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[Cutie Gwen]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1265547
Huh. Gamefreak just put something on Steam. And it's early access

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Planned team:

Popplio
Gastly (The japanese trailer showing off Alola Raichu had a Haunter that was being used by a Team Skull grunt, pratically confirming that Gastly's native to the region)
Grubbin
Turtonator

No clue on who to put in the last spots.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Turtonator
Lurantis
Vikavolt
(Possible Wimpod Evo if it's awesome)
Snowslash

That's all I got so far

 

[Opossum]

Turtonator
Lurantis
Vikavolt
(Possible Wimpod Evo if it's awesome)
Snowslash

That's all I got so far

Not using a starter this run?

 

[Z25]

I bet many people here are wondering what were my thoughts about this newest episode of Pokemon XY&Z.

Spoiler: My thoughts

Let's start with the positives. The animation was quite superb, probably even better than the last episode if I had to be honest. Greninja still had a very impressive fight. I enjoyed watching Mega Charizard vs Ash Greninja duking it out in what may be the best moment of animation in the entire Pokemon anime.

As for the negatives... I bet you all want to know what I thought about the conclusion of that battle. Here's the short answer:

...

In fact, I was even satisfied with the outcome.

Now for the more in-depth explanation.

I watched the newest episode when I woke up. I wanted to make sure I would watch it without being spoiled in advance. I watched it on Youtube because it was the only website that had the new episode uploaded at the time. When I saw the like/dislike bar where there were more dislikes than likes, I knew something bad happened in the episode that made people very angry: I had a feeling it was either Alain won or Team Flare interrupted the match towards the very end, forcing the Kalos League to shut down for the time being.

Going into my experience watching it, A part of me was optimistic that Ash was going to win. I mean, it would be a great way to continue the 20th anniversary celebration, Ash's team was looking pretty impressive (at least IMO), and even the anime was hyping up that Ash-Greninja would surpass Alain considering that Ash almost beat Alain and Diantha a couple of episodes ago (only reason he lost those matches was because he didn't fully master the Ash-Greninja transformation at the time). However, since Ash has a history of losing at every League he's competed in so far, a good part of me expected he would lose. I also thought another good possibility was that Team Flare interrupted the League. Long story short, I was not overly optimistic because I was prepared for any scenario the anime would throw at me.

Then came the ending. Ash-Greninja throws the Explosive Shuriken. As Greninja charges it up, Alain orders Charizard to use Blast Burn. Greninja threw the shuriken, and it looked like the Shuriken made contact with Charizard the moment Blast Burn hit Greninja. Probably the biggest explosion that ever happened in the Pokemon anime results from this. Charizard and Greninja struggle to stand, but Greninja ultimately is the one to fall, thus giving Alain the Kalos League victory.

When I Greninja getting knocked out, I did feel a little emotional inside. I will admit that ending was pretty ridiculous. Charizard surviving the Explosive Shuriken like that was pretty frustrating to see. It's almost as if the writers are simply glorifying the most popular Pokemon in existence once again, not to mention that an ending as disappointing as that was like how Ash lost to the overpowered Tobias. The moment Greninja was defeated, I figured out that's where the dislikes came from, and I knew the Pokemon fandom would be mad about this.

But I wasn't salty. In fact, I noticed there were still some admirable things about this finish that was still much better than Ash's Sinnoh League loss.

Let's start with Alain himself. The problem with Tobias was that he was introduced during the Sinnoh League, and he was pretty much designed to take out Ash in the League. He even had very little backstory. The only background we learned about Tobias was that, according to Conway, he cleared all the gyms using only his Darkrai. The fact he was sweeping every League match with only his Darkrai comes to show how overpowered he is. Yes, Ash managed to knock it out, but then Tobias had a Latios on his team and swept him from there. Afterwards, you can imagine Tobias had an easy time winning the finals with those two Pokemon.

