sounds like one of those theories like "Butterfree and Venomoth were switched!", the game was way too balanced(well, for Gen 1 standards anyways) around these secondary typings that it wouldn't make sense to remove them.
Also, Gen 1 has a lot of stuff that doesn't behave the way it's supposed to be(critical hits and Ghost type, for example) so it's nothing out of ordinary for it.
Also also, the fact Flying types are all secondary types, I find it extremely hard to believe they added the type later and that Pidgeot and the like were just Normal originally

Yeah, that situation is unsettling, but gods, I hate this kind of people who feel the need to **** on others for not choosing to live the same way as them.
And this isn't just to those stereotypical "Have I mentioned that I'm vegan?" people, because I've seen "Meatheads" that feel the need to disapprove of others' lifestyles.

I'll say one thing though, if you want meat, then ****ing eat a dead animal. Don't come with this "soy meat" bull**** on me. I'm supposed to eat real meat, not a cheap Chinese bootleg of it.

I mean obviously all the Normal-Flying types had Normal tacked on, not Flying. Normal probably just appears first since Normal has an earlier numeric indicator in-game. Also for those:
Charizard - Fire
Beedrill, Butterfree, Parasect, Scyther - I SWEAR I MEANT BUG. PARASECT SCREWED ME UP.
Dragonite - Dragon
Zubat - Poison


The lack of Flying type on these doesn't matter when Venomoth and Beedrill already fly without being Flying type.

Edit: "Bird" existing in the code also kind of helps the fact that Flying is secondary. Was Bird first, Normal was added, Flying then added and Bird dropped.
 
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I mean obviously all the Normal-Flying types had Normal tacked on, not Flying. Normal probably just appears first since Normal has an earlier numeric indicator in-game. Also for those:
Charizard - Fire
Beedrill, Butterfree, Parasect, Scyther - Grass
Dragonite - Dragon
Zubat - Poison


The lack of Flying type on these doesn't matter when Venomoth and Beedrill already fly without being Flying type.
FEW is that one game that looks better than it has any right to be.
Seriously, it looks just like FE13/14's cutscenes, this isn't fair.

So, Flying didn't exist initially?

Charizard, Beedrill, Butterfree, Zubat line, Paras line, Scyther and Dragonite say hi.

Honestly tho, this sounds like one of those theories like "Butterfree and Venomoth were switched!", the game was way too balanced(well, for Gen 1 standards anyways) around these secondary typings that it wouldn't make sense to remove them.
Also, Gen 1 has a lot of stuff that doesn't behave the way it's supposed to be(critical hits and Ghost type, for example) so it's nothing out of ordinary for it.
Also also, the fact Flying types are all secondary types, I find it extremely hard to believe they added the type later and that Pidgeot and the like were just Normal originally

Yeah, that situation is unsettling, but gods, I hate this kind of people who feel the need to **** on others for not choosing to live the same way as them.
And this isn't just to those stereotypical "Have I mentioned that I'm vegan?" people, because I've seen "Meatheads" that feel the need to disapprove of others' lifestyles.

I'll say one thing though, if you want meat, then ****ing eat a dead animal. Don't come with this "soy meat" bull**** on me. I'm supposed to eat real meat, not a cheap Chinese bootleg of it.

To add to this.
There was originally going to be a Bird type iirc
 

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To add to this.
There was originally going to be a Bird type iirc
Mentioned it in my edit, but to elaborate...

It's very possible that what happened was this.

Dual types weren't a thing yet. Bird was there instead of Flying.
Dual types got introduced later on.
They realized Bird was limiting when they wanted to add a type to, say, Charizard.
Flying type was added and Bird was abandoned.

That'd explain why Flying is only listed as a secondary type, which Shoe had a hang up about.
 
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Normal probably just appears first since Normal has an earlier numeric indicator in-game.
But we have Pokemon who are Rock/Ground and Pokemon who are Ground/Rock in Gen 1, clearly the order is arbitrary and not based on coding
Bird" existing in the code also kind of helps the fact that Flying is secondary. Was Bird first, Normal was added, Flying then added and Bird dropped.
Oh yeah, Bird was a thing.
Still, I'd argue it makes more sense that Bird was originally Flying but they realised having Charizard be a "Bird" type would be as dumb as having a Seahorse be Dragon-type
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But we have Pokemon who are Rock/Ground and Pokemon who are Ground/Rock in Gen 1, clearly the order is arbitrary and not based on coding

Oh yeah, Bird was a thing.
Still, I'd argue it makes more sense that Bird was originally Flying but they realised having Charizard be a "Bird" type would be as dumb as having a Seahorse be Dragon-type

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So these are the side effects of lab-grown meat

Whoops, meant Bug on that last one. :p

And I know you were probably just being snarky but just in case you weren't, Kingdra and Dragalge are based on leafy sea dragons, hence the Dragon type.
 

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This link shows a side by side comparison of the TV episodes of Berserk 2016 and the Bluray versions. The difference is ****ing jawdropping. Berserk Clang Turbo edition goes from the worst animation I have seen in my life to viewable
 
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This link shows a side by side comparison of the TV episodes of Berserk 2016 and the Bluray versions. The difference is ****ing jawdropping. Berserk Clang Turbo edition goes from the worst animation I have seen in my life to viewable
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