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It’s definitely interesting, I’ll give you that. I would be cool with more random Smash inclusions like Rambi. The moveset looks like fun too. If we can get characters like Pirahna Plant in Ultimate, I say why not?BirthNote
What do you think of having an animal buddy as a fighter?
I remember seeing this way back years ago.
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Playing as a rhino would be unexpected but fun.
Make it Squawks, and maybe I'll consider...
What do you think of having an animal buddy as a fighter?
I remember seeing this way back years ago.
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Playing as a rhino would be unexpected but fun.
Well, in theory, yeah, but practically he was always the third wheel (or fourth if you include Byleth).
I'm a bit late to the convo here, but I'd say that Nester's only shot at getting into Smash is via his Lark persona from Pilotwings.
Oh, that reminds me, do we know if Pilotwings 64 is coming to Japan as part of NSO? That might help boost the game's notability, as I don't think it released there originally. Granted, I doubt it'd get more than a song in Smash, but you never know...
This honestly looks like it would come from one of Sakurai's concept documents.Hello everyone, after a hiatus I've returned with a new idea for Dixie Kong.
This entry is another for the Super Hair category, which covers Hair Attacks that defy physics in a more cartoony manner, whether it's a case of flying or drilling. Speaking of which:
Dixie spins her hair like a drill and rushes forward! As she keeps low to the ground, her ponytail impales foes whilst drilling into them, racking up damage and carrying them through the trajectory. Enemies take more damage at the point of impact, and take weaker continuous damage as they're carried unwillingly by the drill.
This differs from Meta Knight's Drill Rush it can't be angled while Dixie runs but it can be stopped early. However, the endlag is notable as whenever Dixie stops her momentum will cause her to slide a bit, so while you do have another brand of Kongicide you can inflict on foes, using this on the edge of a Walk-Off Stage is risky even without a victim.
This move is inspired by Meta Knight's Side B, Greninja's Running Animation and Dixie's Swimming Animation from Tropical Freeze. Thanks to her using her hair as a drill in that, Drill-Like attacks are now on the table. It seems there are many ways to spin a ponytail.
If anyone wants an idea of potential options for Dixie, I have a Google Doc covering a myriad of ideas that grows ever so slightly. The more high quality images are closer to the bottom.
There's also the old Smash Ultimate thread for Dixie as well.
Dixie Kong Moveset by Andrew C
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Very well thought out, creative and shows the versatility of Dixie's ponytail. Excellent work!i beg to differ. in his route dimitri is the "3rd" wheel
Pilotwings 64 did come out in Japan and yes, it's coming to Japanese NSO as well.
Man, Marvelous has been too bitter with Natsume. And that's why there are separated.Pilotwings 64 did come out in Japan and yes, it's coming to Japanese NSO as well.
I'm honestly flattered! Thank youThis honestly looks like it would come from one of Sakurai's concept documents.
This is so excellent. Even though it's heavily reliant on the horn (duh) I'm still wowed by the creativity here. Should make one reconsider whenever somebody claims there's no moveset potential. A lack of reference material isn't the same as having no moveset potential. You'd have to basically be like a Tetris block or something for me to think you... had... no...
What do you think of having an animal buddy as a fighter?
I remember seeing this way back years ago.
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Playing as a rhino would be unexpected but fun.
Yeah, I totally agree. I think pretty much any character can be made to have a fun moveset if enough thought and creativity is put into it so I never really count “no moveset potential” as a disqualifier for anyone. Just going by my own personal preference, I like it when the character has a lot of fun and unique skills they can pull directly from their games to make it feel like you’re actually playing them straight out of the game they’re from but there’s also a lot of merit in coming up with fun and creative new attacks that still fit the character and would allow them to fit into a game like Smash.
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sometimes i think sakurai has selective creativity
Now that she had her whole musician portrayal in Odyssey, I think something could probably be done with that. We don’t really have a character focused on music at the moment to my knowledge.It's less about "moveset potential" and more about "can the character dance in Sakurai's head", as he put it in this interview.
“Are The Characters Dancing?” Sakurai’s Famitsu column vol. 430– on Wii Fit Trainer, Megaman, Villager, and a little Chrom
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That's why something like Rosalina or Wii Fit Trainer can work awhile arguably other characters like Pauline or Dr. Kawashima don't. Rosalina for example doesn't really do a whole lot in the Galaxy games but she's still a powerful cosmic space entity of some kind that raises a family of space children, so it's actually pretty easy to make a Smash Bros. moveset for her with a little bit of creativity on Sakurai's part. Meanwhile someone like Pauline is just some regular old human who...sings. Not nearly that much to work with there.
well he doesn’t really do tropes. Apart from inceneroar
It at least gives us a starting point to work with. Pauline never did much before that point, unfortunately.
since when was that a problem?
