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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
    111
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Just finished Gravity Falls. LOVED it! The mystery, comedy, action, development, everything was great! I only have a single major criticism
Bill Cipher
Bill's a very entertaining character to watch, yes, but as a villain, I feel like he's very ineffective. For starters, he can only change dreams at first, meaning nothing he does affects reality. But...The deer teeth he gave to Gideon weren't in a dream. Also, if he had simply used his ability to control the mind effectively, the Pines twins wouldn't have been ABLE to find out they could fight back! His second appearance is when he possessed Dipper. "I KNOW LOTS OF THINGS" apparently doesn't include **** about human anatomy. He thinks it's funny to inflict self-harm at first, but if Bill was smart, he wouldn't have done that. As multiple injuries hurt overtime, meaning they'd HINDER Bill, who isn't immune to human weaknesses when possessing a human. And when Weirdmaggedon happens, there IS a justified reason for him not being able to do whatever he wants. However, if he can control matter and wanted the Pines dead, simply use the ability to control MATTER to bring them to you and THEN kill them. "But there wouldn't be a happy ending" you may say, which while true, doesn't justify Bill being a moron. You can change ANYTHING about reality with very few exceptions, why run after the twins after they provokes you instead of, y'know, CHANGING REALITY SO THEY LITERALLY CAN NOT ESCAPE AND GET BROUGHT TO YOU? Shame such an entertaining villain ended up being quite stupid
 

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We spent 3-5 years speculating a single game most here have already lost interest in, but we/our generation can't take an hour to read/watch up on an election that will effect the world for the 4+ years?

That's because this is a video game forum. People don't come here specifically to engage in political debates, and most would rather keep their votes confidential for reasons there's only.
 

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That's because this is a video game forum. People don't come here specifically to engage in political debates, and most would rather keep their votes confidential for reasons there's only.
Also would like to note that this specific forum is about a video game series that is marketed as being "12+", and most people who would sign up for a forum of this kind are still in their teens and can't legally vote anyway.

People here were passionate about something like the Smash Ballot as opposed to a political election because they could actually vote on the former. It doesn't necessarily mean they didn't care at all about politics, but their opinions on the matter wouldn't mean much here because most people here can't vote, or just legally became capable of voting and might feel daunted by the prospect.
 

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Why would anyone feel too daunted to vote?
Most people who have just become of age to vote are probably also going through tough exams for school or college at that time. They could also have other personal matters going on. So trying to solidify their thoughts on political matters at the exact same time might be a bit much. They also may not technically be qualified to speak on certain matters even if they are legally of age to vote. For example, if a politician is promising certain things regarding pay/taxes for working people, someone who's only 18 years old probably can't really make a very good call on whether or not what a politician promises on these matters is actually good, because they haven't had to do either yet.

Of course, the truth to what I just said will vary depending on what the legal age of voting is for different countries. But here in Ireland, the legal age for voting is 18, which also happens to be when a lot of people are doing their Leaving Cert or trying to get into college. Most Irish people also won't have been employed before 18 either, and are still living with their parents. There are a lot of matters that are relevant to voting for a politician that someone of that age just doesn't have the experience or knowledge to have a real say on yet.
 

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The current elections in America are not something I can participate in since I'm not an American citizen, so I won't speak on that specifically.

But by principle, saying not voting on a political election, whatever the reason may be, is the "idiot's way out", is really harsh and is a form of projection. That's also one of a politician's best tools.

"To vote or not to vote" is a choice for a reason.
People can be busy in their every day lives, and it is understandably the main reason people don't vote. Life happens, and that's not what my post is meant to address.

I apologize for the harsh tone if anyone thinks I was calling them out specifically. That said, if "To vote or not to vote" is indeed a completely independent choice and have the means to go vote, one of the options is lazier than other, and I have no issue with calling that out especially if it stems from a lack of knowledge.

As for projection, you're not wrong in the same sense that even the best of intentions have ulterior motives behind them. Democrats LOVE high turn out. Republicans LOVE low turn out. IMO people should at least be educated to know enough about their preferred candidate be it Trump/Clinton/Johnson/Stein/That One Guy in Utah and that a vote is a protest not the other way around.
 

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In my opinion? Look at our options. We have two, and we all know they both are terrible humans to begin with. That's daunting enough for some.
I suppose that's true.

(I feel bad for those whose first vote to cast is going to be this election. This is going to leave a sour taste in the mouth for a lot of first time voters.

Most people who have just become of age to vote are probably also going through tough exams for school or college at that time. They could also have other personal matters going on. So trying to solidify their thoughts on political matters at the exact same time might be a bit much. They also may not technically be qualified to speak on certain matters even if they are legally of age to vote. For example, if a politician is promising certain things regarding pay/taxes for working people, someone who's only 18 years old probably can't really make a very good call on whether or not what a politician promises on these matters is actually good, because they haven't had to do either yet.

