New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Tacket]

Speaking of Fire Emblem.
I hope Joshua gets in...although it is unlikely.

 

[Shorts]

Your missing my point Pokemon Trainer brought something completely new to the plate like Olimar. Whether you think he's a hack or not he's one of the characters who I can't see getting cut

What Pokemon trainer did wasn't anything revolutionary, or brand new. It was a three way, FORCED switch version of Zelda/Sheik. Nothing to be excited about. He's probably one of the worst characters ever created, because at the basic level, the basic concept of him, if flawed. BUT LETS NOT GET INTO why he's no way near as good as he could have been. PT isn't anything special, and Sakurai hasn't shown any preference to him over Lucario. If anything, Sakurai would want them BOTH to return.

You cut happy loons. I'll tell you right now, Sonic and Snake would be the first characters to be cut.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Unfortunately, it seems so. 3 would be fine, but I'd rather Roy back that Ike myself. I was not a fan of him at all.

Roy starred just one Fire Emblem game, the first one ever released for the GBA, but was only in Japan. He did mark he revival of the series (especially so being in Melee) but other than that he hold little importance.

Besides, Marth should be enough for the Japanese fans, Fire Emblem is international now, and Ike is the only main character to star 2 games besides Marth (who is technically in 4 games, but yeah) and he has had the best potential for a moveset so far. If we get 4 FE Lords however, I'd gladly take Roy. I actually played his game, and even though he himself sucks in it, it's difficulty is still unmatched.

What I mean is this; Why only keep Charizard? The best part about Trainer was having 3 characters in 1. Not just one guy. I honestly consider it an all or nothing in this case.

Well that's true. But a seperate Charizard seems more likely than a seperate Sheik at least. (Who's not named Impa).

To be honest, you could easily have both. Impa would be a LOT more powerful, and somewhat slower. More like how Donkey Kong and Bowser are actually pretty darn fast, despite being slow bruisers.

Both would be really, really cool (would LOVE to see this in a Zelda game actually!) but if I had to choose, I'd pick Impa every time. Impa being a strong character I don't really agree with... she's rather skinny in SS. It could work, but it would look a little odd.

Also, yes to me Dixie seems more likely than K.Rool as well, but I'd much, much rather have K.Rool if only to bring notice to him again. Having different enemies than Kremlings in DKCR was honestly the only thing I didn't like about the game...

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Honestly, I liked PT. I'm combining that with a need of 3rd Gen representation for 3rd Gen Trainer

 

[Diddy Kong]

3rd Generation trainer should of coarse be Blaziken, Grovyle and Mudkip. But I don't think that if they cut the Trainer we get a new one. Like shorty said, the concept itself was pretty weak already. They either improve it with the current characters, or remove the concept completely.

 

[Oasis_S]

"I just want to play as Charizard. This character must be FLAWED. He should be removed completely!"

Yerp.

 

[Diddy Kong]

That's why I said keep Charizard But yeah, it won't happen, and I said that before.

The Trainer doesn't have to be flawed either, as in 100% perfect, but I'd like them to try. Removing the stamina and the slow switching alone would help a lot.

Also, can I call myself a Zelda fan if I can't bring myself to completing Majora's Mask? Am stuck in the Ice / Fire temple, and I don't really feel like continueing...

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

IMPROVEMENT: What if, when you choose the POKÉMON on the character select, you play as just that Pokémon. No Trainer, no other Pokémon. Just the one you picked.

 

[yani_]

Also, can I call myself a Zelda fan if I can't bring myself to completing Majora's Mask? Am stuck in the Ice / Fire temple, and I don't really feel like continueing...

I've yet to play DKCR but it was disappointing to find out there's no kremlings . I'd definitely be satisfied with either though (Krool or Dixie) OR EVEN BOTH

For some reason I can't stand the Ice temple. But you should finish it, the last fight is epic if you have fierce deity

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Roy starred just one Fire Emblem game, the first one ever released for the GBA, but was only in Japan. He did mark he revival of the series (especially so being in Melee) but other than that he hold little importance.

Besides, Marth should be enough for the Japanese fans, Fire Emblem is international now, and Ike is the only main character to star 2 games besides Marth (who is technically in 4 games, but yeah) and he has had the best potential for a moveset so far. If we get 4 FE Lords however, I'd gladly take Roy. I actually played his game, and even though he himself sucks in it, it's difficulty is still unmatched.

Right. My point was that if we keep up with what happened in Brawl, Ike would get replaced since Marth is the main lord.

Well that's true. But a seperate Charizard seems more likely than a seperate Sheik at least. (Who's not named Impa).

I meant Impa as a bit of a clone, but different too. Likewise, as I said, the appeal of PT, and not Charizard, was 3 in 1.

