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[praline]

I'd rather have guests from other third party series not another from an already picked series.

 

[Opossum]

Aside from my babbling on about caution when speculating and things to keep in mind. . .I have one character that I would happily welcome to Smash that I've wanted from the start.

Of course, the problem occurs when said character is essentially treated as gutter tier trash by the general Smash community to the point that Goku and Shrek get more respect than he does, but, uh. . .

Spoiler

If Tails ever got into Smash I would be a very happy person. . .At least until everyone started complaining about it the instant after. . .

I mean, if we got a second Sonic character, I'd want it to be either Tails or Eggman, since they're the most important IMO.

Though I'd personally prefer Eggman.

 

[Champ Gold]

Knuckles >>>> Tails for Smash, simply because memes and nothing else.
Meme magic (the mysticization (mystification?) of confirmation bias) supersedes personal preference.

Edit: oops forgot to tag Coricus

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I want Knuckles because he's better than Tails and isn't edgy as Shadow.

No memes necessary

 

[praline]

They should add ****ing Bomberman or Simon Belmont or Snake or anyone but another Sonic character.

 

[Jaedrik]

Edit: Buh?!

They should add ****ing Bomberman or Simon Belmont or Snake or anyone but another Sonic character.

 

[Fenriraga]

They should add ****ing Bomberman or Simon Belmont or Snake or anyone but another Sonic character.

Ha.

Konami characters.

That's a funny joke.

 

[Opossum]

They should add ****ing Bomberman or Simon Belmont or Snake or anyone but another Sonic character.

Personally I never got the Bomberman hype. Like, even among Konami characters there's so many I'd prefer.

Snake returning, Simon Belmont, Frogger, Bill Rizer, Sparkster...

 

[MainJPW]

Spoiler: Response for the sake of humor

Unfortunately I don't see myself having that kind of self restraint.

Darned if that doesn't sound like the logical thing to do, though. When it's your dream and everyone else's nightmare, there's not much else to do but either run for the bunker or watch the world burn.

This is funny to me for one reason, remember the Melee rumors?

If people thought that both Sonic and Tails were in Melee and didn't have much of a problem with it, even trying frantically to unlock them, why would it be a big problem to anyone if he got in today? What's different? With SEGA and Nintendo's closeness it should at least be understandable that some people would want the iconic sidekick.

....Plus it'd be another fan rule destroyed.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Aside from my babbling on about caution when speculating and things to keep in mind. . .I have one character that I would happily welcome to Smash that I've wanted from the start.

Of course, the problem occurs when said character is essentially treated as gutter tier trash by the general Smash community to the point that Goku and Shrek get more respect than he does, but, uh. . .

Spoiler

If Tails ever got into Smash I would be a very happy person. . .At least until everyone started complaining about it the instant after. . .

Ill be honest and say Sonic is imo enough

 

[Fenriraga]

I'd be more than down for Tails or another Sonic character. Yes, it's two third parties from the same series, boo hoo. Like it or not, Sonic is boarderline a 2nd party Nintendo character these days. We still have friggin 57 other characters, if not even one of them can satiasfy you then I don't know what to tell you.

And haven't we already established that Cloud broke just about all of the supposed 'unwritten rules'?

 

[Coricus]

Knuckles >>>> Tails for Smash, simply because memes and nothing else.
Meme magic (the mysticization (mystification?) of confirmation bias) supersedes personal preference.

Edit: oops forgot to tag Coricus

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The solution to this dilemma is clearly simple:

I must craft my choice into a proper memelord.

Failure is likely, but success would be glorious.

I'd rather have guests from other third party series not another from an already picked series.

If you weigh the characters by actual individual character value instead of by that of being from an "unrepresented series," Tails would probably rank head and shoulders above a large chunk of choices cited by various Smash fans.

. . .As would Chun-Li to a lesser extent, although she's not really relevant to my preferences. Worth noting, though. And Mrs. Pac-Man would be so to an even greater extent, but suffers from being nearly identical to her husband.

There's also a matter of ease of inclusion. Lara Croft may have more going for her, but look at how much content the one character from her current owners has compared to the other third party franchises and the comments about how said owners were fairly exacting. Sega and Nintendo work much better together than many companies.