Of course, the truth to what I just said will vary depending on what the legal age of voting is for different countries. But here in Ireland, the legal age for voting is 18, which also happens to be when a lot of people are doing their Leaving Cert or trying to get into college. Most Irish people also won't have been employed before 18 either, and are still living with their parents. There are a lot of matters that are relevant to voting for a politician that someone of that age just doesn't have the experience or knowledge to have a real say on yet.
Tbh, I don't think voting is any different from, buying a game. By the time a game releases, you at least have a vague idea whether or not it's worth your money. The same goes for a vote. The way mass media has been playing up this election means you have some idea of what Trump and Hillary stand for, even if you haven't been paying a lot of attention. You don't have to be super-qualified or knowledgeable to vote. It's as simple as "I like/dislike this person." If you watch the news at least once a week or so, I believe you know enough to be not blindly voting.

A high voter turnout is essential for a healthy democracy. Especially because it means politicians can't get away with a lot of stuff, and it ensures that people's rights aren't trampled on.
 

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People can be busy in their every day lives, and it is understandably the main reason people don't vote. Life happens, and that's not what my post is meant to address.

I apologize for the harsh tone if anyone thinks I was calling them out specifically. That said, if "To vote or not to vote" is indeed a completely independent choice and have the means to go vote, one of the options is lazier than other, and I have no issue with calling that out especially if it stems from a lack of knowledge.

As for projection, you're not wrong in the same sense that even the best of intentions have ulterior motives behind them. Democrats LOVE high turn out. Republicans LOVE low turn out. IMO people should at least be educated to know enough about their preferred candidate be it Trump/Clinton/Johnson/Stein/That One Guy in Utah and that a vote is a protest not the other way around.
For me personally, if even after weighing all of the options in an election and doing my research, if none of the options resonate with me and I can't believe in any of them, I still won't vote.

Like, if given the choice between voting for Trump or Hilary, I wouldn't vote for either because I don't believe in either to do good for the country. Hilary may seem like the lesser of two evils for me, but my vote would still feel shallow and empty to me if I did vote for her. I'd rather leave it to the people who can at least get properly behind one or the other. Voting is a vouch of support for a candidate, and I'm not going to offer that if I don't ACTUALLY support either.

I'm 21 and still haven't voted on anything political because of that, none of the politicians in my country have ever promised anything that resonated with me personally, nor they haven't promised anything that seems particularly great for the wider population either.

The only vote I missed out on and could have voted on that I regret not voting on, was the vote for legalising gay marriage in Ireland. While I'm not sure I was actually able to (I only turned 18 the year it was happening and apparently the process for registering to vote in Ireland can take a few months to actually get your approval to vote, so I might have missed this even if I did register), I still feel bad that I never got around to registering. It just sort of slipped my mind until it was too late, and I did have a strong stance on the matter. Though at least the side I would have voted for ended up winning anyway, so that softened the blow a bit.

I suppose that's true.

(I feel bad for those whose first vote to cast is going to be this election. This is going to leave a sour taste in the mouth for a lot of first time voters.


Tbh, I don't think voting is any different from, buying a game. By the time a game releases, you at least have a vague idea whether or not it's worth your money. The same goes for a vote. The way mass media has been playing up this election means you have some idea of what Trump and Hillary stand for, even if you haven't been paying a lot of attention. You don't have to be super-qualified or knowledgeable to vote. It's as simple as "I like/dislike this person." If you watch the news at least once a week or so, I believe you know enough to be not blindly voting.

A high voter turnout is essential for a healthy democracy. Especially because it means politicians can't get away with a lot of stuff, and it ensures that people's rights aren't trampled on.
I disagree, I do feel like you should only vote if you actually can form an educated opinion on at least some of the matters relevant to the vote.

Listening to just the speeches and promises from the politicians themselves isn't enough, you need to understand the gravity of the things they are saying and think about it a bit, and not just take it at face value. Because ultimately, what you vote on could change things for yourself and everyone around you. You shouldn't take that lightly. For someone who's only turned 18, it might be a good to get some information from their parents and relatives and other elder figures, regarding matters they might not fully understand yet.
 
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I disagree, I do feel like you should only vote if you actually can form an educated opinion on at least some of the matters relevant to the vote.

Listening to just the speeches and promises from the politicians themselves isn't enough, you need to understand the gravity of the things they are saying and think about it a bit, and not just take it at face value. Because ultimately, what you vote on could change things for yourself and everyone around you. You shouldn't take that lightly. For someone who's only turned 18, it might be a good to get some information from their parents and relatives and other elder figures, regarding matters they might not fully understand yet.
I suppose a single vote in Ireland or the US carries a lot more weight than a single vote in India.

Though in general, I've seen that people here are lot less apathetic about politics. Voter turnout is pretty high (>60%) among the middle classes and the poor.
 

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Youtube is actually doing something good
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Finally, no more important videos about how Atlus is making a game for cuck babies because the slightly changed the boxart for it
Oh boy, here comes the "YouTube is a censorship tyrant" controversy...
 

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Same here. I don't like her, but I don't really see how she's bad enough to not warrant a vote when the competition is what it is. Not that I can't see the appeal of Trump/Johnson/Stein.