Some of you will already compare Alain to Tobias because much like the latter, Alain basically swept most of the League matches (and perhaps even the Gym Leaders if his match with Korina was anything to go by) with only his Mega Charizard (with the exception of his second battle with Ash and his top 4 match where he used Metang and Metagross respectively). However, Alain was still handled much better than Tobias for two reasons:

• Unlike Tobias, Alain ended up using his entire team against Ash, unlike Tobias where he only used two Pokemon. The fact Ash forced Alain to use his entire team shows that Alain isn't as overpowered as the Darkrai trainer.
• And probably the most crucial difference: Alain is a character who we knew for a very long while. Unlike Tobias, Alain is a character who we saw develop. He was the main protagonist of the Mega Evolution specials after all, not to mention he also made multiple major appearances in the XY&Z portion of the anime, and this allowed us to understand his character for quite a while. He wasn't just some edgy protagonist or a Gary Stu. We saw the high points of his character, and even his low points. Those low points even allowed him to develop as a character. It's because of these things

And now for the second admirable thing about the finish: how Ash and the others react.

I was expecting Clemont, Bonnie, Serena, Sawyer, and the XY rival trio to show some visible signs of upset upon Ash's defeat. I even thought Ash would show some signs of disappointment. It turns out none of them were mad about Ash losing at all.

Clement, Bonnie, Serena, Sawyer, and the XY rival trio all looked very satisfied with the outcome. They acknowledged that it was a really good fight, and that both thought Alain and Ash put up a very impressive fight. They also believed Ash has done a really impressive job throughout it.

And now we have Ash himself. He just lost the finals. Does he cry? No. Does he become angry? No. His reaction then?

He doesn't look the least bit upset. Now let's look at how he approached Greninja.

Translation of what's going on:

Ash: "You did well, Greninja."
Greninja: "Kouga..."
Ash: "Don't apologize. I'm thankful to you guys."

Greninja apologizes for not being able to win, and Ash was still very proud of all his Pokemon for all the effort they put into that fight. Ash is not the least bit of upset, unlike his past League matches. Heck, he is happy watching Alain get his trophy during the winner's ceremony and congratulates him for a job well done. Again, no visible signs of disappointment.

One might be questioning this and saying, "Why isn't Ash bummed? He just lost the finals in a very close match!"

The way I look at this, this demonstrates how far Ash has grown as a Pokemon trainer. He isn't upset that he lost. He puts up a smile. Ash knew Alain was a very strong opponent, and the two even developed a strong bond. Ash knew that he and his Pokemon were battling at their very best. He's happy that he made this far. The way he looks at it, he's made it to the finals. That's the farthest he's ever been, and making this far is an impressive accomplishment. Ladies and gentleman, this is character development!

In addition, what was the one trait that Serena likes the most about Ash? He's an optimist! The fact Ash is staying this positive about the loss captures this. Again, this shows how far Ash has grown as a Pokemon trainer.

So in all, I wasn't even mad that Ash lost. I didn't put my hopes up that much and was ready for whatever the outcome would be, whether it be Ash winning, Ash losing, or Team Flare intervening. The ending of the battle, while admittedly cheap, was still really good. At least Ash lost to a trainer who we got to know and perhaps even become attached to, unlike Tobias. Ash's optimistic reaction following his loss also shows how far he's developed as a Pokemon trainer.

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As for the rest of this episode, I was partially right about something: Team Flare does interrupt during the Pokemon League, specifically during the trophy ceremony. The way how it develops was also pretty epic. Team Flare's technology has developed to the point they are able to fully mind control Zygarde, turning it into its 50% form and unleashing the destructive vines that start to destroy Lumiose City, including the stadium. Lysandre looks really intimidating during this part of the episode. He even left the League stadium sometime towards the end of the battle to visit Prism Tower and execute his evil plan.

And to be quite honest, the end of the episode is really making me look forward to this upcoming arc!

We also have a trailer for the Team Flare finale arc, and it's looking really good!

Seems like there's going to be some pretty serious moments throughout it!

The arc does look promising. I wonder why Lysandre has a shiny gyrados. Someone's been chain fishing.

Also totally calling that they revoke the title of league victor from Alain in the end. There will probably be an Ash vs Alain fight in the arc as well. I imagine Ash would be a bit angry that he betrayed and allowed all this to happen. There, they'll pull some top tier anime move where Greninja gets stronger and another super shuriken that wrecks charziarrd.

I wonder where the tie in to Alola will come from though.

The trailer also only covers 4 episodes, maybe 6. As I don't see the Lysandre fight or Zygarde complete happening in the first 4 episode titles. So we might still get more.

Looking forward to it. Oh and they are definitely having Serena rescue Ash. The rivals seems to protect the city, and Clemonts father is either showing up in the Xersoic fight or he will help out each of them throughout maybe.