It’s not really a problem, but it’s better to at least have some basis to start building a moveset around. Like I said, with enough creativity, you can make a moveset for pretty much anything but if a character has a trait that makes them stand out in any way (in this case, her musical talents in Odyssey), it might make sense to start there in order to make the character feel a bit more true to themselves and not just a random moveset.
Oh he DEFINITELY does
. Based on that excerpt if he's not feeling it he won't bother.
Yeah, it originally released in Japan in 1996, and it's (FINALLY) getting re-released worldwide (including Japan) on the NSO before this year comes to an end. I will say this, I think we better get ready for a whole slew of Robin/Hooter fanart...
Hm... was there any particularly notable people involved? As in, the kind that would hold partial ownership over their contribution (i.e. the composer holding partial rights to the music, or the character designer holding partial rights to the designs)?
That is probably the reason why he initially rejected the idea of PAC-MAN, and why Ike was chosen (he fitted an archetype he had in mind, as far as I remember)Oh he DEFINITELY does
That was just because Bamco wanted to push-up The Ghostly Adventures to the extreme.
Ironically, all they had to do was wait 10 years, and the memes would do it for them...
Actually no, you're mixing things up a bit here. Back in Brawl, Miyamoto actually suggested adding Pac-Man, but Sakurai quickly dismissed it as a joke because he couldn't envision how he'd fight in his iconic pizza slice design. During Smash 4 he changed his tune on Pac-Man (as well as the likes of Villager and the Miis, who were also previously dismissed during Brawl), and was only then worried about whether he'd need to use the Ghostly Adventures design. Thankfully, Bandai-Namco were fully supportive of using the classic look from the get-go.
do what?
Cursa alt for Rosalina next game?
Have a corrupted/possessed Rosalina as the main villain of a Mario game
like what happened to peach 18 years ago?
Yeah, that's fair. I probably should've specified modern Nintendo.
I think that later argument is super disingenuous. Smash is no stranger to letting characters borrow aspects from other characters in their series. Rosalina, despite being this powerful cosmic space entity, still borrows from Mario's Galaxy moveset in her own moveset. Star Bits, her Grand Star Final Smash, Launch Star, and Gravitational Pull all were lifted from Mario and repurposed for Rosalina. This is not just something for Rosalina, we have seen this plenty of other times. Zelda's moveset was pretty much made up as a sorceress when she did not display much magical feats outside of restraining Ganon. She even borrows Link's magic spells from Ocarina of Time. Ness and Lucas borrow spells in their movesets from their party members. This is not even counting characters where their movesets were more or less made up in Smash to better fit a motif rather than outright represent the series. It took until Smash 4 for DK to even get his Roll as his Dash Attack. Ganon did not get his sword for any attacks until Ultimate. The Star Fox characters and Captain Falcon chose to focus on themes of their games to represent how it would feel for an F Zero or Star Fox character to be in smash rather than directly putting in an Arwing or the Blue Falcon.It's less about "moveset potential" and more about "can the character dance in Sakurai's head", as he put it in this interview.
“Are The Characters Dancing?” Sakurai’s Famitsu column vol. 430– on Wii Fit Trainer, Megaman, Villager, and a little Chrom
Note: Do not repost the full translation. Please use the first two paragraphs and link to this translation. For additional information, please read this post. Think About the Video Games, vol. 430,…
That's why something like Rosalina or Wii Fit Trainer can work awhile arguably other characters like Pauline or Dr. Kawashima don't. Rosalina for example doesn't really do a whole lot in the Galaxy games but she's still a powerful cosmic space entity of some kind that raises a family of space children, so it's actually pretty easy to make a Smash Bros. moveset for her with a little bit of creativity on Sakurai's part. Meanwhile someone like Pauline is just some regular old human who...sings. Not nearly that much to work with there.
Well... If I'm remembering this correctly, Paradigm Simulation (a computer graphics company from the 90's) co-developed the game with Nintendo EAD. While they ARE defunct now, maybe someone on that team had owned some/most of the assets? That's my guess anyways.
Sounds like one of those things where we'd need somebody like DidYouKnowGaming to try and figure it out...
Then explain the Elite Beat Agents trophy in Brawl.
It was the US version of the existing Ouendan games, so I assume Sakurai gave that a pass based on that.
