What is the real difference between the two and which one, if you are Xian, do you follow? For atheists such as myself take this time as an opportunity to understand their side, and then we can have an open debate on the 2 main parts of the Bible and the non-biblical side.
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New Testimate VS Old Testimate VS Atheist
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ChristisGod
Smash Apprentice
Old Test. is the prophecies of the Messiah, laws of God and end time prohecies. New Testament is the Fullfillment of those prophecies, the teachings of Jesus Christ and a more end time prophecies (Revelations for Example).
Ok lets see how many athiests respond to this thinking they know the bible inside and out.
Ok lets see how many athiests respond to this thinking they know the bible inside and out.
Yech, my first double-post in over 4 months 
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They're two completely different things.
The Old Testament is abuot God and the Israelites before Jesus came.
The New Testament is about Jesus fulfilling the promises of a Messiah.
That's basically it, most people will choose to follow both since it's two different time periods, and its all the same story.
The Old Testament is abuot God and the Israelites before Jesus came.
The New Testament is about Jesus fulfilling the promises of a Messiah.
That's basically it, most people will choose to follow both since it's two different time periods, and its all the same story.
Ummm... Kokichi, Christians are supposed to follow both. Otherwise the holy bible wouldn't have both of them included. 
Titanium-FiRe
Smash Journeyman
The New Testament and the Old Testament are practically the same except it's just that the New Testament was written after Jesus' birth. Also the Old Testemant tells prophecies of things in the New Testamant and prophecises a bit about the future(about towers falling etc.). The New Testament is the same xcept talks more about Jesus, and prophesises about the future.
Gigyas, some people who only worship the Old Testament call themselves Christians but they aren't cause they don't believe in Christ(such as Pharisees and Saul[the one who got his name changed to Paul]).
Gigyas, some people who only worship the Old Testament call themselves Christians but they aren't cause they don't believe in Christ(such as Pharisees and Saul[the one who got his name changed to Paul]).
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Giygas:
<strong>Ummm... Kokichi, Christians are supposed to follow both. Otherwise the holy bible wouldn't have both of them included. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hmmm...well I made the topic based on someone Christian saying that the Old Testimony was really stupid and inaccurate compared to the New Testimony. He also said that Jews believed in the Old Testimony only and Xians believed in both. So I guess we can discuss which one is...eh...****....ill get X...*slaps forehead*
<strong>Ummm... Kokichi, Christians are supposed to follow both. Otherwise the holy bible wouldn't have both of them included.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hmmm...well I made the topic based on someone Christian saying that the Old Testimony was really stupid and inaccurate compared to the New Testimony. He also said that Jews believed in the Old Testimony only and Xians believed in both. So I guess we can discuss which one is...eh...****....ill get X...*slaps forehead*Elfish Panda
Smash Cadet
You guys, I think I'm addicted to the debate forum.I feel this weird urge to come here every single day! I think I'm going nuts! Ahh! Anyway, I don't really follow either testament- they just don't appeal to me. All these homophobic jerks claim being gay is wrong because it's in the bible- well, the bible also supports slavery (that's in Leviticus, the same chapter as the gay thing), and tells you that you can'tt eat certain foods like lobster and ham. And by the way, what is all this sh*t about the prophecies about Jerusalem coming true? Hello, there's been fighting going on in the "holy land" for the past 1000 years, ever since the crusades! The palestenians are not ALL evil, and don't forget the jewish terrorists in the 1940s, like the zionists who blew up the King David Hotel- everyone over there didn't get enough hugs in their childhood. As 4 the new test., jesus was an all-around great guy, with MOSTLY good philosophies (the thing about only christians getting into heaven i disagree with) but i honestly don't know if he was the real deal. Over the past 3 years i've gone from devout catholic to liberal christian, to what i am now (a semi-aetheist 'spiritual seeker'). I'm sick of people quoting the bible trying to convince everyone else that they are wrong. In 2000 years christianity will either have been obliterated as a religion, or it will have changed a great deal. So really, i don't believe a lot of the bible, i'm not even sure if i'm a theist- i guess only tie will tell.