That isn't to say there aren't more important characters that could be obtained, but taking into account popularity and ease of access the pool certainly shrinks a bit. Most of the more important characters left essentially boil down t- well I see you have the company in mind. But there's a definite tendency for people to over-value other third parties simply because they're "new." Judging by how Ryu and Bayonetta broke the "one per company" rule that everyone had set, that's probably not the main factor.


. . .At any rate, hearing "your character is a bad choice because they are" wears on a person after a few years.

 

[N3ON]

Apart from Snake (because grudges trump profit apparently) I still don't see why Konami, even with all their ****ery, wouldn't jump at the chance to include one of their other characters in Smash if approached.

Personally I never got the Bomberman hype. Like, even among Konami characters there's so many I'd prefer.

Snake returning, Simon Belmont, Frogger, Bill Rizer, Sparkster...

Bomberman fits so gooooood tho. And used to show up all the time on Nintendo. #opunions

This is funny to me for one reason, remember the Melee rumors?

If people thought that both Sonic and Tails were in Melee and didn't have much of a problem with it, even trying frantically to unlock them, why would it be a big problem to anyone if he got in today? What's different? With SEGA and Nintendo's closeness it should at least be understandable that some people would want the iconic sidekick.

....Plus it'd be another fan rule destroyed.

1) Most people stop having a problem with a character once they think they're actually in the game. Like Bayonetta or Cloud or Ryu or Snake.
2) Of the two characters in that "rumor", we've already got the one most people cared about getting.

And haven't we already established that Cloud broke just about all of the supposed 'unwritten rules'?

Snake broke the "rules", Cloud was just an extension of that. If anything Bayonetta broke the bigger "rule" at the time of the third-party having to be some sort of legendary gaming icon.

These "rules" of course just being precedence mixed with fan conjecture. As are most "rules" with Smash.

 

[Jaedrik]

The solution to this dilemma is clearly simple:

I must craft my choice into a proper memelord.

Failure is likely, but success would be glorious.


If you weigh the characters by actual individual character value instead of by that of being from an "unrepresented series," Tails would probably rank head and shoulders above a large chunk of choices cited by various Smash fans.

. . .As would Chun-Li to a lesser extent, although she's not really relevant to my preferences. Worth noting, though. And Mrs. Pac-Man would be so to an even greater extent, but suffers from being nearly identical to her husband.

There's also a matter of ease of inclusion. Lara Croft may have more going for her, but look at how much content the one character from her current owners has compared to the other third party franchises and the comments about how said owners were fairly exacting. Sega and Nintendo work much better together than many companies.

That isn't to say there aren't more important characters that could be obtained, but taking into account popularity and ease of access the pool certainly shrinks a bit. Most of the more important characters left essentially boil down t- well I see you have the company in mind. But there's a definite tendency for people to over-value other third parties simply because they're "new." Judging by how Ryu and Bayonetta broke the "one per company" rule that everyone had set, that's probably not the main factor.


. . .At any rate, hearing "your character is a bad choice because they are" wears on a person after a few years.

tfw liked and re-reading forgot I already liked and tried to like again.

Your mission as a memer is to spread the good news of top kek to achieve maximum keks. Pepespeed, agent Coricus.

Chun-Li gets my stamps of approval because those thighs tho

Same thing happened to me: anti-Anna arguments had no ground (as I clearly demonstrated in my Anna-support essay), yet they insisted she was a bad choice! Harumph!

 

[Fenriraga]

I still remember when it was a 'rule' that it would only be one 3rd party per company.

My how times have changed.

 

[Schnee117]

Unfortunately I don't see myself having that kind of self restraint.

Darned if that doesn't sound like the logical thing to do, though. When it's your dream and everyone else's nightmare, there's not much else to do but either run for the bunker or watch the world burn.

Believe me, I know how you feel about that. Just look at two of my most wanted.
Ridley and Master Chief would easily get loads of ire and post reveal **** slinging.
Ridley because of the whole "he's too big!" thing (Gargos pls)
Chief because he's MS owned and there's also Banjo.

....Plus it'd be another fan rule destroyed.

It was always a silly fan rule too.
At some point they'll run out of franchises to add so they'll have to revisit pre-established third parties to add more in.
And that's before we get to Sonic AND Final Fantasy being huge and having a vast wealth of characters to use.