As for those choosing not to vote, I think they need to watch this:

Warning: NFSW

tldw: Having a cynical mind is born from being informed. Saying it's all bad or not caring "because politics" is the idiot's way out and is one of the politician's best tools for getting elected.

We spent 3-5 years speculating a single game most here have already lost interest in, but we/our generation can't take an hour to read/watch up on an election that will effect the world for the 4+ years?

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Wholeheartedly agree. Inform yourselves at the very least, folks. :p

And don't forget to vote for statewide or local things either. For me, it's just as important as the presidency, since smaller areas of control, senate and house especially, can affect how a presidency goes. So yes, McGinty for PA senator to get Toomey out of there. And Mike Molesevich for house since he'd do a much better job than Marino.
For me, anyway.

Because like I said, there's only so much a potential president can do if Congress isn't in sync.
 

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In this particular election, it might be better if the president isn't allowed to do much.
For me it very much hinges on who gets in as president.

Free secondary education to low income families, mandated police reform, or increased incentives or mandates for clean energy/penalties for fossil fuels? Awesome things that Clinton's all for, but a mostly republican congress would block them in an instant. Tax cuts for the rich, increased police power (including proposing unconstitutional methods), refusal to change our energy issues, and an attack on the first amendment's right to freedom of the press? All things Trump would love to push that I'm highly against and would be very worried about if Congress were on his side.
 

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I suppose a single vote in Ireland or the US carries a lot more weight than a single vote in India.

Though in general, I've seen that people here are lot less apathetic about politics. Voter turnout is pretty high (>60%) among the middle classes and the poor.
I won't pretend I'm the most political person out there as I am far from it. Right now, it's hard for me to get passionate about a politician.

But I do try to have my own personal standards regarding research so that I'm not making uninformed decisions if I do eventually decide to vote on something.
 

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Really hate when the cars in front of me force me to go the speed limit
1. I hope you're not telling us this the exact moment it's happening...

2. Better the speed limit than forcing you to slam on your brakes because they stop for no apparent reason...
 

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Wholeheartedly agree. Inform yourselves at the very least, folks. :p

And don't forget to vote for statewide or local things either. For me, it's just as important as the presidency, since smaller areas of control, senate and house especially, can affect how a presidency goes. So yes, McGinty for PA senator to get Toomey out of there. And Mike Molesevich for house since he'd do a much better job than Marino.
For me, anyway.

Because like I said, there's only so much a potential president can do if Congress isn't in sync.
I guess, but Congress has little control over foreign policy, and Obama was able to get a lot done through executive orders that go around the system. To be honest, we might as well be one Gulf of Tonkin/Terrorist moment away from emergency powers.

Don't forget we're also voting for a 9th Supreme Court member as well. Pretty much all 3 Branches are up for grabs.

I feel bad for Garland, a centrist who's been praised on both sides is being held back by the Gun Lobby...I'd much rather see him on the court than anyone from either Clinton or Trump.
 

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For me it very much hinges on who gets in as president.

Free secondary education to low income families, mandated police reform, or increased incentives or mandates for clean energy/penalties for fossil fuels? Awesome things that Clinton's all for, but a mostly republican congress would block them in an instant. Tax cuts for the rich, increased police power (including proposing unconstitutional methods), refusal to change our energy issues, and an attack on the first amendment's right to freedom of the press? All things Trump would love to push that I'm highly against and would be very worried about if Congress were on his side.
. . .

. . .I know this is sidetracking, but thinking on clean energy for a second. . .

I hope they don't mandate -every- kind of clean energy in that case, although they probably would anyway.

Dams and geothermal aren't the only clean energy sources with environmental hazard issues. Wind turbines cut through the air so hard that they cause massive noise pollution and kill migratory birds out of the sky, and solar mirror arrays cook the immediate area to the point that birds fry out of the sky like Pit at the five minute and one second mark and no one can live nearby. If they have the misfortune of putting something like those near an endangered species of bird, they could end up causing an extinction by trying to do the right thing.

The only heavily spoken of clean energy I've seen so far that actually does it's job right is the smaller solar panels like the ones people put on their roofs. I'm not against clean energy, but I think people are too quick to jump into it without considering the environmental and societal complications of some forms of it. Basically people are so desperate for something to rescue them from fossil fuels that they blindly charge in without checking to see if it will backfire.

If folks want to spread solar panels around more often though then I'm a-OK with that, though, it seems like the one heavily discussed form of energy currently being used that doesn't have major drawbacks. . .that I've heard of, anyway.
 

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1. I hope you're not telling us this the exact moment it's happening...

2. Better the speed limit than forcing you to slam on your brakes because they stop for no apparent reason...
They do both.

Also don't use turn signals

Also turn into your lane without looking
 

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Oh, is it the clock-fiddling time for countries that follow DST?

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I'm one of the few people here who is in the blue, I'm guessing.
As someone with 27 working clocks it is a pain in the butt :p
Also DST sucks; it is dark as hell at 5pm already, making us to use lights for more time during day.
The only advantage is that sunrise is earlier; benefitting people on early morning work shifts.
 
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