new "infinite" discovered (plasma locking... stupid zamus)

[edde]

so, well yeah, this weeks been pretty much ********, first bowser infinite, then this... read vid description for more info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twmael0o3Ho (im not the discoveror and vid is not mine)

- seems to work properly on all chars except for lucas, ness and jiggz
- its not infinite since some chars escape it at around 200%+
- seems to be a real combo
- dont know if it can be DI'd out, i think you can DI during her up+b to the other side so you land behind zamus to avoid the stunner
- dont know if you can tech out of it
- its basically an up+b spike followed by 2 down smashes by an upb spike by 2 downsmashes....

 

[Wildfire393]

I hate to break it to you, but a simple tech foils this every single time. This has been posted many times on the Zamus forum, and has been debunked every time.

 

[Crizthakidd]

pretty epic. i hate ZSS users tho >=O they give me the hardest time. and now this. freaking cheap. that was like instant 300% in 5 seconds. i bet at some point u can learn to tech out of it quickly right? O.o or counterpick jiggs vs zss xD

 

[kamekasu]

Looks like "ToonStacey's lil brother (Troy Aith K.)" doesn't know how to tech roll. Or DI.

 

[edde]

hmmm... still, i smartly put infinite between "s... which means, i dbouted it was an infinite, but this might be a zamus comob then XD

dsmash dsmash upb

anyways, i dont know zamus stuff cause the last time i fought a zamus was about 3 monthes ago, nobody likes her here i guess

 

[kamekasu]

Not even a combo, at low percents it is incredibly easy to escape the D-smash because of negligible hitstun off of the Up-B, and you can tech roll even if they do it at high percents. Not to mention you can DI away from the Up-B.

 

[DiasFlac]

My older bro tried it on me a while ago but I prove to him that it doesn't work. Just DI out of it.

Nothing to see here ppl moving on...

 

[edde]

Not even a combo, at low percents it is incredibly easy to escape the D-smash because of negligible hitstun off of the Up-B, and you can tech roll even if they do it at high percents. Not to mention you can DI away from the Up-B.

think youre not understanding right the sequence i say

downsmash downsmash upb

downsmash (stun) downsmash(stun 2 that should make him go flying away) upb (quick enough to not make him fly away, to score the combo's final hit)

the combo does not include the possible downsmash after the upb

 

[ph00tbag]

Welcome to five months ago. Stuff like dsmashx2 -> Plasma Wire is a ZSS main's bread and butter.

 

[fkacyan]

Rofl, you're a nub.

First off, the way you're doing only works up to around 70%, and they come down standing up.

Second, you have to move behind them to avoid their DI, but they can still tech it.

Over 70% it's mildly useful if they don't regularly tech, and it can lead to some nice damage, but this is pretty dumb.

 

[PeteBeast]

edde, you're a ******. Oh and... BARBIE COMBO!

 

[mariofanpm12]

plasma locking is a cool name...

anyways, though, it seems like you could tech or DI out of it relatively quickly.

 

[DiasFlac]

Rofl, you're a nub.

First off, the way you're doing only works up to around 70%, and they come down standing up.

Second, you have to move behind them to avoid their DI, but they can still tech it.

Over 70% it's mildly useful if they don't regularly tech, and it can lead to some nice damage, but this is pretty dumb.

just because he didn't know you could escape it doesn't make him a nub.

and you guys wonder how flames get started on this site?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Well, it's a good way to punish stupid people. Talk about n00b killer.

 

[Adapt]

Well, it's a good way to punish stupid people. Talk about n00b killer.

QFT

you have to be pretty lucky to get this to work more than once on anyone decent

 

[Tokerella]

belongs in ZCD if anything..

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

I've tested this out a bit. You can DI and tech out of it, so it's not an infinite. Pretty good combo though.

 

[fkacyan]

I've tested this out a bit. You can DI and tech out of it, so it's not an infinite. Pretty good combo though.

As I've said, to avoid DI you have to move behind them and use the upB right as the dsmash stun pops off. They have a short while within which they can't DI / jump / dodge, and if spaced properly you'll catch them.

That said, this is techable and only works past 70%. The version you do pre-70% works like in the video but they come downs standing up and tend to shield / punish your dsmash.

 

[ShowMeYaMoves]

What is the Bowser infinite?

 

[fkacyan]

What is the Bowser infinite?

Something else that doesn't actually work.

 

[vorpal]

Bowser infinite is a grab infinite. Not sure if it's been debunked yet but I'm pretty sure you can smash DI out of it.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

The Bowser infinite would work to a good extent if his pummel wasn't so slow...

Actually, it's still a nice way to set up stuff.

 

[Gamer212]

Tags on this thread are awesome. "thiocyanide is a noob"

 

[storm92]

Not only is this not infinite, but it's been known for quite a while on the ZSS boards.

 

[TerenceLau]

was it a dbr combo i saw? it looked nice though. props to that.