New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

Well, with Omega gone, I'm back to my old self again

 

[Tacket]

Omega, if you've never played Paper Mario 64, you're not a true Paper Mario fan.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm not a true fan then either. It just didn't catch my interest back then. Looking back its a real shame.

55 might be a bit much indeed, but we should at least get 50 then I guess...

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Koopalings 4 Smash

The Koopalings would work out pretty well as stage elements for Bowser's Castle.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Always playing the games =/= true fan. It's the passion, not the playage. You can play any game all day, but not be a true fan of it.

Anyway, at this point, I'm hoping for 55-60 characters. That may include DLC.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

48 seems to work best if no transformations are applied. Add the transformations, no more then 55.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

48 seems to work best if no transformations are applied. Add the transformations, no more than 55.

Let's not put an actual limit on it. It could be around 60 or more. Who knows. I expect atleast 50, but I hope for a lot more. Frankly, every single character already available, plus the Forbidden 7, plus Veterans like Dr. Mario, etc. If we include all that, then we can work with completely new characters.

So, let's see, Brawl had exactly 40 characters total. Let's add in the Forbidden 7, and Pichu and Young Link making it 49. Only 6 new characters(this isn't counting the Forbidden 7 as they were already planned)? Not enough. Bump it to 60, and more than enough new stuff is added. There's no clear indication that there is a limited amount of space either, so we can do quite a lot. This is if all the veterans from every game plus the newly planned characters in Brawl all make it. Which probably won't happen anyway. 55 is actually rather small considering who's all available. I'd rather go with an even 60, making room for some veterans, and still having tons of new and original characters.

 

[Tacket]

You gotta try Paper Mario sometime, Diddy.

 

[Oasis_S]

It's kind of weird. Used to, this thread would be really pessimistic about the number of characters, but now we have HyperOptimistic here.

It's GENERALLY GOOD PRACTICE to try and be a bit conservative.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Hah, I think I've missed out on a lot of great N64 games anyways. I missed out on Star Fox, Mario Kart, haven't finishrd Banjo-Kazooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day... Just to name a few. Was too busy playing Diddy Kong Racing I guess

Also, do you guys even at this point think ANY characters will get cut?

 

[Big-Cat]

The Koopalings would work out pretty well as stage elements for Bowser's Castle.

They can also work as part of Bowser Jr.'s moveset. If Captain Commando and Strider can have built in assist attacks, I don't see why Bowser Jr. can't. Now, I'll admit that it'd be difficult to come up with an attack that is attached to each of the siblings. UNLESS, they show up for his Final Smash/Super Smash/whatever.

 

[Deleted member]

It's kind of weird. Used to, this thread would be really pessimistic about the number of characters, but now we have HyperOptimistic here.

It's GENERALLY GOOD PRACTICE to try and be a bit conservative.

This. Strangely enough, I used to expect 50 character slots. Now I only expect 39 (although I hope for 45-49).

 

[Diddy Kong]

Bowser Jr should be able to throw a Green Shell like in NSMB if he makes it.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@Diddy Kong: Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, Ike, they have the least chance of returning compared to everybody else. And maybe Toon Link for either Young Link or a completely new character.

 

[Opelucid]

@Diddy Kong: Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, Ike, they have the least chance of returning compared to everybody else. And maybe Toon Link for either Young Link or a completely new character.

Pokemon Trainer is completely original why should he get cut?

 

[Oasis_S]

This. Strangely enough, I used to expect 50 character slots. Now I only expect 39 (although I hope for 45-49).

Don't this THAT! Your pessimism was/is the strongest of them all!

AROUND 50 is the thing to expect.

 

[Shorts]

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Merry X-Mas and happy New Year's to all, will come back and debate some Smash Bros very soon!!!

-Omega

Har.

Pokemon Trainer is completely original why should he get cut?

He also listed two other original characters. Why should they be cut? Pokemon Trainer is a freaking hack.

 

[Pachinkosam]

You gotta try Paper Mario sometime, Diddy.

lol i hate paper mario games i always get lost. when i did everything i am still lost WTF!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Pokemon Trainer is completely original why should he get cut?

Mewtwo is completely original, why should he get cut?

That's why. To make room for new Pokemon character and trying another 1st Gen(if the pattern stays).

Likewise, if it means a 3rd Gen Rep, I'm completely for it.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I would like if they kept Ike, he was after Diddy my most wanted for Brawl. But if he's being cut, I don't think Roy will come back either as he is BY FAR less relevant.

And if they cut Pokémon Trainer, why not Sheik? Lucario out is cool, but only if they bring back Mewtwo, and a new character (open for whoever). Kinda hope they keep Charizard to if the trainer is gone.

Toon Link depends if he returns in a game soon or not.

And dammit you guys are fast...

 

[Big-Cat]

Pokemon discussion huh?

*Leaves*

 

[Opelucid]

Har.

He also listed two other original characters. Why should they be cut? Pokemon Trainer is a freaking hack.

Your missing my point Pokemon Trainer brought something completely new to the plate like Olimar. Whether you think he's a hack or not he's one of the characters who I can't see getting cut



And who cares about Mewtwo? We aren't talking about him right now why does he have to get brought up with every single Pokemon discussion? I'm saying Pokemon Trainer shouldn't get cut because he was a creative idea that a lot of people didn't see coming. I've had enough of the Mewtwo talk should he come back? Sure why not but it's annoying to see him brought up every single day god damn

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Also, do you guys even at this point think ANY characters will get cut?

