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my snakedash is fail

hyperhopper

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my contact snackdash is fine, my only problem is if the opponent isnt there! how can i do it otherwise?

i tried and tried no go

mostly c-up - c-down

or a - cdown
 

TMaples

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Yeah, I have problem with my non-contact snakedash too. So you dash, then hit down on the c-stick, then up on the c-stick and Z, all in rapid succession?
 

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Yeah, I have problem with my non-contact snakedash too. So you dash, then hit down on the c-stick, then up on the c-stick and Z, all in rapid succession?
almost, but no. dash, c-stick down, then control stick up+z
Although, personally i find i easiest to dash, twitch the c-stick (any direction), then slam it up.

*EDIT*
curse my slow typing!
 

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Silly GC users ;). Using nunchuck and placing 4th at HOBO 12 feels a little bit kool :bee:
Wiimote nunchuck way ->Run->Press A to do dash attack->Perform an upsmash normally.
Simple as that but you have to be really quick. :D
 

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Silly GC users ;). Using nunchuck and placing 4th at HOBO 12 feels a little bit kool :bee:
Wiimote nunchuck way ->Run->Press A to do dash attack->Perform an upsmash normally.
Simple as that but you have to be really quick. :D
Putting Shake Smash on actually makes it easier but you have to be more careful when playing otherwise you may accidentally smash. Also, I have yet to be able to pull it off like how you mentioned on a Wiimote+Nunchuck.

Heads Up:

Go do Sheiks DACUS with a Wiimote+Nunchuck. ;) I dare you to try. Gamecube is the only way to go.

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Putting Shake Smash on actually makes it easier but you have to be more careful when playing otherwise you may accidentally smash. Also, I have yet to be able to pull it off like how you mentioned on a Wiimote+Nunchuck.

Heads Up:

Go do Sheiks DACUS with a Wiimote+Nunchuck. ;) I dare you to try. Gamecube is the only way to go.

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Don't get too crazy now. Shake smash fails :p But i do it perfectly fine.

Edit: Oh no sir...the way i do it only works with snake lol. Others they just do their dash attack, it suddenly stops, and then does an up smash LOL

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it's not that hard to do the no contact snake dash with c-stick. it's just a rhythm you gotta get used to. like everyone says.. just c-stick down and up in a fluid motion and you're done. there's also a slight visual cue from snake when he begins to tumble in his dash attack is where you hit the c-stick up for the mortar
 

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it's not that hard to do the no contact snake dash with c-stick. it's just a rhythm you gotta get used to. like everyone says.. just c-stick down and up in a fluid motion and you're done. there's also a slight visual cue from snake when he begins to tumble in his dash attack is where you hit the c-stick up for the mortar
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DonQuixote

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Isnt it better to do it with the contorl stick and z cuz you can charge it, but if you just use c-stick you cant?
 

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I don't know how to do this technique.

I wish someone would make a video explaining it to me.


JP. Seriously once you know how to do it, it becomes very natural. Compared to wavedashing, this technique is cake.
I learned how to wavedash by WATCHING a Luigi do it in tourney.

It took me 2 weeks to learn how to do it with Snake after being TOLD how to do it.

Not easier :laugh: (at least, it wasn't for me)

/took me a night to master Sheik's DAC\
 

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It took me 2 weeks to learn how to do it with Snake after being TOLD how to do it.

Not easier :laugh: (at least, it wasn't for me)

/took me a night to master Sheik's DAC\
Wow really I find Snakedashing WAY easier than Wavedashing.

Sheiks DAC is ridiculous though, even after tons of practice I'm only 60% effective in a match.
 

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Always cancel with Z, no matter what you do.

The mortar goes farther with Z and you can charge it.

Once you get it down (took me about a week), it is ridiculously natural.
 

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Putting Shake Smash on actually makes it easier but you have to be more careful when playing otherwise you may accidentally smash. Also, I have yet to be able to pull it off like how you mentioned on a Wiimote+Nunchuck.

Heads Up:

Go do Sheiks DACUS with a Wiimote+Nunchuck. ;) I dare you to try. Gamecube is the only way to go.

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its even easier if you set the Dpad to smashes, dash, down on the D-pad then slide to up

GCC is still easiest by far though >.>
 

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Silly GC users ;). Using nunchuck and placing 4th at HOBO 12 feels a little bit kool :bee:
Wiimote nunchuck way ->Run->Press A to do dash attack->Perform an upsmash normally.
Simple as that but you have to be really quick. :D
wow you can use the wiimote for brawl dam i never knew people used it.
 

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Down-C-Stick, then Up+Z right after.

