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[ChikoLad]

Of all the things I'd say about Paper Jam I wouldn't even call its art direction uninspired, it's the same gorgeous art-style they used in Dream Team. The enemy selections aren't the most diverse if that's what you mean but I really loved how different the paper and real enemies were, particularly when it comes to the boss fights and other such things (Paper Petey was so different from regular Petey, also Petey Piranha should be in more Mario things, I want to golf with real power again.)

Maybe I just don't get it, I agree NSMB as an art direction is getting old (I appreciate their Van Gogh painting level though that was kinda cool) but Paper Jam never struck me as that.

The only game I was disappointed in when it comes to spin-offs is Ultra Smash tbh, that game deserved to be good but they rushed the **** out of Camelot and it wasn't the Mario Golf World Tour of Mario Tennis games.

The entire game is literally the same as NSMB in how it's structured and the art assets are very similar to boot. Plains world, forest world, desert world, beach world, ice world, lava world, etc.

Other Mario RPGs may have had worlds that fit these tropes, but they DID something with the tropes and made them feel unique, not just "see this grassy mountain in the plains world? We will take the exact same asset and recolour it for the other worlds. Same with many other assets too!". Paper Jam took these location tropes to their literal extreme. I have seen tons of footage and screenshots and everything looks so samey throughout the game and I can't get an interest in exploring the world. I could actually see it being hard to get around since nothing is recognisable. It's more dull than an "all brown shooter game".

And while having a few paper enemies be different to their real counterparts is novel, they should have just used actual original enemies from Paper Mario, which would be far more interesting.

 

[Deleted member]

Just don't buy Color Splash, guys. Once they see the sales, they might make Paper Mario 6 a bit more like PM64 or TTYD.

Or they may not make another Paper Mario at all.


Double-edged sword you are proposing.

 

[Bananija]

You know what would be grate?

An HD remake of Mother 3 coming out on the NX at launch. Hopefully, this is why there wasn't any Mother 3 at E3.

 

[Chandeelure]

Dat Up Air.

 

[Wolfie557]

Honestly, the things that they should have shown are:
>Dragon Quest 8
>Smash Amiibo
>Metroid Federation Force
>Mother 3 IF it is actually being localized.

 

[ChikoLad]

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This is cool on one hand but also I just recently bought Paper Mario on VC.

 

[Deleted member]

I love watching people go crazy because of series I don't care about, it's fun to watch as everything burns and you're just sitting in the middle of the room with no idea of what's going on

 

[Zane13pyro]

hi sorry been sick how are all of you

 

[TTTTTsd]

You've seen all this footage but have you played the game? I own it, and I thought it was pretty damn good. You can have same-y backdrops and take it to all the extremes you want while still being entertaining to play and pretty enjoyable (The Koopa Kids having actual personalities was kind of neat, lo and behold they demand a paper appearance and it actually happens! Kinda cool), and the fanbase didn't hate the game (most liked it, and I don't think it's the best ever or anything but it's solid and a good ending to the 3DS M&L series, inevitably they're doing a New 3DS one or something.)

Like I can't help but feel like the press and media and other people influence too much nowadays. Whatever happened to just experiencing it? Whatevs, I'm not getting in a circular opinion debate, game wasn't really that bad or bad at all really to me, I thought Partners in Time was the low point for M&L. Snivelling, annoying children, for a whole game! It has not aged well.

 

[ChikoLad]

hi sorry been sick how are all of you

Going crazy over E3 in more ways than one.

You've seen all this footage but have you played the game? I own it, and I thought it was pretty damn good. You can have same-y backdrops and take it to all the extremes you want while still being entertaining to play and pretty enjoyable, and the fanbase didn't hate the game (most liked it, and I don't think it's the best ever or anything but it's solid and a good ending to the 3DS M&L series, inevitably they're doing a New 3DS one or something.)