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And Tortunator looks pretty cool. I might actually use him. It's tough to decide a team at the moment.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1265547
Huh. Gamefreak just put something on Steam. And it's early access

Looks interesting. This also confirms that the trademark Gigareki does not relate to pokemon, but a new game instead.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Not using a starter this run?

I may not.

There is a fire type I like, there is a grass type I like

and if Wimpod's possible evo is awesome there would be a water type I like

Otherwise I may use Popplio

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, Ash might not have won but all I care about is his story getting a closure so we can get a new protagonist for the anime, and I still believe there's a good chance this might happen

As for Turtonator, I really like it
Cool design, RNG Armor is a great ability, Fire/Dragon on a non-legendary or Mega and it gets a Fire type Counter

The arc does look promising. I wonder why Lysandre has a shiny gyrados. Someone's been chain fishing.

Nah, he just went to the Lake of Rage, it doesn't count

 

[FalKoopa]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we got a turtle that is related to volcanoes and lava, and has a spiky shell.

Spoiler

In other words, we got as a Pokémon

 

[A Distant Demon]

Nearly a lock:
Popplio
Vikavolt or Alola Raichu
Muddsdale
Snowslash or Ninetails

Subject to change:
Maybe Lurantis and Comfey. (Both depends on stats/movepool and whether or not I can get over Lurantis's clwon pants)
Eevee


Also at the last level of birthright. I can finally look up some of the OST of this game. . .so much music to go through. And equipment to sort/forge

 

[Z25]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we got a turtle that is related to volcanoes and lava, and has a spiky shell.

Spoiler

In other words, we got as a Pokémon

We also got his Alola form:

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Planned team:
Rowlet
Mudsdale
Litten (I'll get someone to trade me one), Salandit or Turtonator (depends on Litten evo's typing and Salandit's evolution)
Vikavolt
Bruxish (not a fan of the design but my planned team lacked both Water and Psychic type)
Alolan Ninetales or Sandslash

Currently, only Rowlet and Mudsdale are locks.

Another possibility would be to use Wimpod and Alolan Raichu instead of Vikavolt and Bruxish.

EDIT: Forgot Ice types.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

You'd think the hyper move for normal would be some kind of ultra version of Hyper Beam

But I guess it's called "Hyper Sprint Attack" which doesn't sound impressive

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I bet many people here are wondering what were my thoughts about this newest episode of Pokemon XY&Z.

Spoiler: My thoughts

Let's start with the positives. The animation was quite superb, probably even better than the last episode if I had to be honest. Greninja still had a very impressive fight. I enjoyed watching Mega Charizard vs Ash Greninja duking it out in what may be the best moment of animation in the entire Pokemon anime.

As for the negatives... I bet you all want to know what I thought about the conclusion of that battle. Here's the short answer:

...

In fact, I was even satisfied with the outcome.

Now for the more in-depth explanation.

I watched the newest episode when I woke up. I wanted to make sure I would watch it without being spoiled in advance. I watched it on Youtube because it was the only website that had the new episode uploaded at the time. When I saw the like/dislike bar where there were more dislikes than likes, I knew something bad happened in the episode that made people very angry: I had a feeling it was either Alain won or Team Flare interrupted the match towards the very end, forcing the Kalos League to shut down for the time being.

Going into my experience watching it, A part of me was optimistic that Ash was going to win. I mean, it would be a great way to continue the 20th anniversary celebration, Ash's team was looking pretty impressive (at least IMO), and even the anime was hyping up that Ash-Greninja would surpass Alain considering that Ash almost beat Alain and Diantha a couple of episodes ago (only reason he lost those matches was because he didn't fully master the Ash-Greninja transformation at the time). However, since Ash has a history of losing at every League he's competed in so far, a good part of me expected he would lose. I also thought another good possibility was that Team Flare interrupted the League. Long story short, I was not overly optimistic because I was prepared for any scenario the anime would throw at me.

Then came the ending. Ash-Greninja throws the Explosive Shuriken. As Greninja charges it up, Alain orders Charizard to use Blast Burn. Greninja threw the shuriken, and it looked like the Shuriken made contact with Charizard the moment Blast Burn hit Greninja. Probably the biggest explosion that ever happened in the Pokemon anime results from this. Charizard and Greninja struggle to stand, but Greninja ultimately is the one to fall, thus giving Alain the Kalos League victory.

