New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Diddy Kong]

Then don't spiritually try to success Diddy, Rambi (and all other animal buddies), the enemies, the locations and even the gameplay. It was an ok game, would've been much better if they made it an actual DK game though

 

[Aaven]

I won't lie, I had a **** ton of fun with Jungle Beat at the time.

But once DKC Returns came out I realized how much more I enjoyed the Country Series of Donkey Kong. More DKC Stages in Smash please.

 

[DekuBoy]

I like Jungle Beat. But now that a new Donkey Kong Country game has come out I see Retro designing a stage like they did in Mario Kart.

 

[Johnknight1]

The only good thing Jungle Beat did was:
1. Have great music.
2. Help push music and rhythm games forward with the drums (until Rock Band trumped it).
3. Have some nice Jungle locations... but nothing too special.

Also, I'm not just comparing it to DKC 1-3, Returns, and DK64, but also other Rhythm games. I'll take Rock Band over Jungle Beat any day. Plus the reason Nintendo didn't try to make a new DKC game is because they knew they would fail. Let's be honest: probably only a Western Nintendo division could succeed with DKC, because mostly only Western gamers buy/play/understand those games. However, Sakurai seems to enjoy the series. I think he had it on his Virtual Console.

Also, Rumble Falls would have been much better if it didn't have the random "speed up" part and moved slowly. Just look up Rumble Falls in "Balanced Brawl." Also, look up Balanced Brawl's version of Mushroomy Kingdom, especially 1-1 of said stage. It's like a Ground version of Rainbow Cruise.

 

[Arcadenik]

King K. Rool and Dixie Kong should be in Smash 4. Both of them. Kiddy Kong as Dixie's tag team partner would be a sweet extra as well. And then Sakurai can add Donkey Kong Jr. as a Donkey Kong clone for all I care... As long as the Donkey Kong Country stars get in first before him.

 

[DekuBoy]

Personally I would prefer a Diddy and Dixie team. And K. Rool of course.

 

[Johnknight1]

Diddy and Dixie teaming would take away from both of their originality, and would also be super broken... even if they don't work as a tag team. Seriously, the Ice Climbers are broken enough having the same moves and sucking alone. If we had two legitimate threat characters like that in Brawl, they would make Meta Knight look like garbage, and might even be more broken than Pikachu in Smash 64!

 

[DekuBoy]

How do you know that a hypothetical tag team in a pretty darn far away game would be broken? As for the Ice Climbers I find them terrible in Brawl personally.

 

[yani]

Diddy and Dixie teaming would take away from both of their originality, and would also be super broken... even if they don't work as a tag team.

This.

10kongs

 

[BirthNote]

Yep.

10BonusKongs

Also, Rumble Falls would have been much better if it didn't have the random "speed up" part and moved slowly. Just look up Rumble Falls in "Balanced Brawl." Also, look up Balanced Brawl's version of Mushroomy Kingdom, especially 1-1 of said stage. It's like a Ground version of Rainbow Cruise.

There were so many better choices from that game alone to begin with. I hope the next DK stage isn't jungle-related or a direct reference to the first Donkey Kong game. The kong's been in jungles, forests, beaches, factories, temples, volcanoes, the sky, abstract paradises, space, oceans, ships, cliffs, caves and the main thing we see in Smash is a jungle.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Deku
Because the Ice Climbers are always super strong. Also, the Ice Climbers in Brawl are easily one of the ten best characters in Brawl (and Melee). The Ice Climbers in Brawl force you to approach them, they can do all kinds of crazy strong moves. In Melee, they can do some crazy combos on you, eff up your L-cancelling timing, grab you to death, and do all kinds of crazy stuff.

Also, if Diddy and Dixie Kong were to team, here's what would need to happen to make them "balanced:"
1. Diddy Kong would need to weigh a lot less. Like, less than Pikachu. The same goes for Dixie Kong.
2. Diddy Kong would need to do about 150% less damage with each of his moves (ie: if a move does 6%, it now does 2%). The same goes for Dixie Kong (if she was original and in the game).
3. Both characters would need to be garbage alone.

That idea ultimately would make both of them awful characters, and not very enjoyable. That's why characters that or the same or almost the same (ie: The Ice Climbers, Plusle and Minun) work and nobody else does as an idea. It takes away from the originality and uniqueness of the two teamed characters, and makes them a bland tangent. That or their originality and diversity makes them literally cover up all of their weaknesses. Either way, you lose.

