Need help for "Vegetables"

[SoraDreamer]

I just began to use Peach but I cannot use correctly the move Vegetable. I thought to use one of the costums but I prefer to be good with the original. I see some combos with the Vegetables but even when I follow the instructions of some videos, I simply cannot use well those Vegetables. Someone can help me to use them? Or should I use a costum move?

 

[Vyledust]

Are you talking about the basic turnip? It has a lot of uses. Always have one in your hand. Edge guard, approach, defensive. How are you using it currently?

 

[SoraDreamer]

Yes the basic turnips. I would like to use them correctly but I don't know how. I thought to switch for a costum but I heard about the uses of the original so I want to use them.

Now, I am just using them some moments to throw them just for saying I'm using them but I know it is not the right way. Can you help me please?

 

[HeeroOfTheSkys]

I use them for spacing and generally to keep my opponent off his game. They can also be used 2 make ur approach easier and safer. Lastly another great use for them is stopping ur opponent from getting back on stage

I could be wrong but personally I dont think there is anything wrong with just throwing them sometimes. I mean if ur opponent is always having 2 worry about the turnips ur throwing then u r already gimping there gameplay which is a plus.

There are plenty of ways turnips can be used and I dont think there is really a wrong way 2 apply them, also as a side note if u want 2 get a bit of extra range on ur turnips u can press forward A like u would a smash attack and they will go even further than normal

 

[Latte]

In addition to what has already been said, you can drop them while you're hopping/flying over your opponent. I forgot which button is drop, but I think it's whatever grab is set to.

Also, if you have a turnip in your hand when you see that your opponent is approaching, you can throw the turnip up; countless times I've had the turnip hit and/or interrupt combos when it falls.

 

[Airgemini]

Throwing them out of shield works wonders.

 

[SoraDreamer]

I never understood this technic of "Thowing out of shield". Is it hard to do?

I also heard about the "Turnip Throw Cancel" and "Turnip Pull Cancel.". Can you tell me more about these technics?

 

[SoraDreamer]

There is also this technic I'm trying to do but I just cannot even if I follow the instructions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9X6zdsp3w

 

[Latte]

I never understood this technic of "Thowing out of shield". Is it hard to do?

I also heard about the "Turnip Throw Cancel" and "Turnip Pull Cancel.". Can you tell me more about these technics?

To throw a turnip out of shield, all you do is
1. Hold a turnip
2. Shield
3. Press A

Info regarding turnip pull cancelling/throw cancelling can be found here.

 

[SoraDreamer]

What is special with the "Turnip out of shield" technic? I mean, you just throw your turnip while you have your shield? What's the utility of this? When is it useful to do it? And why?

And I still don't understand the Turnip throw cancel. Yiu do the animation of throwing it but you don't?

 

[Latte]

What is special with the "Turnip out of shield" technic? I mean, you just throw your turnip while you have your shield? What's the utility of this? When is it useful to do it? And why?

And I still don't understand the Turnip throw cancel. Yiu do the animation of throwing it but you don't?

You can block an attack, then instantly punish the attack with a turnip. I generally do this when I have a stitch-face turnip (stitch face turnips are the turnips with the largest amount of knockback and damage) so that my hit is guaranteed.


For reference, this is a stitch face turnip:

I'm not a Peach main, so I don't really understand the cancelling moves either, TBH. Hopefully someone else who knows more can give you some pointers.

 

[itrombe]

Turnip drop (Grab/Z) into back air is a simple combo that can help you get used to the turnip's awkward throw and fall speeds.

 

[SoraDreamer]

Me neither I'm not a Peach main, but I like her a bit. I knew about the StitchFace Turnip. The dot-shaped eyes turnip is the second stronger too. But thank you for the help you gave me. It already helped me a lot.

 

[SoraDreamer]

Turnip drop (Grab/Z) into back air is a simple combo that can help you get used to the turnip's awkward throw and fall speeds.

When you said " Grab/Z", the Z is for a Wii Remote with Nunchuck, right? So you have to do an aerial dodge?

 

[itrombe]

When you're holding a turnip, press your grab button, and you'll drop it. Immediately out of the drop, you can aerial; done while you're touching the turnip, you'll grab it again, but otherwise it still does the same damage as a regular turnip throw.

 

[Vyledust]

For edgeguarding, just anticipate their recovery path and have the turnip hit them at the best time so they can not. That is so satisfying to me.

 

[SoraDreamer]

When you're holding a turnip, press your grab button, and you'll drop it. Immediately out of the drop, you can aerial; done while you're touching the turnip, you'll grab it again, but otherwise it still does the same damage as a regular turnip throw.

This technic I can do it ! I just have some difficulties sometimes to do my aerial fast enough to catch it. Sometimes it falls faster than me. I just think I'm not dropping it when I'm at the higher point of my jump. But I don't see also the utility to do this because:
1. you can do aerial while you are floating even if you have a turnip (you can't throw a turnip while floating)
2. you cannot do this technic if you move in the air, you have to be jumping without horizontal movements
3. you can pluck another turnip just after. (Is it COMPULSORY to have one in PERMANENCE???).

 

[SoraDreamer]

Finally, I just discovered that the Turnip Pull Cancelling (by sliding) was "fixed", removed, with the patch 1.0.4.

 

[Piano]

I think everything's been said. They serve many uses and I don't think there's a bad way of using them (unless you throw them to the ground while on it, of course). But I need to clarify that you can actually throw a turnip while you're floating, using the B button.

 

[SoraDreamer]

Oh thank you, I didn't know that, but me, I was talking when we press A. It's real I forgot to say this. It is just that iTrope give me a tip to do an aerial while I am holding a Turnip because if I press A in the air, I throw it. But If I have a turnip while I'm floating and I press A to do an aerial, I'll do an aerial and I won't throw the Turnip. But thank you I didn't know I could throw it with B if I float.

Any other tips?

 

[Latte]

I think everything's been said. They serve many uses and I don't think there's a bad way of using them (unless you throw them to the ground while on it, of course). But I need to clarify that you can actually throw a turnip while you're floating, using the B button.

Really? I had no idea; thanks for pointing that out!

Finally, I just discovered that the Turnip Pull Cancelling (by sliding) was "fixed", removed, with the patch 1.0.4.

Oh, that sucks. No wonder it wasn't working for me when I was trying to get it right earlier.

 

[SoraDreamer]

Me too I was wondering why it wasn't working for me but now I know why. And it really sucks indeed. This technic looks (or looked) really useful.

I hope I'll learn other ways to use these famous turnips. Or just to play Peach at her best.

 

[Piano]

Sorry you can't do it with B (since it sends Toad) but with down B, although it cancels the float right after throwing the turnip.

 

[SoraDreamer]

Ahh ok but it doesn't really matter because we juste have to stop floating if we want to throw the turnip. It's not as hard