When I Greninja getting knocked out, I did feel a little emotional inside. I will admit that ending was pretty ridiculous. Charizard surviving the Explosive Shuriken like that was pretty frustrating to see. It's almost as if the writers are simply glorifying the most popular Pokemon in existence once again, not to mention that an ending as disappointing as that was like how Ash lost to the overpowered Tobias. The moment Greninja was defeated, I figured out that's where the dislikes came from, and I knew the Pokemon fandom would be mad about this.

But I wasn't salty. In fact, I noticed there were still some admirable things about this finish that was still much better than Ash's Sinnoh League loss.

Let's start with Alain himself. The problem with Tobias was that he was introduced during the Sinnoh League, and he was pretty much designed to take out Ash in the League. He even had very little backstory. The only background we learned about Tobias was that, according to Conway, he cleared all the gyms using only his Darkrai. The fact he was sweeping every League match with only his Darkrai comes to show how overpowered he is. Yes, Ash managed to knock it out, but then Tobias had a Latios on his team and swept him from there. Afterwards, you can imagine Tobias had an easy time winning the finals with those two Pokemon.

Some of you will already compare Alain to Tobias because much like the latter, Alain basically swept most of the League matches (and perhaps even the Gym Leaders if his match with Korina was anything to go by) with only his Mega Charizard (with the exception of his second battle with Ash and his top 4 match where he used Metang and Metagross respectively). However, Alain was still handled much better than Tobias for two reasons:

• Unlike Tobias, Alain ended up using his entire team against Ash, unlike Tobias where he only used two Pokemon. The fact Ash forced Alain to use his entire team shows that Alain isn't as overpowered as the Darkrai trainer.
• And probably the most crucial difference: Alain is a character who we knew for a very long while. Unlike Tobias, Alain is a character who we saw develop. He was the main protagonist of the Mega Evolution specials after all, not to mention he also made multiple major appearances in the XY&Z portion of the anime, and this allowed us to understand his character for quite a while. He wasn't just some edgy protagonist or a Gary Stu. We saw the high points of his character, and even his low points. Those low points even allowed him to develop as a character.

And now for the second admirable thing about the finish: how Ash and the others react.

I was expecting Clemont, Bonnie, Serena, Sawyer, and the XY rival trio to show some visible signs of upset upon Ash's defeat. I even thought Ash would show some signs of disappointment. It turns out none of them were mad about Ash losing at all.

Clement, Bonnie, Serena, Sawyer, and the XY rival trio all looked very satisfied with the outcome. They acknowledged that it was a really good fight, and that both thought Alain and Ash put up a very impressive fight. They also believed Ash has done a really impressive job throughout it.

And now we have Ash himself. He just lost the finals. Does he cry? No. Does he become angry? No. His reaction then?

He doesn't look the least bit upset. Now let's look at how he approached Greninja.

Translation of what's going on:

Ash: "You did well, Greninja."
Greninja: "Kouga..."
Ash: "Don't apologize. I'm thankful to you guys."

Greninja apologizes for not being able to win, and Ash was still very proud of all his Pokemon for all the effort they put into that fight. Ash is not the least bit of upset, unlike his past League matches. Heck, he is happy watching Alain get his trophy during the winner's ceremony and congratulates him for a job well done. Again, no visible signs of disappointment.

One might be questioning this and saying, "Why isn't Ash bummed? He just lost the finals in a very close match!"

The way I look at this, this demonstrates how far Ash has grown as a Pokemon trainer. He isn't upset that he lost. He puts up a smile. Ash knew Alain was a very strong opponent, and the two even developed a strong bond. Ash knew that he and his Pokemon were battling at their very best. He's happy that he made this far. The way he looks at it, he's made it to the finals. That's the farthest he's ever been, and making this far is an impressive accomplishment. Ladies and gentleman, this is character development!

In addition, what was the one trait that Serena likes the most about Ash? He's an optimist! The fact Ash is staying this positive about the loss captures this. Again, this shows how far Ash has grown as a Pokemon trainer.

