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Here's the translation:
Based on the translations, it's apparently a new game that's been highly requested of them (assuming I remember it right).
Any indication of Nintendo involvement, though? That would be the most surefire indicator of this being for S&P vs. another Treasure IP. Hopefully we'll find out soon, because this could be both fascinating and exciting if it pans out as S&P.
Oh boy - Wario World 2!
New S&P would be a dream but it's not the only beloved game they have. Yall sleepin on
That's... kinda the problem. We don't know exactly what it is. The closest I can think of is that it's probably NOT Ikaruga-related: apparently, they've been spending the past few years doing nothing but rereleases of that...
Gunstar Heroes is consistently regarded as one of the greatest games on the Mega Drive, and is absolutely more well-known and well-regarded and more of a flagship title for Treasure than S&P is IMO (and i say that as someone who'd LOVE for it to be S&P). Treating it like just yet another dead SEGA IP is kinda doing it a disservice, and to be honest, the immediate assumption going around that it has to be S&P comes across as a bit of Nintendo bias to me
Sin and Punishment is the most recognizable Treasure IP, but that's mostly because of Saki's appearance in Smash as an Assist Trophy.
Let's see, Sin & Punishment, Wario World, Gunstar Heroes, Guardian Heroes, Radiant Silvergun, Ronald McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure, etc. Regardless, I certainly hope it's decently big, cause man, I don't know what had happened to Treasure for a long time and that needs to change.
Wait isnt Mischief Makers a Treasure IP?
All I know is that they apparently did nothing but rerelease Ikaruga during a good chunk of that time...
i never played sin & punishment but arent there like other character that can simply be an alt skin for Saki so in this case multiple characters get represented from the series?
He's one of the two main playable characters. And central to the plot. How is that "barely in his own game"?
Saki and Airan are the two characters you play as in the original S&P, with Saki more important as he's the key to the villain Achi's plan. In the Wii sequel, the main protag is Isa Jo, the son of Saki and Airan, and the villain Achi from the first game is also playable.
Deservingly, by the way. Star Successor is one of the very best arcade shooters ever made and never got nearly enough recognition for it.
I mean, not really? For the first third, you play as him. The second third, you play as Airan trying to get to Saki when he transforms and then start travelling within his psyche, thoughts, whatever to get him out of his transformation. Then the last third, you play as Saki again and then later transform into a more controlled state to fight the final boss.
If Saki gets an Echo or Alt, it'd probably be Isa since both use the same weapon(or very similar weapons) and they both have the transformation form. And both could probably give each other the Simon/Richter treatment where some of Isa's moves in his game can be given to Saki and vice-versa.
I agree that representing Saki+Isa is much more likely than Saki+Airan. I was just pointing out that Airan could hypothetically be an alt provided that the Ruffian form is confined to the Final Smash, and that making Isa an Echo/alt would require a little more thought to pull off.
Here's the thing though.
S&P is "highly requested"?
Definitely not Doom Slayer with the popularity and impact his series has on the industry.
why did he get covid?
I assume it has something to do with the fact that literally none of the DLC third party outfits introduced in Smash 4 (Geno, Lloyd, Heihachi, Monster Hunter, etc) were given the upgrade treatment in all of Ultimate (unlike say, K. Rool, Chrom, Isabelle and Inkling in the base game).
I don't see any FPS rep as likely due to the genre's nonexistence on the Japanese market.
I'm seen some people act like doomsayers, claiming that if a third party character becomes a Mii costume, then they're stuck that way forever. Two examples (Smash 4 and Smash Ultimate) isn't a pattern, and yet some people act like it's permanent and the developers will never change their minds and will stubbornly decide to leave characters that were explicitly stated to be fan favourites as Mii costumes in all future Smash games.
Finally, the next Smash reveal...
All of that could be explained though;
If that was the case, they wouldn't have even bothered with a Mii costume at all. Besides, Doom actually does have a fanbase in Japan, so it does have some recognition. Even Sakurai acknowledges how significant it is to video games.
I can understand if this pattern was used for one game but definitely not for the rest of the series. Kazuya alone should have been enough to show that a third-party series can indeed go from being represented by a Mii costume in one game to being represented by a playable character in the next and in the case of Doom, there's no better rep for the series than Doom Slayer himself.
And now he’s owned by the same company that owns the much more iconic Master Chief.
Considering that we got two separate Microsoft characters before Master Chief, I'm not sure if that means much.
"Much more iconic" is debatable. But no matter what, nobody can deny or erase the impact Doom had on the industry.
And to add to that, Halo not only has zero content in Smash but also no games on Nintendo consoles at all.
Sure, but, those were also VERY different types of characters.
Tekken, sure. Soul Calibur? No, Tales is the more popular series, especially in Namco's eyes.