Plus there's loads of other characters to play as. Is one character being from the same series as Sonic/Cloud really going to ruin a huge roster?

Cloud was just the reminder that being "close to Nintendo" meant jack ****.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

John Oliver for Smash. Only the haters will disagree

 

[Champ Gold]

Grudges does trump profit considering Sakurai doesn't want to go behind his best friend and ask for Kojima's characters from a company that treated him like ****


Sakurai and Kojima are bros so I don't ever see Snake in Smash unless Kojima was fine with it now and even then he doesn't have any say

 

[Autumn ♫]

If we got another Sega character, I'd personally want Jack Frost.
I know he's Atlus, but Bayonetta is owned by Platinum, and she's still Sega.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm having the worst day ever at work.

And just found out for the rest of the month I can only take a half lunch, including today.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Personally I never got the Bomberman hype. Like, even among Konami characters there's so many I'd prefer.

Snake returning, Simon Belmont, Frogger, Bill Rizer, Sparkster...

To be fair, Bomberman is only owned by Konami, not created by them. Many of the others were. It makes sense he doesn't feel much like a "Konami" character.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

All Konami ever did with Bomberman was cancel a 3DS game. Honestly, I pity the guy, such a fun little party game with spinoffs I've only heard good things of

 

[N3ON]

It's so easy to **** on fan rules once they've been broken.

Grudges does trump profit considering Sakurai doesn't want to go behind his best friend and ask for Kojima's characters from a company that treated him like ****


Sakurai and Kojima are bros so I don't ever see Snake in Smash unless Kojima was fine with it now and even then he doesn't have any say

I think it's pretty likely they tried to get Snake again for the ballot and were unsuccessful.

If we got another Sega character, I'd personally want Jack Frost.
I know he's Atlus, but Bayonetta is owned by Platinum, and she's still Sega.

If Bayonetta were owned solely be Platinum you wouldn't see Sega's name on the Bayonetta 2 stuff.

 

[Autumn ♫]

If we were to get another character from each 3rd party company in Smash, I'd probably go something like this.

Sega: Jack Frost Actually Hatsune Miku
Namco: Probably Lloyd. I don't have much experience with Namco Actually, Goku if he counts
Capcom: Phoenix Wright
Square Enix: Dragon Quest Hero

 

[Champ Gold]

If we got another Sega character, I'd personally want Jack Frost.
I know he's Atlus, but Bayonetta is owned by Platinum, and she's still Sega.

Technically Sega owns Bayonetta, not Platinum so she's still a Sega character. Although Platinum does have a last word in most cases


Like how Kamiya didn't want Bayo in Project X Zone 1&2 (Although he said he regrets that)

 

[Autumn ♫]

If Bayonetta were owned solely be Platinum you wouldn't see Sega's name on the Bayonetta 2 stuff.

That's my point. She's also owned by Sega, like Atlus is.

 

[Deleted member]

If we got another Sega character, I'd personally want Jack Frost.
I know he's Atlus, but Bayonetta is owned by Platinum, and she's still Sega.

Nope, Sega owns Bayo. There's a reason why you don't see Platinum's name in the title screen along with all the names of the companies that actually do (co-)own their IP's.

All Konami ever did with Bomberman was cancel a 3DS game. Honestly, I pity the guy, such a fun little party game with spinoffs I've only heard good things of

I know he had at least one mobile game as well, but that's pretty much it other than a Japanese Wii U eShop release of Bomberman '94.

 

[Coricus]

Personally I never got the Bomberman hype. Like, even among Konami characters there's so many I'd prefer.

Snake returning, Simon Belmont, Frogger, Bill Rizer, Sparkster...

My opinion on most characters ranges from indifference to requiring an adjustment period of watching people get hyped/bully new choices before I fully settle into getting used to them and either getting hyped with people or trying to protect the victims, but I will admit that I would probably enjoy Sparkster without any prompting.

Unfortunately even compared to my main personal choice he seems unlikely to me as he strikes me as a bit too obscure to actually be selected, especially with all the other much higher level characters from his company, but. . .yeah, I would in fact be up for Sparkster if that somehow happened.

*EDIT* Oh crud, he'd probably be yelled at for being another sword user, wouldn't he? . . .bah, forget those people. Jetpack opossums are more important than petty fan complaints. He's got more new they could do with him than a lot of characters I see requested.