Mind watching my video guide?
Advanced Techniques: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iyi_hMr0Ww

I explain the easy way to do it, and also insult you all in one. ;)
Exactly how to do it on the Game cube, the Up + Z has to be a half second behind. After a bunch of practice it'll be a habit. I find Snakes Mortar Slide a ton easier than Falco's, and I don't find either one of 'em hard. Don't worry it'll take practice
 

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Setting Grab to a shoulder button lets you time it perfectly, you don't have to delay it by half a second like with Z. <___<
 

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Wow really I find Snakedashing WAY easier than Wavedashing.

Sheiks DAC is ridiculous though, even after tons of practice I'm only 60% effective in a match.
lol my wii was broken yesterday, and i was playing melee and trying to figure out how to wavedash with my mains (luigi and THE DOC!)
 

hyperhopper

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no matter how much i practice now, 1/2 the time i do a running grab, and 1/4 of the time i do a dash attack!

help please!!!!!

thx!
 

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no matter how much i practice now, 1/2 the time i do a running grab, and 1/4 of the time i do a dash attack!

help please!!!!!

thx!
dash>c stick down>up + Z

its not hard, just practice, and its not like we can show you through the internet >.>
 

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My advice to all newer Snake's learning the slide is to use the Dash---> C-Down----> Z + Up motion. It takes a while to get sometimes. I spent days just doing nothing but practicing it in Training until I could do it 100 times consecutively. Sometimes it IS the controller imo. But once you get it its second nature I swear. Some people get it off the bat and others need time. Regardless of which one you are just practice and you will get it, Its worth it.
 

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I Use classic controller and find it better than the game controller cube for everything. I find it really hard to use c-stick down=> up+ Z. To do snakes dash cancel I hit c-stick down => c-stick up. Hope this isn’t a bad habit.
 

Mi1oo

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Hmm okay that's good. But i didn't know if it was because i was useing the classic controller or not. I think everyone agrees the classic and gamecube controller are prity much the same anyway right?
 
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This is what I did to make the timing eaiser on the GCC.

Since you have to Dash > Dash Attack > Upsmash. You want to configure your controller to something that works for you to be able to do that. For me I use the GCC, so I do it similar to the Dash> Down C-Stick> Up + Z that everyone mentions.

Although that requires timing of 3 things. Hitting the C-Stick, Up on the control stick and pushing Z in the correct manner. Well, if you start your dash by putting the control stick into the upper left or right hand corner and keep it there for the duration of the combination, this will keep you running and act like the control stick is in the up position. So all you would have do is time the C-Stick and Z pressing timing.

Also if you were like me and found that you keep hitting Z sooner than down on the C-stick, move your option to the L or R trigger. This helps add delay to your timing as you have to push down farther to get the attack to trigger.

That is what I do.
 

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look... the down c-stick -> up + Z may be confusing for people to read this

to reiterate this meaning. when you begin dashing forward. as you hit c-stick down, you then rotate the analog stick in a quarter-circle motion (hadouken like) to up. as you are doing that rotation, hit z and you'll see the magical effect of snake dashing...

Then there's always the c-stick only method of hitting it down and up on it which is my preferred method... but no one really cares about that from what i've seen...

ok. i guess a simple video will explain this better... I'll get that up by... tomorrow night if there's more confusion on how to do it...
 

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I'm having the same problem with the non-contact snakedash. But i found that the technique using the cdown and z up was kinda hard for me. So i will try the cstick any direction and then flick it up method. I mostly use: dash, hit opponent and then c up upon hitting them.

But yeah if anyone else can help with the no contact dash, then that would be great! thanks.

Edit: I tried up+z after a dash but have a hard time doing it. I mostly use the c stick up. Anyone know the correct Timing of the c stick up? Is it right when he enters the dash? when does Snake tumble in the dash?
 

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I'm having the same problem with the non-contact snakedash. But i found that the technique using the cdown and z up was kinda hard for me. So i will try the cstick any direction and then flick it up method. I mostly use: dash, hit opponent and then c up upon hitting them.

But yeah if anyone else can help with the no contact dash, then that would be great! thanks.

Edit: I tried up+z after a dash but have a hard time doing it. I mostly use the c stick up. Anyone know the correct Timing of the c stick up? Is it right when he enters the dash? when does Snake tumble in the dash?
when he's about to tumble you hit it up. to get the feeling correctly of flicking it from down to up is a smooth motion, don't do it too fast. I'm still working on a quick video... bare with me since exams are whopping me
 

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Alright, thanks a ton. I guess i was doing it too fast. I'll try to go slower. Would dashing while holding the c stick down, and then flicking it up at the last second work? Srry for all those questions earlier.
 

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to reiterate this meaning. when you begin dashing forward. as you hit c-stick down, you then rotate the analog stick in a quarter-circle motion (hadouken like) to up. as you are doing that rotation, hit z and you'll see the magical effect of snake dashing...
huh??????

10whatishadokens
 

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I find it way easier to set another button to attack than using standard Dash->Cstickdown->upz. I changed R to attack, because i need two attack buttons to do it with sheik.. so I keep it for other characters too. Seems easier to me.
 
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