Both would be really, really cool (would LOVE to see this in a Zelda game actually!) but if I had to choose, I'd pick Impa every time. Impa being a strong character I don't really agree with... she's rather skinny in SS. It could work, but it would look a little odd.

I would prefer Impa for more relevance myself.

Also, yes to me Dixie seems more likely than K.Rool as well, but I'd much, much rather have K.Rool if only to bring notice to him again. Having different enemies than Kremlings in DKCR was honestly the only thing I didn't like about the game...

I'd rather have the main villain first. Both should get in, but we're rather lacking in villains as is.

 

[yani_]

I'd rather have the main villain first. Both should get in, but we're rather lacking in villains as is.

We're also lacking female animals . Sure hope both get in though.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm gonna repeat my little concept of what they could do to make Pokemon Trainer stick out. In fact, he'd stick out so much that he'd be like playing a completely different game.... a different fighting game?

Pokemon Tag Tournament X Street Fighter vs. Marvel 4 - Fate of Two Boobie Ladies

Now, the directional pad, previously used for just taunts, now has an important use, solely for Pokemon Trainer. Taunts 1, 2, and 3 are now for switching your Pokemon during battle. The way it works is this, each Pokemon swapping corresponds to a certain taunt command and you'll switch Pokemon based on which taunt command you select and your order is rearranged. Here are some examples.

Squirtle - On Point (meaning in play)
Ivysaur - 2
Charizard - 3

Press the #1 taunt and that functions has Squirtle taunting as usual. Do the second taunt, and you get:

Ivysaur - On Point
Squirtle - 2
Charizard - 3

So, the way you switch out your Pokemon is similar to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and 3. You can switch mid-combo as it can be special canceled into. This can be done on the ground or in the air. When you do the switching, it works like Street Fighter x Tekken where the next Pokemon is tagged in while the previously on point Pokemon still attacks. For example, if you do Charizard's B and tag cancel, Charizard will stay out for a set period of time and you next Pokemon can attack. It's best to do this with multi-hitting attacks, but single hitting attacks are a viable option. There are no restrictions on the amount of times you can switch save for your number of times you can jump thanks to the game's knockback system serving as a built-in limit.

Other Notes:
Each Pokemon has its own health and there is no stamina limit. If a Pokemon is knocked out, the next one is tossed in with the K.O.'d Pokemon being put in the end of the "line". If Ivysaur is knocked out from the above example, you have:

Squirtle - On Point
Charizard - 2
Ivysaur - 3

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

We're also lacking female animals . Sure hope both get in though.

Note how Wolf got in before Krystal.

And yeah, agreed. I'd take K. Rool first, though. Every series that has a possible villain should get them before extra sidekicks, imo.

 

[Shorts]

"I just want to play as Charizard. This character must be FLAWED. He should be removed completely!"

Yerp.

Well, I would like him removed, but the first two sentences are true. Such a stupid idea.

Note how Wolf got in before Krystal.

But we've discussed this. Krystal was never even considered.

And yeah, agreed. I'd take K. Rool first, though. Every series that has a possible villain should get them before extra sidekicks, imo.

The funny thing is, I seriously don't think we're getting K. Rool without getting Dixie first.

 

[Opelucid]

Why can't we just get K.Rool and Dixie?

 

[yani_]

It's good to see for the most part no one really has a problem with either of them getting in, or both

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Why can't we just get K.Rool and Dixie?

As much as I want to have both be involved, others only expect one or the other. It's a tough crowd out there.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Speaking of Fire Emblem.
I hope Joshua gets in...although it is unlikely.

i hope we gets in

 

[Diddy Kong]

Both are yet to appear in a new game, that's the first thing I'd say... However, for K.Rool it shouldn't mather much as he was in ALL DK games prior DKCR. That's more than DK himself (meaning, DK was less of a playable character than K.Rool the villian).

I'd prefer Dixie as an add-on to Diddy. If Pokemon Trainer or Sheik is removed they could work like a switchable duo. But it's been discussed before... I even have a moveset lingering around somewhere.

 

[yani_]

DK has K.Rool captured in his house now

But on a serious note I wonder where they'll take the series in the next game. I definitely would rather not have Dixie as an add-on though.

 

[Diddy Kong]

With add-on I kinda mean like the 2nd Ice Climber, but switchable with down B (a combo of the concept of Ice Climbers and Zelda / Sheik). But the concept is pretty old now to as it hails from the SNES DKC games... In the latest games the Kongs are much different, Diddy feels actually more of an add-on if anything (especially in DK:Jungle Climber, but DKCR to if your not playing with 2 people which I heavily recommend) with the tag-teams gone. But there's hope that returns in DKCR2? Along with K.Rool pretty pwease.