Like I can't help but feel like the press and media and other people influence too much nowadays. Whatever happened to just experiencing it? Whatevs, I'm not getting in a circular opinion debate, game wasn't really that bad or bad at all really to me, I thought Partners in Time was the low point for M&L. Snivelling, annoying children, for a whole game! It has not aged well.

I don't need to play a game to see whether or not it looks like the world is interesting.

In an Adventure/RPG game, the world HAS to be interesting. If it isn't, why should I buy the game and explore it?

That's one of the fatal flaws of Paper Jam. You can tell me I should play it all you like and that I'm being unfair (though for the record, the gameplay is also meh and I have much better RPGs to play, both old, recent, and ones on Nintendo platforms), but a game's world HAS to draw you in before release if exploring it is a major focus. Paper Jam failed in that regard.

 

[ElectroLightning]

Nintendo E3 is over.

Mother 3 confirmed for 2017.

Not falling for it...

 

[Zane13pyro]

Going crazy over E3 in more ways than one.

yea alot of good games

 

[Wario Bros.]

Is it bad that I'm expecting The Pokémon Company to release English info from the CoroCoro reveal despite the new content shown at E3?

I mean, that magazine is scheduled to officially come out this week and can't keep quiet forever.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I just realized something: We haven't heard a word about Federation Force at E3.

Sure, some don't want to hear about it, but it's still an upcoming Nintendo title.

LOL It really makes me wonder if they have more faith in Color Splash than that game.

 

[Deleted member]

Dat Up Air.

"It's something Cloud-related, isn't it....?"

*sees clip*

"Goddammit...."

 

[Burruni]

Welp... buying Megamix once I hit 100% on PR.
And that depends on if I win on this attempt of True Arena more than anything.

Edit: KO in Round 12.

 

[Chrono.]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

 

[Chandeelure]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

I hate Ninlendo

 

[Wario Bros.]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

I thought that fake Twitter account got killed off when they posted Sun & Moon before the official announcement.

 

[Chrono.]

I thought that fake Twitter account got killed off when they posted Sun & Moon before the official announcement.

He disappears for a couple months and comes back when you least expect him.

He's like a hawk.

 

[Wolfie557]

LOOOOOOOOL.



Happy for all who wanted it.

edit: crap. I fell for it. I'm tired.

 

[A Distant Demon]

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This is cool on one hand but also I just recently bought Paper Mario on VC.

Alright peaople you heard the Dragon Quest stream

Are we really goin to let the French outfo us

Time to start a revolution for Paper Mario.


Quick! Someone make a catchy hashtag so it can get spread like crazy!
Someone make a petition!

Viva la revolucion!

 

[ElectroLightning]

Holy ℅@#+...

EDIT: Screw that guy.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

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How could this happen.

 

[ChikoLad]

Alright peaople you heard the Dragon Quest stream

Are we really goin to let the French outfo us

Time to start a revolution for Paper Mario.


Quick! Someone make a catchy hashtag so it can get spread like crazy!
Someone make a petition!

Viva la revolucion!

#RecyclePaperMario

Dunno if that's good but I tried.

 

[Chrono.]

LOOOOOOOOL.



Happy for all who wanted it.

edit: crap. I fell for it. I'm tired.

Sorry bro.

 

[Deleted member]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

If I hadn't noticed the term "Ninlendo", I would have checked the eShop in excitement only to be disappointed.

 

[Wolfie557]

Sorry bro.

it's cool I don't care for the game.

Alright peaople you heard the Dragon Quest stream

Are we really goin to let the French outfo us

Time to start a revolution for Paper Mario.


Quick! Someone make a catchy hashtag so it can get spread like crazy!
Someone make a petition!

Viva la revolucion!

#MarioOnPaper

 

[TTTTTsd]

Going crazy over E3 in more ways than one.



I don't need to play a game to see whether or not it looks like the world is interesting.

In an Adventure/RPG game, the world HAS to be interesting. If it isn't, why should I buy the game and explore it?

