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Unfortunately not. Still just the name, the game, and Nintendo's copyright (alongside Game Freak and Pokemon Company on the Scarlet/Violet OST).
I think he's really slept on. Atlus will license Persona to anyone who passes them a crisp $20, Sakurai clearly likes the character, Persona 5 only becomes more iconic over time, and Joker is one of the most popular Ultimate newcomers.
I just think they used the convenience of her scoring well in the ballot to save on negotiations
As a Joker main myself, i doubt it.
I wouldn't say rigged but more likely is that the developers saw her high votes early on and picked her so the character can be done by the December 2015 Direct. Also Sega licensing which is another factor since Nintendo doesn't own the IP. If she was picked after October 2015 which was when the ballot ended then it's likely that she would have been revealed much later such as in 2016 because making a unique character takes time.
I actually disagree, there was a definite "vibe switch" around the time Joker joined Smash and I'd argue it was one of the most successful introductions of a series to a new audience through Smash. Persona became more beloved among a ton of Nintendo fans and eventually made its way onto the Switch to be experienced by even more.
I feel like this could just open the door for Joker to be base game while ATLUS could push for Aigis or Will to be DLC though, couldn't it? Sorta like Cloud and Sephiroth in Ultimate.
Yeah, I find this more likely than replacing him outright. Like... mayyyybe Aigis could take Joker's place as later DLC, I guess, but Will probably not. Metaphor is its own thing so if Sakurai / Nintendo feels so compelled to platform it (Switch 2 title maybe?) then it'll probably just join alongside Persona rather than being an outright replacement. I'm not sure if we're really at that point with Metaphor yet, and I haven't played it, but I would be ok with that.
I don't think Nintendo cross-promoted Q2 with Joker's dlc pack at all beyond maybe a link on his smash website page?; regardless, I fully believe that Metaphor will show up on Switch 2... at some point, hopefully sooner than how long it took the Persona games to make the jump lmao
They could just use his inclusion to advertise a Switch 2 port.
I mean I'm almost certain it'll end up on Switch 2 eventually alongside Persona 3 Reload, so I don't think it really matters that it's not there yet lol
That line of thinking continually disappointed people during DLC
The list could theoretically also include some of the Assist Trophies since lot of them were likely highly voted but weren’t picked for priority reasons.
While not outright confirmed, I think the main reason Daisy was an Echo was due to the Ballot as well.
This too.
Namely Isaac.
I feel like Dante's popularity took off much later than that, before Byleth was revealed. V's voice actor from DMC5 mentioned that he wanted his character to "be in MvC and Smash Bros. like Dante is gonna be" and speculation and support really kicked up from there. I think the mii costume was a reaction to that support, but I could be wrong.
See, I'm willing to bet that things like Daisy, Inkling, Isabelle and the assist trophy crew probably did really well. But I don't I think we ever got confirmation of those being popular choices. I'm trying to list characters confirmed to do well on the ballot.
See this is why I wasn't too sure. Shantae and Lloyd probably did do well on the ballot. I could believe Dante did well too. But Dragonborn? That's a harder pill to swallow. That's why I wasn't sure if those four counted. They probably meant popular in a general sense.
For those who aren't aware, Magnemite is a popular meme pick in Japan. He even got a nod in a Pokken reveal trailer.Sakurai was too much of a coward to add the real Ballot winner*
*In Japan
Not sure that this would affect much, but it depending on how the tariffs shake out, it could end up costing upwards of $80-$90 in the U.S. which is...really depressing. Although it would probably only affect physical copies of the games since tariffs only apply to stuff that requires shipping...at least I think that's right. Either way it would still be kinda depressing since it would make physical copies more of a collector's item then they already are.
Raidou’s design could be an issue in regions such as China and Korea to the point where the rerelease of P5R on other platforms removed the DLC that referenced his game.
They just want to keep the IP. That's really it.
I mean I figure that's PROBABLY it, but I've been thinking about Sonic Racing CrossWorlds recently and hoping that it's basically an All-Stars Racing rebrand.
Oh my goodness...
It's in the same position as Persona 5. Extremely popular (though not quite at Persona 5's level), an award show darling, a favourite 2024 game of many, many developers etc.
The “frame of reference” thing can also apply to cut characters in general in my opinion.
Or it's a Kid Icarus Uprising remake.
Hmm...Mega Man and Little Mac...vs. Simon...
Anyone who thinks the ballot had anything to do with any Smash 4 is fooling themselves.
The ground had to be tested somewhere though. Sonic wasn't a too risky third party character to add, Snake kinda was, and Sakurai didn't exactly wanna go overboard apparently. The next up third party characters in Smash 4 where also quite "safe" additions. Mega Man and Pacman, with Ryu as DLC and later on Cloud and I guess Bayonetta. I also don't think Ryu is extremely risky, and Bayonetta was already becoming Nintendo exclusive around that point.
Inklings and Isabelle? I know many thought of them as inevitable, and I really think they where. I predicted them both too. But Splatoon was huge during the ballot, and Villager's inclusion naturally must've given Isabelle tons of attention. Both also got DLC Mii costumes in Smash 4 I think? Seeing that K.Rool got the same treatment, that's probably a hint. I think
None. Probably because I find it hard to get into action combo-heavy games. I did play some Devil May Cry 3, but it was not easy to get in.
She's okay. I'm indifferent to her, so I don't hate her.
I find her tricky to use, since I'm not used to doing her combos.
I think she's pretty unique design and moveset wise. Not to mention our first and only 3rd Party female aside from Alex, who is an Alt of Steve, and Kazooie who's in a team with Banjo.
Rodin is cool, the stage is cool, and the music is pretty good.
As someone who doesn't play her much, I probably wouldn't miss her a lot compared to the characters I enjoy playing. But like Snake, I think their appearance gives Smash that uniqueness that helps makes Smash Bros. special, so I would still be sad to see her
Played through 1 and 2.