New mexico lets get some power rankings!!!

[Sinz]

Lets be like Texas in this reguard. We have had multiple tournaments and we should be able to make a power rankings now. You guys have been saying to wait for one more tourney and we just had one more. So lets do it.

I will volunteer to be a panelist. if we can we should have 5 or 6.

 

[johnnylaw505]

I second dis shiz.

 

[ZMan]

I third it.

I volunteer myself to be a panelist.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Here you go:

1. DSF
2. Demised
3. 2cute
4. Tim
5. Forward
6. Sean B
7. Yamer
8. Idaho
9. Melee1
10. Dr. Bill Cosby

Seriously though, I'll be a panelist.

 

[In2D]

Haha, I like how Forward and Timmy on on it twice as well as yamer.

 

[Tee ay eye]

Haha, I like how Forward and Timmy on on it twice as well as yamer.

Timmy's on it three times.

 

[Melee1]

NM-Power Rankings

1. Cosby- Beat almost everyone
2. AlpahBravo- Most technical skill and uses more characters
3. Kashakunaki- Most offensive player
4. Sinz-Best Mindgames

This is my top 4 for New Mexico in my opinion after countless friendlies and tournament matches.

 

[Melee1]

Here you go:

1. DSF
2. Demised
3. 2cute
4. Tim
5. Forward
6. Sean B
7. Yamer
8. Idaho
9. Melee1
10. Dr. Bill Cosby

Seriously though, I'll be a panelist.

LOL

You only have one New mexico player on that list.

 

[Tee ay eye]

3. Kashakunaki- Most offensive player)

I don't play this game, but isn't that a bad thing?

 

[KosukeKGA]

I don't play this game, but isn't that a bad thing?

If what he says is true, Tai, then some major bull**** is flying around the fan.

yes, i am saying just that, that brawl IS highly luck compared to melee

trading hits, random air dodge to the ground with no landing lag, random tripping, which can happen during DDD chain grabs, air tripping as well, there's tons more luck in brawl than there is in melee, and far less guaranteed things. You don't anticipate the moves of noobs, they do random things, in melee you just **** them by being better, but if they are a campy noob, they can still do decent by just being a shield camping ***got. Melee has infinite room for improvement, without even needing to play gay. Brawl, if you play gay and boring, you have a SIGNIFICANTLY bigger advantage, and that's extremely boring and ********. Lack of things you can master makes the game less fun with less replay value, which are things melee offered to a huge extreme.

You can do things randomly and not get punished for it nearly as bad as you would in melee, and that's a downgrade for competitive potential, where the best player isn't as guaranteed to win, especially in 3 stock matches. You suicide once it's over, in melee comebacks were easy cuz of death combos and stuff, brawl is more leveled out for the little kiddies, and that's more unfair for the better players. All the advanced tactics aren't hard to do, like shield cancel, it just takes getting used to, and it's extremely shallow, anyone can do it, and it's also really really really campy and that makes the game not fun. Brawl wasn't designed to be competitive, Sakurai did this on purpose, stop trying to make it competitive. Actually, that's what I'm trying to do, but it's not working, so just go back to melee, everyone's fine with that.

I don't want to argue about this, NOTHING anyone says will change or persuade my opinion at ALL unless I convince myself that with my own observations which hasn't even become semi close to happening. I'll play brawl cuz everyone else is, that's the only reason.

Blind predictions are the perfect way to describe the game.

 

[Alphabravo]

I vote that the list is top 15 as opposed to previous lists (which were only top 10).

 

[johnnylaw505]

Haha hash I beat tim, demised and 2cute are the same person. I am become death, destroyer of worlds. I agree with Melee. I am top fortune cookie. Party party party. smoke weed every day.

 

[johnnylaw505]

1) Dr. Bill Cosby
2) Sinz
3) Goldenglove
4) Kash
5) Haters etc

 

[Alphabravo]

Also, there should be at least six panel members.