 

[Metal Overlord]

You do realize that Title Fight will have Parappa. It would'nt make sense to have a Sony character in Smash because they will have their own persinal fighting game and for his lack of appearances on a Nintendo console. We'll never see Banjo and Kazooie for a similar reason (being brought out by Microsoft).

I think I should just stick "I'm joking, BTW!" on every post I make. lol

 

[Lukingordex]

Some people want Baby Mario and Baby Luigi working together as a character lol.

 

[Arcadenik]

Diddy and Dixie teaming would take away from both of their originality, and would also be super broken... even if they don't work as a tag team. Seriously, the Ice Climbers are broken enough having the same moves and sucking alone. If we had two legitimate threat characters like that in Brawl, they would make Meta Knight look like garbage, and might even be more broken than Pikachu in Smash 64!

How hypocritical. You want the Melee clones back but you don't want Kongs teaming up because you think that takes away Ice Climbers' uniqueness. At least the Kongs wouldn't have the same moves as the Ice Climbers.

 

[Big-Cat]

Diddy and Dixie teaming would take away from both of their originality, and would also be super broken... even if they don't work as a tag team. Seriously, the Ice Climbers are broken enough having the same moves and sucking alone. If we had two legitimate threat characters like that in Brawl, they would make Meta Knight look like garbage, and might even be more broken than Pikachu in Smash 64!

The Ice Climbers are only a real threat with their chain grab because there's nothing in the Smash games to stop them from doing it.

And it's not what you have that makes you unique, but how you use it.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Arcadenik
The Ice Climbers aren't that unique alone. They also suck alone. Without the other Ice Climber, the individual Ice Climber would suck. That's the point I'm making. The team makes them unique and actually strong. "Alone we are weak, but together we are an army."

Also, what I'm trying to say is that teaming Dixie Kong and Diddy Kong would take away from each of their uniqueness (as in Dixie and Diddy individually), and/or would be broken, which is good for nobody. Plus teams in general where the two characters have different completely/mostly moves wouldn't work in smash. Because either one will be broken and dominate, the other will throw off your timing, and you could pull out all kinds of defense killing moves that would make defense useless.

Baby Mario and Baby Luigi could work, because they are:
1. Super lightweight
2. Have similar moves
3. Don't have much strength.

Dixie and Diddy, while semi-lightweights, have a lot more strength, Uniqueness, and all kinds of defense killing moves (based on Diddy's Brawl appearance).

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Ice Crabbers... XDD

I don't really prefer Dixie as a team partner with Diddy. She's quite good on her own.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Diddy and Dixie tag team? lolno

Dixie is perfectly fine on her own. The only tag team that I think would be cool for her would be Dixie/Kiddy like in DKC3

 

[Jakor]

I'd much prefer to have Dixie and Kiddy as a tag team than Diddy and Dixie. Diddy Kong already has his own slot, and he deserves it, as he also is quite unique and fun to play as.

 

[BirthNote]

If Diddy and Dixie get paired, I want a DK and Diddy, Mario and Luigi, as well as Mario and Yoshi slots. OH--we should also get a Kirby and Metaknight slot. I mean c'mon they're both heads with feet. Ah, also, ALL pokemon should come from the Trainer. Flawless.

On a serious note, Dixie and Kiddy aren't bad because Kiddy never had a starring role. I'd still like Dixie on her own though.

 

[Big-Cat]

Plus teams in general where the two characters have different completely/mostly moves wouldn't work in smash. Because either one will be broken and dominate, the other will throw off your timing, and you could pull out all kinds of defense killing moves that would make defense useless.

We already have that problem with Zelda/Sheik and Pokemon Trainer. Hence why I'd like Impa to be Sheik's spiritual successor and have her own slot.

 

[Johnknight1]

Diddy Kong as is only needs himself.

Dixie Kong could use Kiddy Kong, but it isn't required. It could be broken, but not as broken as Diddy teaming with... well... anyone!

 

[Jakor]

On a serious note, Dixie and Kiddy aren't bad because Kiddy never had a playable role. I'd still like Dixie on her own though.

Kiddy was playable in DKC3.

 

[BirthNote]

Kiddy was playable in DKC3.