That's one of the fatal flaws of Paper Jam. You can tell me I should play it all you like and that I'm being unfair (though for the record, the gameplay is also meh and I have much better RPGs to play, both old, recent, and ones on Nintendo platforms), but a game's world HAS to draw you in before release if exploring it is a major focus. Paper Jam failed in that regard.

O...k? I guess the criteria is different between the two of us because I thought Paper Jam's gameplay was excellent and charming, and part of why Sticker Star's battle and action mechanics are just stuck in that underutilized limbo of "If this game had RPG mechanics the battle system would be above average!"

You could stand to sound less patronizing though, I genuinely do think people should play something (especially before they talk about the gameplay, that's bs. I don't talk about things gameplay-wise if I haven't played them, why do you think I even gave Fates a chance? I saw Pair Up and red flags were raised but they handled it well enough. I didn't smack it before or after it came out till I got it.) Same deal with Shovel Knight tbh, the game is amazing and I appreciate it now but I only really understood when I bought and played it, y'know? It's my peeve with the media these days because it removes that sense of discovery when it comes to a game, beyond like obvious trailer footage.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

TTYD is a bit overrated anyways.

As much as I love it, people won't shut up about it.

 

[ChikoLad]

O...k? I guess the criteria is different between the two of us because I thought Paper Jam's gameplay was excellent and charming, and part of why Sticker Star's battle and action mechanics are just stuck in that underutilized limbo of "If this game had RPG mechanics the battle system would be above average!"

You could stand to sound less patronizing though, I genuinely do think people should play something (especially before they talk about the gameplay, that's bs. I don't talk about things gameplay-wise if I haven't played them, why do you think I even gave Fates a chance? I saw Pair Up and red flags were raised but they handled it well enough. I didn't smack it before or after it came out till I got it.) Same deal with Shovel Knight tbh, the game is amazing and I appreciate it now but I only really understood when I bought and played it, y'know? It's my peeve with the media these days because it removes that sense of discovery when it comes to a game, beyond like obvious trailer footage.

I'm a game design student (technically ex-student at the moment, but it's not like I've given up the craft). I can just tell certain things about games without actually playing them. I perfectly understand if you think that's bull, but it's just the way it is, and my "intuition" is usually right. It helps me decide purchases.

That, and in the case of Paper Jam, it really isn't a very complex game. The average consumer isn't going to have trouble sussing it out.

I agree that journalists skew things a lot, but I simply looked at raw gameplay.

 

[Fenriraga]

is

is this suppose to be making fun of what I think it is

....why.

TTYD is a bit overrated anyways.

As much as I love it, people won't shut up about it.

I am using every fiber of my being to keep myself under control with that ludicrous statement.

 

[Kingslime304]

Ahahahaha ohhhhh man.

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Hurts doesn't it?

Well, he is the same guy that brought us this masterpiece:

 

[ElectroLightning]

TTYD is a bit overrated anyways.

As much as I love it, people won't shut up about it.

Everyone knows PM64 is better...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

TTYD is a bit overrated anyways.

As much as I love it, people won't shut up about it.

It's all Paper Mario Fans got

 

[ChikoLad]

DEM KOJIMA EMOTIONS #nakednorman #DeathStranding #mesctv pic.twitter.com/YsUnYSJene

— The Worst Show (@TheWorstShowOne) June 15, 2016

Precious.

 

[_Silver_]

TTYD is a bit overrated anyways.

As much as I love it, people won't shut up about it.

I still prefer Super. Mostly because I liked playing as Luigi, the writing, and the gameplay itself.

 

[Kingslime304]

Wait how to I fix my image?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

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This is cool on one hand but also I just recently bought Paper Mario on VC.

Please, anything to put an END to this controversy. It's actually starting to pull away at my sanity.

 

[Chrono.]

DEM KOJIMA EMOTIONS #nakednorman #DeathStranding #mesctv pic.twitter.com/YsUnYSJene

— The Worst Show (@TheWorstShowOne) June 15, 2016

Precious.

I gotta say, I've seen more Norman Reedus these past couple of days than I ever wanted to see.