p.s. all you smash world guys, take a little break! Get outside, go see a movie, take a vacation. Gideon, I want you to relax for a week- get some1 else to take your place. I'm kinda sick of the forums, so this will be my last post 4 awhile, but i will check the debate room to see if anybody addressed my post- if i get dissed, i'll come back and diss the disser.
p.s. all you smash world guys, take a little break! Get outside, go see a movie, take a vacation. Gideon, I want you to relax for a week- get some1 else to take your place. I'm kinda sick of the forums, so this will be my last post 4 awhile, but i will check the debate room to see if anybody addressed my post- if i get dissed, i'll come back and diss the disser.
BinkysEvolution
Smash Apprentice
Okaayy...
Christisgod, who was the messiah? I'm a bit confused on that bit. I thought Jesus Christ was the messiah.
Christisgod, who was the messiah? I'm a bit confused on that bit. I thought Jesus Christ was the messiah.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Kokichi:
<strong>Hmmm...well I made the topic based on someone Christian saying that the Old Testimony was really stupid and inaccurate compared to the New Testimony. He also said that Jews believed in the Old Testimony only and Xians believed in both. So I guess we can discuss which one is...eh...****....ill get X...*slaps forehead*</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yeah, be careful how you label people kokichi, you cant just flop all jews and christians into the same category, there are some major differences. Also, watch what "christians" ou quote from. some people quote has chirstians just to give us a bad name. Use a little common sense.
Anyway, of course we cfollow both. The reason the Jews don't follow the New Testament is because they don't believe the Messiah ever came yet. Some Jews do believe in both, however.
So theres no real debate over which is better or which one follows, so I say this topic should probably be closed...
<strong>Hmmm...well I made the topic based on someone Christian saying that the Old Testimony was really stupid and inaccurate compared to the New Testimony. He also said that Jews believed in the Old Testimony only and Xians believed in both. So I guess we can discuss which one is...eh...****....ill get X...*slaps forehead*</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yeah, be careful how you label people kokichi, you cant just flop all jews and christians into the same category, there are some major differences. Also, watch what "christians" ou quote from. some people quote has chirstians just to give us a bad name. Use a little common sense.
Anyway, of course we cfollow both. The reason the Jews don't follow the New Testament is because they don't believe the Messiah ever came yet. Some Jews do believe in both, however.
So theres no real debate over which is better or which one follows, so I say this topic should probably be closed...
CaptFalcon
Smash Journeyman
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by BinkysEvolution:
<strong>Okaayy...
Christisgod, who was the messiah? I'm a bit confused on that bit. I thought Jesus Christ was the messiah.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And these are the people that think they are qualified to debate about the Bible and what it means? I don't want to be rude or anything, but that is a very basic concept of the Bible.
And as for the topic- Some laws in the Old Testament are out dated because of things that are said in the New. For instance: God tells us not to eat pork in the Old Testament. However, in the New Testament, Jesus says somewhere that it doesn't matter what you eat. This is not a contradiction, but it is only that the two things "cancel out" so to speak.
<small>[ April 21, 2002, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: CaptFalcon ]</small>
<strong>Okaayy...
Christisgod, who was the messiah? I'm a bit confused on that bit. I thought Jesus Christ was the messiah.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And these are the people that think they are qualified to debate about the Bible and what it means? I don't want to be rude or anything, but that is a very basic concept of the Bible.
And as for the topic- Some laws in the Old Testament are out dated because of things that are said in the New. For instance: God tells us not to eat pork in the Old Testament. However, in the New Testament, Jesus says somewhere that it doesn't matter what you eat. This is not a contradiction, but it is only that the two things "cancel out" so to speak.
<small>[ April 21, 2002, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: CaptFalcon ]</small>
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