So in all, I wasn't even mad that Ash lost. I didn't put my hopes up that much and was ready for whatever the outcome would be, whether it be Ash winning, Ash losing, or Team Flare intervening. The ending of the battle, while admittedly cheap, was still really good. At least Ash lost to a trainer who we got to know and perhaps even become attached to, unlike Tobias. Ash's optimistic reaction following his loss also shows how far he's developed as a Pokemon trainer.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As for the rest of this episode, I was partially right about something: Team Flare does interrupt during the Pokemon League, specifically during the trophy ceremony. The way how it develops was also pretty epic. Team Flare's technology has developed to the point they are able to fully mind control Zygarde, turning it into its 50% form and unleashing the destructive vines that start to destroy Lumiose City, including the stadium. Lysandre looks really intimidating during this part of the episode. He even left the League stadium sometime towards the end of the battle to visit Prism Tower and execute his evil plan.

And to be quite honest, the end of the episode is really making me look forward to this upcoming arc!

We also have a trailer for the Team Flare finale arc, and it's looking really good!

Seems like there's going to be some pretty serious moments throughout it!

The Team Flare Arc look lit, Im hyped

 

[Ura]

Just saw the Ash/Alain outcome.

Spoiler

#LOLASHNEVERWINS

Let the ****posting begin.

I don't know why anyone expects the Pokemon Anime to change. It's always going to be the same thing.

- Ash goes to region, Pikachu somehow becomes weaker than he was in the previous region
- Ash gains a female and male traveling partner and a rival or two
- Ash goes through the Gym's and maybe fights against the villainous team of the region
- Ash goes to the Pokemon League and loses in the quarter finals, semi-finals, or maybe the finals if the writers are generous.
- Ash leaves all his Pokemon sans Pikachu at Oak's and goes to the new region.

I seriously don't know why people expect the anime to be any different from the 5 key point I laid out above. It's always going to be the same **** so as long as they can continue to milk the series. Ash is going to go to Alola and the same formula will apply there as well. Same goes for all the other regions he goes to. I dropped it a very long time ago and i'm glad I did.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Ash is going to go to Alola

If that anime actually happens, Imma watch that asap

 

[Ura]

If that anime actually happens, Imma watch that asap

Ash was in the concept art in Sun and Moon meaning it's a lock that he's coming back. Really didn't expect otherwise.

 

[A Distant Demon]

But I guess it's called "Hyper Sprint Attack" which doesn't sound impressive

Sounds like ExtremeExtremespeed

 

[Z25]

We know from volcanion's movie, that the Alola anime is happening so it will probably star Ash. That should be a pretty neat series with how different the region is.

 

[Opossum]

I just wish they'd bring Brock back. Hasn't been the same since he left. :/

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Ash was in the concept art in Sun and Moon meaning it's a lock that he's coming back. Really didn't expect otherwise.

Ooh yeah that leak, Well I'll be looking forward to that series for sure

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

I don't know why anyone expects the Pokemon Anime to change. It's always going to be the same thing.

- Ash goes to region, Pikachu somehow becomes weaker than he was in the previous region
- Ash gains a female and male traveling partner and a rival or two
- Ash goes through the Gym's and maybe fights against the villainous team of the region
- Ash goes to the Pokemon League and loses in the quarter finals, semi-finals, or maybe the finals if the writers are generous.
- Ash leaves all his Pokemon sans Pikachu at Oak's and goes to the new region.

I seriously don't know why people expect the anime to be any different from the 5 key point I laid out above. It's always going to be the same **** so as long as they can continue to milk the series. Ash is going to go to Alola and the same formula will apply there as well. Same goes for all the other regions he goes to. I dropped it a very long time ago and i'm glad I did.

You forgot "The traveling partner(s) hears about another region and suddenly decides to travel there."

(I know it didn't happen to Brock, Misty and Tracey, but it's still the most common explanation for traveling partner's departure)

 

[Ura]

Ooh yeah that leak, Well I'll be looking forward to that series for sure

Well to each their own I guess because I don't share that sentiment unfortunately.

I am looking forward, however to seeing how the Sun & Moon arc in the PokeSpe plays out. With PokeSpe it isn't the same bull all the time and the characters actually get older and develop.

You forgot "The traveling partner(s) hears about another region and suddenly decides to travel there."

(I know it didn't happen to Brock, Misty and Tracey, but it's still the most common explanation for traveling partner's departure)

Oh yeah lol.

May went to Johto and Dawn I forgot. Same with Cilan and Iris.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If Serena doesn't tag along I'll denounce the ship dead

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

If Serena doesn't tag along I'll denounce the ship dead

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

Just imagine to uproar it would cause.

 

[Ura]

If Serena doesn't tag along I'll denounce the ship dead

No duh! Pokeshipping is obviously canon lulz.