*Facepalm* My mistake, I meant having a game of his own.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Jakor, I think he meant that Kiddy has no playable role in Smash unlike Diddy

Edit: **** nvm

 

[Jakor]

Anyway, I'd prefer Dixie to be on her own, although I wouldn't mind if she's a tag team with Kiddy. But Diddy and Dixie? No way.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Just thought of bringing this idea: 3D-roaming Smash? For Adventure Mode that could be similar to KI Uprising?

Controls could be like this:

Joystick/Circle Pad: ]Move/Dash /Like in Uprising/

A: Standard Attacks /With Forward Tilt's, Forward and Backward Aerials and Forward Smash to boot./

B: Special Moves

Z: Jump
Up Attacks are done this way:

Up Tilt: Z + A ( + = press at the same time)

Up Aerial: Z + A in air

Up Smash: Smash the joystick forward like in SSB-series + Z + A

Up Special: Z + B

L : Crouch
Do Down Attacks this way.

Down Tilt: Crouch -> A

Down Smash: Smash the Joystick + L + A

Down Aerial: L + A in air

R: Shield.

What ya think guys?

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Nice control settings. I like it

 

[Conviction]

If only Iblis were here to see this guy. lol

I seen it all but instead of arguing over it I'm just bystanding. People like a character some don't. No need to get bent out of shape, even if they do say something stupid in the mist of it.

Shadow is the Waluigi of Sonic it seems Both are easily the most stupid suggestions commonly seen, and actually have a small shot of happening. That doesn't mean it SHOULD though :/

Was really tempted to replace Shadow with Impa, and Sonic with Zelda.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Yoshi need to have the Mario Galaxy 2 hability of using his tong for grab the ledge.

From what I can tell, Yoshi can only grab certain objects with his tongue. Ledges are not part of what he can grab. On the other hand though, Link's Clawshot could only connect with certain targets in Twilight Princess, but could grab ledges in Brawl. Of course, using a tool to grab things would be less stressful than using your tongue.

Rosalina has the same body shape, about the same height, and similar characteristics. Plus, like Daisy, she looks modeled after Peach. While Rosalina is't 100% confirmed to be a clone if she were added in a future Smash Bros. game, it is at least a possibility. As for Ganondorf, I think his Brawl play style was original, but I think his move set needs to be more original, too. That's really the only character that needs major overhauls. That is, aside from Yoshi, Ness, and Lucas, who are perennial weak characters.

It would still seem like a waste if Rosalina ended up with Peach's specials. She can easily have her own moveset, especially when you take into account her magic abilities. Of course, my special move inputs did originate from Lucario's Aura Sphere (Star Beam), Dedede's Waddle Dee Toss (Luma Assist), Mewtwo's Teleport (Teleport), and Fox's Reflector (Star Barrier), so I guess her specials wouldn't be completely unique.

King K.Rool for SM4SH!!!

He really needs to appear in a new DK game already. I'm tired of all these randomly new DK enemies popping up in recent games.

Yeah K. Rool has been heavily neglected after Mario Super Sluggers. He really needs to regain his former glory, when possible.

Shh... let's forget about Jungle Beat. It sucks compared to Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3, and even compared to DKC Returns and Donkey Kong 64.

Speaking of which.. we need a mine cart/mines level, NOAWH!!!

A mine cart stage for Adventure Mode would be a neat thought.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Horsetail- I just can't like the idea of a Smash game in 3D but I'm sure that people who can enjoy such a thing will like your ideas

 

[Disfunkshunal]

If you want 3D smash get power stone. Go 2D or go HOME.

.... I kinda like the idea of a smash spinoff though that would focus on single player in 3D full roam sometime in the future. It could be a downloadable game since it's highly experimental. At least this way no one has to experience 3D smash.

 

[Conviction]

Smash spinoffs??

Sounds pretty good. Smash could head in different directions, Smash shooters, Smash RPG, Smash Action haha

3D roaming, hub-worlds, sound nice.

 

[Mypantisgone]

We really need a smash race minigame and everyone as their car that come from their game,they all do,right?

Unless it"s a spinoff but it may not be worth,unless,it's really well worked!

 

[Disfunkshunal]

^^^ Only thing is that steps on the toes of Mario Kart.


I'd especially like a smash shooter. It's be pretty cool too with the variety of weapons from samus' missiles to diddy's peanuts to kamikaze pikmin. It doesn't even have to be graphic *see water warfare.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Smash Racing? I'd be down for that, even though it brings up bad memories of Motor Kombat in Mortal Kombat Armageddon and the crappy Kart Minigame in Sonic Adventure 2, lol

 

[Shorts]

Since not much is going on, I'll share my idea for the next Adventure Mode.