Sinz, Kash, Gluv, Twin A and/or Tw1n, Cosby, Chefman

Those are the players I believe should be on the panel. Since most smashers in NM are in Albuquerque it recieves the most panel members. Kash and Gluv will represent the East side while Sinz and one of the twins represents the west side. Cosby aka BTK aka Johnnylaw will represent farmington (which seems to be the city with the second highest amount of smashers in NM). Obviously, Chefman would be on the panel because he's the only player from the southern part of the NM who regularly attends tournaments.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Eh, I wouldn't say region should affect who should be on the panel. Not as much as tournament attendance, anyway. E.G., Farmington smashers don't need someone to "represent" them, they need to represent themselves by showing up to tournaments. Each panelist should rank players among the pool of people who regularly show up to tournaments, not the pool of random players in their respective region.

 

[Alphabravo]

It doesn't matter, the panel needs to consist of players from different regions, not just Albuquerque. Previous rankings only consisted of players from Albq. Also, from what I've heard, there are tournaments in Farmington and players from Farmington do attend them. They could be saying the same about us. After all, who from Albuquerque goes to tournaments in Farmington? We have no idea how the tournament scene is there.

Actually, forget it...let the rankings be biased and unfair. Who cares about smashers from Farmington and the southern part of NM. After all, we can judge how skilled they are based on the fact that we've never played them.

 

[Kashakunaki]

Error... error... reboot... system under attack by flame and childish behavior...

 

[GoldenGlove]

Who are you referring to, Davis?

Anyway, Paul, that's a good point regarding the Farmington scene. I guess I'm thinking in terms of Melee's rankings, when we did know what their scene was like, because Farmington had their own ranking thread. Back then it didn't matter that our whole panel was from ABQ., because when the top, ranked, players from Farmington came here they got destroyed, so it was pretty apparent that ABQ was the only city that mattered (This is of course on a state-wide basis. Nationally, none of NM mattered). Also keep in mind that I never said I was opposed to Cosby, Chefman, or anyone else being on the panel. I just said that regional affiliation shouldn't be the main criteria.

 

[Alphabravo]

That's fine, I just don't want Farmington to be neglected. Especially since Cosby finished third at Insomnia and beat Forward.

 

[Kashakunaki]

I was referring to Paul.

Actually, forget it...let the rankings be biased and unfair. Who cares about smashers from Farmington and the southern part of NM. After all, we can judge how skilled they are based on the fact that we've never played them.

Even with his point being valid, not the best way to express it.

I agree, though. The thing is we either need them to be active on Smashboards or have some other form of communication.

I still vote we use a point system.

 

[Sinz]

What is the point system?

Like 1-10th get points or something like that?
1st gets 10 points
2nd get 9?

I don't know.

 

[johnnylaw505]

Fudge the point system. You know how much gas is?! I would love to be there more and for every tourney but since the prize money or my source of income is not sufficient its unrealistic and unfair to use a point system. I understand if I, or anyone else from some off part of the state were to only come to ABQ once or twice a year to be on a lower aspect of the ranking system but I can make enough tournaments to show ( or at least attempt to show) that I am one of the top players in the state.

And Kash we did play in the tourney? I think we did.

but if you do decide to do the point system just know that I have every right to hold my own tourneys here in Farmington that have every right to produce points. And with my schedule I can hold almost daily tournaments. So if ABQ doesnt show up?

Thanks Alpha for da support son. (no sarcasm)

 

[Alphabravo]

I agree, it's difficult to attend every single tournament. What if someone were to miss several tournaments because of sickness/family matters/work/school? They would be punished severly simply because he/she was busy doing other things.

Take a look back at Melee and ABP. Even though he hardly ever attended tournaments, everyone knew he was still one of the best in state (and he proved it at the tournaments he did attend). As Paul said, if we were to go by a point system then players like himself and ABP wouldn't stand much of a chance.

Especially since Jason and X-Topia are trying to organize bi-weeklies for the smash community here in ALBQ.

 

[Kashakunaki]

What is the point system?

Like 1-10th get points or something like that?
1st gets 10 points
2nd get 9?

I don't know.

*sigh* I've provided like three different point systems on three different occasions.

Fudge the point system. You know how much gas is?! I would love to be there more and for every tourney but since the prize money or my source of income is not sufficient its unrealistic and unfair to use a point system. I understand if I, or anyone else from some off part of the state were to only come to ABQ once or twice a year to be on a lower aspect of the ranking system but I can make enough tournaments to show ( or at least attempt to show) that I am one of the top players in the state.

And Kash we did play in the tourney? I think we did.

but if you do decide to do the point system just know that I have every right to hold my own tourneys here in Farmington that have every right to produce points. And with my schedule I can hold almost daily tournaments. So if ABQ doesnt show up?