 

[Lord Dio]

Sooo for theology homework, I have to fill out a chart of current issues and what the presidential candidates and the catechism say about those issues.
I'm having a field day with immigration.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Just remember, when you think you're as down as you can get

You can always go 6 feet under

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

As for why I don't want more than one Sonic character, I consider each 3rd party franchise to be special and a guest. They deserve great content, but I feel that they don't count as 1st or 2nd party, and should be given one character max.

That said, it's definitely a fan rule. Now, Sakurai has noted he doesn't want to overrepresent franchises before, but I don't think that applies to 3rd parties really. He may have another reason for doing so. It's also possible securing more than one 3rd party character per franchise is rather difficult. Do remember that Sonic didn't get into Brawl easily.

And yeah, many Sonic characters are iconic enough to deserve a spot alone(Knuckles, Eggman, Tails, Shadow. Amy and Metal Sonic are a bit lower on the scale, but definitely notable).

 

[A Distant Demon]

there are 2 rosters on page 1198.

Both have Viridi and ridley.

Today is a good day.

 

[N3ON]

I'd rather get a second Sonic character over a seventh FE character.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

As for why I don't want more than one Sonic character, I consider each 3rd party franchise to be special and a guest. They deserve great content, but I feel that they don't count as 1st or 2nd party, and should be given one character max.

That said, it's definitely a fan rule. Now, Sakurai has noted he doesn't want to overrepresent franchises before, but I don't think that applies to 3rd parties really. He may have another reason for doing so. It's also possible securing more than one 3rd party character per franchise is rather difficult. Do remember that Sonic didn't get into Brawl easily.

And yeah, many Sonic characters are iconic enough to deserve a spot alone(Knuckles, Eggman, Tails, Shadow. Amy and Metal Sonic are a bit lower on the scale, but definitely notable).

If they ever do costumes metal sonic could be that

 

[Bananija]

Personally, I would take Eggman over Tails? I like the flying fox, but I'm just biased toward Eggman and villains in general. Plus, hearing Mike Pollock's melodious voice in Smash would be great.

 

[Coricus]

I'd rather get a second Sonic character over a seventh FE character.

I find that both would fit my preferences better than a myriad of other characters that are regularly requested, depending on the selections made of course.

Of course, I'd rather not see them dip into Fire Emblem further for a while, but that's more because I'm tired of people ripping into the series and would prefer people stop scapegoating everything and simply be satisfied for once. There's certainly more popular choices they could go for, even if they may not be the same as the choices people think are more popular and falsely blame Fire Emblem for not getting.

. . .Honestly, if they can find a choice that people largely won't complain about, that would be great. That only seems to happen if a character's approval rating on forums is above 50% though and the only ones that lucky this time around were Mega Man and Mewtwo, both of which are now playable.

 

[Champ Gold]

I'd rather get a second Sonic character over a seventh FE character.

I'll take anything over another FE character atleast (well there's a few exceptions)



I still want my Chun-Li, Knuckles, Mimikyu, Dixie Kong and Elma

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If they ever do costumes metal sonic could be that

I'm sad he wasn't a costume in Brawl or 4. Although he does have some unique animations, but he'd work fine as an alt.

Considering how most of Sonic's costumes are barely different, it's fairly clear that Sega is picky about the Sonic series stuff in general. Maybe this is why we never got a second Sonic character? I mean, we did see Square Enix give little content to Final Fantasy(although maybe it's cause they overpriced their stuff. Which isn't too surprising if so).

 

[Coricus]

Personally, I would take Eggman over Tails? I like the flying fox, but I'm just biased towards Eggman and villains in general. Plus hearing Mike Pollock's melodious voice in Smash would be great.

They should have Sonic themed Codec/Guidance type interactions in Smash to cover that. Would probably get more conversation than hit grunts would.

And then have crossover interactions with the Kid Icarus characters for theirs.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Sega: Jack Frost

Dont you mean Atlus?
I mean... he is Altus.s official mascot

 

[Deleted member]

I have been gone all day because of the second day of national exams but the last thing I saw before 5 hours of torture was the whole "to vote or not to vote" and from what I can understamd, is voting not mandatory in the US? If that's the case, are there even jobs or schools that don't allow someone to go out and vote? If so, that's worse than the indirect voting