I really hope the above statement never comes true.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Bonus points if brock comes back in this design

This was one hot design

 

[Guybrush20X6]

We know from volcanion's movie, that the Alola anime is happening so it will probably star Ash. That should be a pretty neat series with how different the region is.

Then again we had high hopes that B&W would be different as the games had better story. Too bad we forgot that the anime pretends the games have no story. Anime Kyurem is a major example.

 

[Erureido]

The arc does look promising. I wonder why Lysandre has a shiny gyrados. Someone's been chain fishing.

Also totally calling that they revoke the title of league victor from Alain in the end. There will probably be an Ash vs Alain fight in the arc as well. I imagine Ash would be a bit angry that he betrayed and allowed all this to happen. There, they'll pull some top tier anime move where Greninja gets stronger and another super shuriken that wrecks charziarrd.

I wonder where the tie in to Alola will come from though.

The trailer also only covers 4 episodes, maybe 6. As I don't see the Lysandre fight or Zygarde complete happening in the first 4 episode titles. So we might still get more.

Looking forward to it. Oh and they are definitely having Serena rescue Ash. The rivals seems to protect the city, and Clemonts father is either showing up in the Xersoic fight or he will help out each of them throughout maybe.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And Tortunator looks pretty cool. I might actually use him. It's tough to decide a team at the moment.

Looks interesting. This also confirms that the trademark Gigareki does not relate to pokemon, but a new game instead.

Alain losing his title seems like a good possibility. I think it's already given Ash will be a bit angry at Alain considering that in the trailer, we hear Ash screaming "Alain, what is the meaning of this," while Alain has some sort of evil expression to him. My guess is that Alain will be manipulated by Lysandre for something during the arc, and it could lead to another battle between them. Perhaps this is where we will see Ash get his revenge on Alain.

Serena rescuing Ash is something that I'm looking forward to see. I'm really interested in seeing why Clemont is crying. I can understand why Bonnie is crying in the trailer (seems like something related to Puni-chan), but the Clemont part is making me curious. Maybe it's because of a desperate attempt to save his gym?

The action is still looking top notch though. Ash-Greninja is still slicing up vines like he's Levi from Attack on Titan, and that Zygarde battle is looking pretty hype.

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Just realized I haven't given my thoughts about Tortunator yet.

It looks pretty cool. We finally have another Fire/Dragon type that isn't a legendary or a Mega Evolution, and it's move seems pretty interesting: a Fire-type counter. Makes me wonder if we will have new Counter-like moves with different types. I also have a feeling Tortunator could already be the final stage in its evolution since it looks pretty developed, but we'll see about that.

I think Tortunator could be on my team if I end up not owning an Alola Marowak.

 

[Deleted member]

Then again we had high hopes that B&W would be different as the games had better story. Too bad we forgot that the anime pretends the games have no story. Anime Kyurem is a major example.

Anime Kyurem is literally "we needed to include all of his forms but halfway through we forgot to write in the 3 necessary things to do so, so at the end we just said **** it and ignored them"

 

[Ura]

Bonus points if brock comes back in this design

This was one hot design

That design would really only work if there was a time skip IMO. Same with Misty's HGSS design.

 

[epicmartin7]

Man. This puts Kaizo to shame.

 

[Z25]

Then again we had high hopes that B&W would be different as the games had better story. Too bad we forgot that the anime pretends the games have no story. Anime Kyurem is a major example.

From what I heard in the Gamexplain discussion on why you should watch the XY anime, black and white had trouble because of the earthquakes in Japan. They had to cancel a special that was going to heavily set up the Team Plasma arc and un released/ unfinished episodes had to be rushed out apparently, thus causing the series to become what it did.

Which sucks as it had a lot of potential.

Alain losing his title seems like a good possibility. I think it's already given Ash will be a bit angry at Alain considering that in the trailer, we hear Ash screaming "Alain, what is the meaning of this," while Alain has some sort of evil expression to him. My guess is that Alain will be manipulated by Lysandre for something during the arc, and it could lead to another battle between them. Perhaps this is where we will see Ash get his revenge on Alain.

Serena rescuing Ash is something that I'm looking forward to see. I'm really interested in seeing why Clemont is crying. I can understand why Bonnie is crying in the trailer (seems like something related to Puni-chan), but the Clemont part is making me curious. Maybe it's because of a desperate attempt to save his gym?

