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My vs diddy tips

ADHD

Smash Hero
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This matchup is annoying for the king and I have experience on both sides, at least enough to help anyone.

Pros: You **** him offstage. You're heavy, and difficult to KO for diddy. You have far better range. Your grabs are very valuable and can stop him in his tracks. You're utilt kills him at 100ish, Fsmash at ridiculously dumb percents. Inhale is good but situational.

Cons: He's agile, and difficult to hit. You get ***** onstage by bananas. You cannot simply hop over everything, because the peanut gun and fair will take care of that. Hard to land the KO finisher. No glide toss (massive disadvantage.) Fat, easily combo'd. Damage racks up FAST on you. You get pressured like hell and it can get to your head.

His recovery: This is where d3 has the biggest advantage, d3 ***** diddy's up b with any aerial. If you can predict when he's going to side B to recover, then you can aerial it (he can use his side b again, so keep hitting him until he is forced to use his up b.) Your up b meteor spike ***** his rocket barrels, you spike him, and the barrels hit you and keep you to survive. Keep this in mind, because the meteor spike can come in handy if you're both recovering offstage.

Onstage: Onstage, I'm sorry but you're going to be playing very carefully and slow. Diddy ***** d3 alot because the bananas are so difficult for d3 to get around since he's fat as hell and he doesn't have a glide toss (I don't think he does, even if he does its garbage). Chaingrab him. Without the chaingrab, this matchup would be ridiculously difficult but you can even it out with this simple thing. Chaingrab him offstage at any opportunity you possibly have. Suppose there is a banana in the way of your chaingrab, just throw him backwards and pick it up.

If he dash attacks into your shield, his dash attack is lagless so he can even grab you or upsmash you if you dare to shield grab him. So shield grab very carefully after the last kick of his dash attack. Now, you will be dealing with his glide tossing alot, he will follow a glide toss with grabs, dash attacks most commonly, Fsmashes, dsmash, and anything else really. If you shield the glide tossed banana roll backwards, since you will be pressured like hell he will probably grab you if you're shielding.

Diddy cannot kill you from afar, and if he wants to camp you with his peanut gun (which is viable because you can't approach him very easily) then camp waddle dees and airdodge pick up the peanuts. Instead of picking the bananas up with your dash attack or pressing A while walking, full hop dair picks them up right off the ground safely without the expense of being punished by tripping. Ftilt is very good onstage because of its range especially if he doesn't have a banana in his hand. You have to grab him alot if he's in his crazy naner mode to get him away so you can pick up the bananas. Inhale can stop him from following up a far away glide toss and can dispose of some bananas far away but if you use it wrong, you will be severely punished. When he's on the ledge, use the full hop dair just a bit more to stop him from getting back up.

Offstage: **** his recovery, bair is the best choice I think because of its long-lasting hitbox (kindof) and if he tries to side B the weaker hit may hit him. He can get back on the stage from even a full WoP so if he's getting back to the ledge and aiming his rocket barrels towards it, use an nair to interupt it so he falls down and then edgehog again.

DI'ing his fsmash: You will most likely get fsmashed from a successfully landed glide toss from up close so keep it in mind that if you are very observant you can DI it. You hold towards him you're caught in it close to his body, and if you're far away, DI up and away. This makes it not able to kill you if successfully DI'd and negates some of the damage.

Good stages: Lylat cruise is good because the stage can gimp his recovery alone by it moving haha. Rainbow cruise (don't need to explain this, just watch out for the spikes), smashville is okay because it's hard for him to combo you into oblivion, and he has less room to camp and space himself away from you. Yoshi's island is great, that platform interfers with his bananas.

Bad stages: Fd, he combos you like crazy on here and it's difficult to get in close. Battlefield is okay, but it can be harder to avoid the bananas.

That's all I got really, just watch out for his dsmash it's the best option to kill you. This matchup is very difficult but if you know how to handle it I'd say it's almost even but diddy still has the advantage you just really have to get him
offstage.

Good diddy vs d3 videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkJ5z_IOkeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4shH1TL4LmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po2tmufbFDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KGHnPIlE8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99TPAANzHio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB5YsngjA6c
 

J-Money

Smash Apprentice
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very good stuff. I play against a diddy and once he gets me with bananas its a cluster****
 

Gates

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Let's keep this thread bumped, I'd like to revisit it in 4 weeks.
 

ADHD

Smash Hero
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hah eat it co18 i finally beat you now i can take on my d3 problems at "montage" hopefully

I'll still get ***** by atomsk if ever play him offline
 
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