Super Smash Brothers: Dimensional Struggle (maybe the title of the DS game if it's all single player)

Something like that.

One of the appeals of fanfics. I wish I had the motivation to finish my storyline, but I don't. Of course, I could do what you just did, and make a general like you did.

 

[SmashChu]

Probably will be co-op. The idea they have given is that the DS one will be the single player focus and the Wii U is multiplayer and they can combine in some way.

I'll post more I guess. Kind of also doing this on the fly.

Chapter 7)Little Mac is training in a gym in the city when the mysterious force attacks. They launch numerous meteors at the ground. Lucas, running and crying, is almost hit before Little Mac comes in and saves the day (by punching it to bits of course). Little Mac gives Lucas an encouragement and Lucas responds back. They both go and fight the new force (this is the first time you fight those kinds of enemies). At the end, you are confronted with a boss. Ness shows up just in time to attack the foe. They are soon outnumbered. Ness does a PK Flash, and the three escape by jumping into a hole made by the destruction.

Chapter 8)Mario, Pit and Kirby manage to get on the ground. Near by, Yoshi is enjoying some fruit from the trees. The three of them see the ship in sight, and run off in that direction. Yoshi, looks up and sees them run off. He decides to follow them.

Chapter 9)DK makes it to shore thanks to Enguarde. DK lifts the Diddy and Dixie trophies and throws them on the shore. As he awakens them, the Hewdraw attacks. They defeat him, and he is struck by one of the meteors. The three of them run along the shore fighting the new foe.

Chapter 10)Dedede managed to escape before the ship was sunk. He awakens Meta-Knight and Saki. Soon after, the ship comes out of the water with some strange rocks attacked to the side. It flies off. Meta-Knight quickly runs after it. Saki and Dedede look at each other and follow after.

Don't think anyone cares, but I'll go along with it.

Chapter X)[This time around, there are extra levels if you get a high enough overall score] Jigglypuff does a singing show for these little doll things she made (or found maybe?). But subspace foes come in a trample them. Jigglypuff gets mad and chases after them.

Chapter 11)Zelda travels though the ruins with Ike by her side. They are then attacked by foes. The two engage them, move though the ruins. At the end, they find their destination in the distance, Bowser's Castle

Chapter 12)Samus head towards a mysterious island in the sky with Pikachu by her side. As she approaches it, the ships goes haywire, and they make an emergency landing in what looks like a hanger bay. They go deeper into the island, and they are attacked at the end of the stage by a group of foes. They are captured, and Black Shadow shows his ugly face

Chapter 13)Toad meats up with Little Mac, Lucas, and Ness in the sewers. He inquires about Peach, but they know nothing. They try to make their way out. At the end, they are greeted by a bright light, but you wont get to know where they are until later.

The hard part about doing all of this is which character goes where.

 

[Bowserlick]

My thoughts on the discussion.

1. Dixie should be on her own if she gets in. Diddy is already established and would have to be watered down to nearly unusable to have a teammate.

2. Give Zelda/Sheik a reflector/shield while they transform. Nayru's Love could be a down B that also allows Zelda to transform to Sheik. This way Zelda can reflect a projectile and then have her Sheik form to follow up. Have Sheik's down B transformation be a barrier (much like Impa's barrier from Skyward) that absorbs damage. That way she can block a Smash and have her Zelda form ready to deliver a powerful counterattack. This also opens up another special move slot for Zelda (since Nayru's love would be part of her transformation).

3. While I don't think Rosalina will get in, if she must have her specials be related to the Star's powers in Mario galaxy. She can shoot star bits, use a Star helper to hold opponents, summon comets, twirl ect.

 

[Big-Cat]

2. Give Zelda/Sheik a reflector/shield while they transform. Nayru's Love could be a down B that also allows Zelda to transform to Sheik. This way Zelda can reflect a projectile and then have her Sheik form to follow up. Have Sheik's down B transformation be a barrier (much like Impa's barrier from Skyward) that absorbs damage. That way she can block a Smash and have her Zelda form ready to deliver a powerful counterattack. This also opens up another special move slot for Zelda (since Nayru's love would be part of her transformation).

But if the opponent knows about the transformation, they'll just grab or attack them on recovery, having the same problem as before.

Face it, it just doesn't work.