The action is still looking top notch though. Ash-Greninja is still slicing up vines like he's Levi from Attack on Titan, and that Zygarde battle is looking pretty hype.

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Just realized I haven't given my thoughts about Tortunator yet.

It looks pretty cool. We finally have another Fire/Dragon type that isn't a legendary or a Mega Evolution, and it's move seems pretty interesting: a Fire-type counter. Makes me wonder if we will have new Counter-like moves with different types. I also have a feeling Tortunator could already be the final stage in its evolution since it looks pretty developed, but we'll see about that.

I think Tortunator could be on my team if I end up not owning an Alola Marowak.

Alain will probably side with Lysandre because of all he's give Alain, or Lysandre kidnaps Malon to, to force Alain to help. The clemont part is also interesting, I don't know exactly what it could relate to. Maybe as you said, taking back the gym. Perhaps he is getting destroyed by Xerosic and Blaziken Man shows up and makes him realize all on the line and how important the fight is, thus giving him the strength to fight on.

The action should definitely be good though from the looks of it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Z-Moves aren't locked to the pokemon's typing, and don't take a fifth slot after all. This means a certain fairy fodder suddenly got a LOT of new toys. Hydreigon learns all types other than Grass and Fairy

 

[Aetheri]

So thinking about my potential Sun and Moon team...

I'm honestly at a loss there's so many choices I like so far its hard to narrow it down to just six...especially if you take Alola forms into consideration...

And not all pokemon revealed are even fully evolved yet so they could get better...

I do have one complaint regarding the lack of new Dark types though...need more dark types...

 

[Deleted member]

Z-Moves aren't locked to the pokemon's typing, and don't take a fifth slot after all. This means a certain fairy fodder suddenly got a LOT of new toys. Hydreigon learns all types other than Grass and Fairy

So, how are they decided?
Welp, that means Hydreigon doesn't need to run Flash Cannon anymore, as long as the Steel Z-Move is Special.
Back to Gen 5's Life Orb Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse/Fire Blast/Roost set now with a Steel or Poison Z-Move to kill whatever Fairy the opponent has

 

[Burruni]

Alolan Teams.

Sun
Litten
Florantis
Mimikyu
Minior
Snowslash
[ Wimpod currently but I'd like another ground type whose design I like ]

Moon
Rowlett
Rockruff
Sandghastle
Psychu
Frostales
[ I want a fighting type that isn't a bear here ]

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So, how are they decided?
Welp, that means Hydreigon doesn't need to run Flash Cannon anymore, as long as the Steel Z-Move is Special.
Back to Gen 5's Life Orb Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse/Fire Blast/Roost set now with a Steel or Poison Z-Move to kill whatever Fairy the opponent has

Hydreigon has Flash Cannon and the Steel crystal. You tap 'Z-Move'. Flash Cannon is replaced by the Z-Move in the menu, You tap 'Z-Move' again if you don't want to use the move in hindsight

 

[Deleted member]

Hydreigon has Flash Cannon and the Steel crystal. You tap 'Z-Move'. Flash Cannon is replaced by the Z-Move in the menu, You tap 'Z-Move' again if you don't want to use the move in hindsight

Then that means you need a move of a specific type to use a Z-Move of that type. Sucks to be Hydreigon I guess
Oh well, at least it doesn't allow for crazy type coverage combos

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Then that means you need a move of a specific type to use a Z-Move of that type. Sucks to be Hydreigon I guess
Oh well, at least it doesn't allow for crazy type coverage combos

Again, Hydreigon learns almost any type. Just slap a decent move on it and you can have fun mindgames

 

[Kenith]

So thinking about my potential Sun and Moon team...

I'm honestly at a loss there's so many choices I like so far its hard to narrow it down to just six...especially if you take Alola forms into consideration...

And not all pokemon revealed are even fully evolved yet so they could get better...

I do have one complaint regarding the lack of new Dark types though...need more dark types...

I'm lucky that my favorite Pokemon from this region so far is (hopefully and presumably) a fully evolved one.
I never cling too hard to the starters because I know they'll evolve to either be meh or ugly.
Unless they're . Damn you being so much better than your peers in every way.

And hey, you have a dark type! Mimikyu is---
*looks up Mimikyu, sees it's Ghost/Fairy, and not Ghost/Dark*

Why is it Fairy? WHY IS EVERYTHING FAIRY