Thanks Alpha for da support son. (no sarcasm)

1. Actually, a point system would make it even more fair for you or other Farmington players, IMO.

2. We did play in the tournament.

I agree, it's difficult to attend every single tournament. What if someone were to miss several tournaments because of sickness/family matters/work/school? They would be punished severly simply because he/she was busy doing other things.

Take a look back at Melee and ABP. Even though he hardly ever attended tournaments, everyone knew he was still one of the best in state (and he proved it at the tournaments he did attend). As Paul said, if we were to go by a point system then players like himself and ABP wouldn't stand much of a chance.

Especially since Jason and X-Topia are trying to organize bi-weeklies for the smash community here in ALBQ.

So you're telling me the person who got first at one tournament should be held in higher standard over someone who gets, say, 3rd, 4th, maybe even 5th at almost every single tournament?

I disagree.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Ok, so it's obvious that everyone has different criteria for ranking people. So the system I propose is this. Each panelist submits their own top 15 list. #1 on each list gets 15 points, #2 gets 14 points, etc. Add up each player's totals across all the lists, and the person with the most points is #1, second most points is #2, etc. Then you get a little of every viewpoint. The Farmington panelist(s) is more likely to put Farmington players on their list, so they'll get points. The panelists who think players should be penalized for missing tournaments will put said players low, while the panelists who don't think they should be penalized will place them higher. It's the easiest and most effective way to get an amalgamation of every panelist's opinion.

 

[johnnylaw505]

There are two players from farmington. Me and Beave. So its not like we are aching to put farmington anywhere but where we deserve to be.

We need to have reasons why people are placed where they are. Because people are going to include friendlies and such. Now tournament rankings are not soley and absolutely THE criteria but rather who people have played. and whether or not they won.

 

[Kashakunaki]

That's a relatively effective way of doing it, but it still doesn't account for the future. After every tournament you want to just make another top 15 lists and add up the points?

I still say we create a point system.

 

[Alphabravo]

Ok, so it's obvious that everyone has different criteria for ranking people. So the system I propose is this. Each panelist submits their own top 15 list. #1 on each list gets 15 points, #2 gets 14 points, etc. Add up each player's totals across all the lists, and the person with the most points is #1, second most points is #2, etc. Then you get a little of every viewpoint. The Farmington panelist(s) is more likely to put Farmington players on their list, so they'll get points. The panelists who think players should be penalized for missing tournaments will put said players low, while the panelists who don't think they should be penalized will place them higher. It's the easiest and most effective way to get an amalgamation of every panelist's opinion.

I believe that's the way myself and the other panel members started the NM rankings for Melee a year ago. But as Davis said, that's only a starting point.

Whatever though, I think you guys should decide on a panel before deciding on how rankings are decided.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Just redo the list after every 3rd or 4th tournament. Or after every tournament, that's fine too. In all honesty, power rankings are just a pointless display of e-p3nis, so it doesn't matter how much or how little they fluctuate.

 

[johnnylaw505]

I want to be a panelist. And I agree with redoing the list every other tourney.

 

[xion07]

I hope I'm good enough to make it into the panel.

 

[Dekar173]

Panel > point list, for reasons cosby stated (he can't make all our tourneys, we can't make all his, let's just judge this based on everyone's opinions, if we have to have power-rankings at all in the first place ;D)



Anyone wanna lemme know what the next big tourney is going to be? o.o

 

[xion07]

I am going to host a tournament here in the next 3 weeks. I will post the info where the location and cost will be.

Everyone look out for the post and tell me if you will be interested.

 

[Dekar173]

xion mind posting date asap? Gotta give two weeks for a request to have the day off and I'd rather be able to do that than just call in like I'm doing for tomorrow =p

 

[xion07]

I'm hosting it on the 23 or 24 of this month. Does that sound ok?

 

[xion07]

I'll post the tourney in a new topic.

 

[Sinz]

editting posts is for the win.

 

[xion07]

Ok everyone, the tourney for the 23 is posted!

 

[johnnylaw505]

After CO tourney we need rankings for SURE.

 

[Alphabravo]

After some reconsideration, I actually wouldn't mind being a panel member. Perhaps the lead panel member again.