My guesses go to Solid Snake and Lucario. No one else.

 

[Pachinkosam]

this thread is soooo slow.

 

[Diddy Kong]

this thread is soooo slow.

Any big news?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I would like if they kept Ike, he was after Diddy my most wanted for Brawl. But if he's being cut, I don't think Roy will come back either as he is BY FAR less relevant.

Agreed.

And if they cut Pokémon Trainer, why not Sheik? Lucario out is cool, but only if they bring back Mewtwo, and a new character (open for whoever). Kinda hope they keep Charizard to if the trainer is gone.

If Trainer is cut, bringing back only Charizard seems silly. I'd rather have a new 1st Gen character. Snorlax is a nice choice, so is Meowth. And Sheik is still Zelda, so there's a bit of a difference here. As long as she's Zelda as well, she's connected to the character. I'd like for her to be replaced by Impa, but I don't honestly expect it.

Toon Link depends if he returns in a game soon or not.

Yep.

And dammit you guys are fast...

That's what she said.

 

[Opelucid]

this thread is soooo slow.

Gtfo your really starting to annoy me if you aren't going to contribute get out of here

Oh yeah any big news?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Any big news?

Can this question just stop?! There's no new news right now; wait until E3 2012 to see if anything new comes up.

 

[Opelucid]

Can this question just stop?! There's no new news right now; wait until E3 2012 to see if anything new comes up.

Tell that to sw96 he doesn't seem to understand when to stop asking that question.

Also I hope we get a stage from Mario Galaxy

 

[yani_]

Also, do you guys even at this point think ANY characters will get cut?

Honestly, no. Sm4sh will be an upgrade to Brawl, all of the characters data is already there, so there's really no reason to cut due to time. MAYBE Lucario seeing as Mewtwo & Pichu have gotten the pokeaxe, and the possibility of TL switching back to YL. The third parties are questionable but I think they'll stay too. I don't think Ike is in danger because he was a starting character for Brawl.

On that note, tis why I believe Dixie might have the upper hand over K.Rool, being she's part of the forbidden 7, there's already a part of her in there anyway.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Can this question just stop?! There's no new news right now; wait until E3 2012 to see if anything new comes up.

well it looks like everybody hates me.
am just playing around guys i can stop ween i fell like it.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Agreed.

Only Chrome seems to be 'dangerous' to Ike, but he could be a 3D

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S exclusive now that I think about it. But is 3 FE characters really too much?

If Trainer is cut, bringing back only Charizard seems silly. I'd rather have a new 1st Gen character. Snorlax is a nice choice, so is Meowth. And Sheik is still Zelda, so there's a bit of a difference here. As long as she's Zelda as well, she's connected to the character. I'd like for her to be replaced by Impa, but I don't honestly expect it.

Your right about Charizard in a logical sence, but don't underestimate his popularity either. I think up untill some point every one of us wanted him in Smash. I don't expect it to happen but it would be really cool.

Impa vs Sheik is 50/50. They could go the modern way, and choose Impa, or remain Sheik just because. I really hope for Impa, as I hope she will return in Zelda with a similar role as in SS. I don't see that happening with Sheik soon (then again, 3DS for Sheik, WiiU for Impa?).

Yep.

It's more likely to happen than not I think.

That's what she said.

Slow and steady wins the race dude

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Tell that to sw96 he doesn't seem to understand when to stop asking that question.

Also I hope we get a stage from Mario Galaxy

Maybe something like "Galaxy Cruise"? However, the main flaw with that idea would be that it copies Lylat Cruise.

well it looks like everybody hates me.
am just playing around guys i can stop ween i fell like it.

It's not that I dislike you, but I've seen that question several times already, and it's getting old.

 

[Pachinkosam]

well am just kidding around.

 

[Diddy Kong]

That's why I asked him that question But yeah, seeing it posted every day is kind of annoying. But am seeing the humor of it now...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Only Chrome seems to be 'dangerous' to Ike, but he could be a 3D

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S exclusive now that I think about it. But is 3 FE characters really too much?

Unfortunately, it seems so. 3 would be fine, but I'd rather Roy back that Ike myself. I was not a fan of him at all.

Your right about Charizard in a logical sence, but don't underestimate his popularity either. I think up untill some point every one of us wanted him in Smash. I don't expect it to happen but it would be really cool.

What I mean is this; Why only keep Charizard? The best part about Trainer was having 3 characters in 1. Not just one guy. I honestly consider it an all or nothing in this case.

Impa vs Sheik is 50/50. They could go the modern way, and choose Impa, or remain Sheik just because. I really hope for Impa, as I hope she will return in Zelda with a similar role as in SS. I don't see that happening with Sheik soon (then again, 3DS for Sheik, WiiU for Impa?).

To be honest, you could easily have both. Impa would be a LOT more powerful, and somewhat slower. More like how Donkey Kong and Bowser are actually pretty darn fast, despite being slow bruisers.

Slow and steady wins the race dude

Exactly.

 

[Opelucid]

well am just kidding around.

Well it's not funny it's annoying so seriously stop

 

[Pachinkosam]

you guys just made my day

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'll be back later. My batteries are almost completely deplated.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

A simple galaxy stage where there are some round planets with an assortment of things to interactive with on each one, and if you jump near one your gravity will lock onto that one and you can walk all around it, even while upside down, would suffice, in fact that is probably the best a Galaxy stage could be. I definitely want it, would be interesting.