IF we're basing this all on DKCR though, the only likely new comer for Sm4sh is Rambi the Rhino... Which would be both awkward and ****ing awesome in the same place. I'll even do a moveset later if I feel like it! :D

 

[Opelucid]

I wouldn't mind a Dixie and Diddy team since I'm a Diddy Kong main but they'd probably end up being broken since Diddy Kong is great by himself.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Gtfo your really starting to annoy me if you aren't going to contribute get out of here

Oh yeah any big news?

Chill out lol I'm pretty sure smash wimp is half-trolling us with that

 

[Diddy Kong]

If anything I hope they don't change too much about Diddy either. His playstyle in Brawl is just PERFECT. I fell in love with it straight ahead, and didn't even bother trying other characters (played an imported NTSC version and Japanese one with a friend- so it's been a while for sure).

Dixie wouldn't really play like Diddy I think. She'd perhaps have somewhat similar moves in style, but she'd be weaker, somewhat slower runner, but have an amazing recovery (picture DK's but much better). Truth to be told though, I'm not 100% sure about a good moveset for B moves really without looking back at Diddy (mainly for side B, perhaps bananas to) but I think they can make it work. K.Rool would be much more natural though.

Kinda related to but, I want DK to have a Barrel Throw for Side B, and his roll (actually called Barrel Roll according to the official site) for a dash attack. Barrel Throw would work really well for DK, giving him a projectile (and a strong one knowing the barrels and crates from previous games) which he can move around with... Would that perhaps even be too overpowered in concept? Barrels when thrown deal high damage and knockback both in Melee and Brawl (then again they can be blocked easily).

 

[Conviction]

LOL Smash Wimp, anyways, I agree. Diddy doesn't really need any changes. Characters that need work are characters like Sonic or Luigi.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Why Luigi? I love how he plays in Brawl really. Maybe bring back Melee's misfire on side B, but other than that I'd say he's very well done. He plays very... Luigi-like in Brawl.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Lol, thats what he calls himself Iblis

Luigi along with King Dedede were the characters I was most satisfied with in Brawl

 

[Deleted member]

You cut happy loons. I'll tell you right now, Sonic and Snake would be the first characters to be cut.

Never thought I would live to see the day when you said that.

 

[Diddy Kong]

King DeDeDe was done well to I feel yeah. But for me, DK felt really really smooth to play. Brawl physics really worked well for him. Shame for the chaingrabbing though... I also like Fox much better in Brawl than in Melee, even though he's worse. He just plays more natural (never could Shine spike well anyway)

And wasn't Iblis the name of the Devil in the Islam??

 

[Opelucid]

Iblis is a boss from a sonic game if I'm not mistaken.

I think D3 is fine I think they should get rid of his inhale move and replace it with Hammer Spin or something among those lines.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I always thought Iblis' name was supposed to be a reference to Sonic '06

 

[Diddy Kong]

Don't know about Sonic, but he's deffinatly Lucifer in the Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_(Islam)

Inhale is pretty iconic to DeDeDe, but I guess they can replace it with whatever. Also gotta add that I felt most unsatisfied about Link and Samus, but I'm not alone on that. Also Ganon. I played Brawl first with a die hard Ganon main (from Melee who used to beat my DK all time, everytime... never won once) and his face when playing Ganon in Brawl... You should've seen it. Not good.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Lol, thats what he calls himself Iblis

Luigi along with King Dedede were the characters I was most satisfied with in Brawl

REALLY

stands 4
smash wimp 96

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I am currently watching teh Victini movie. I'll let you know my new thoughts on Victini afterward.

 

[Opelucid]

REALLY

stands 4
smash wimp 96

I thought it was Smash Wuss but whatever. Oops that was rude of me oh well

Has anyone made any Saki movesets yet?

 

[Metal Overlord]

REALLY

stands 4
smash wimp 96

It's still virtually the same thang... I condensed Smash Wimp 96 down to Smash Wimp 'cause it sounds better to me

So wut da prollem is?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I always thought Iblis' name was supposed to be a reference to Sonic '06

Yeah, and to most people, Iblis is something that they're better off forgetting, considering how bad Sonic 2006's reviews were.

At least Twinbellows is an alternate choice for a Smash 4 boss.

 

[Pachinkosam]

anybody thing that blacknight is gonna make it

 

[Conviction]

Why Luigi? I love how he plays in Brawl really. Maybe bring back Melee's misfire on side B, but other than that I'd say he's very well done. He plays very... Luigi-like in Brawl.

Not his moves. His physics XD it makes him suck

Lol, thats what he calls himself Iblis

Wow.

And wasn't Iblis the name of the Devil in the Islam??

Iblis is a boss from a sonic game if I'm not mistaken.

.

I always thought Iblis' name was supposed to be a reference to Sonic '06

All 3 are correct.

REALLY

stands 4
smash wimp 96

It spells stupid to me either way though

 

[Aurane]

Social Worker 96... Oh wait