My idea for SSB4

[Serilei]

Ok, welcome to my idea that I started last year, I will say that I rushed it to get done in 2 weeks, and this
was definitely not enough time to define characters and really smooth things out. So down below you will see old ideas
and what is coming for new ideas. I as well as others believe that the character roster could be shortened down
and less 3rd party characters in it.

The only reason alot of those got added was because there were on a Nintendo platform at once point, so somewhere
I figured that Nintendo could use them again.

Now I originally posted this whole Smash brothers idea and roster and character on Smash Brothers Wikia, which
you can check here. > http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:My_SSB_Universe_Idea!

NOTE! There are alot of ideas, and over 100+ characters there were placed within this roster.
So on the Smash Wikia you will not find all the characters and ideas, so I encourage you to visit my Deviantart
page. http://rosegardeninhell.deviantart.com/gallery/33034399?offset=0

There are 2 pages worth of SUPER HD images totaling at 5000 x 3000 (If not more) pixels. Again, I spent a measly
2 weeks putting this together, and it was not enough time. I have a problem of rushing my ideas because I am afraid
that I will forget or mess up.

So I know there are alot of weird things going on in this idea, and roster, and Right now it is all
being revised on a notepad. I do not know if I will make a simple graphic idea of it, but I highly doubt I will redo
the roster on PS, it could take days, and I dont have the time right now. If you want to do it, I will send you the
Photoshop files by a Filesharing site, the file make be between 150mb - 600mb, there is alot.

Also I would like to note, that I understand that Microsoft owns Rare characters like Conker and Banjo.

But, now, we shall start the show.

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Ok one day I was sitting at work, and I was really bored, so I started brainstorming for an idea for what I called at
the time Super Smash Brothers Universe, because I saw the name before and it was all I could think of. So I took the original
idea of older Smash Brothers roster games and put it together, in which terms, I came up with I think 65 characters, and put
it together, which below is the old idea of the Roster.

But after a while, I started to feel that it was too cluttered, I had waaaay too many characters to need to put on the screen.
Hell, even at one point I thought of a rotating Smash Ball that you could spin and pick characters (I may PS this later).

But, I kept brainstorming, and thought about teams, not only does this unclutter the screen, it even compacts the roster, but
only in a clean neat way that is easy to navigate. It ended up being something like this.

I of course would still like to refine this idea into something cooler, but with teams. Ideas are welcome

Also some of these teams are going to disappear like Team Chrono, Team Mana etc, and will be refined into
a simple category, because there is no reason to have one character in a team folder, so they will be recategorized.

Now again, the idea is for teams, and for example, you click the TEAM MARIO icon, once you click it, it highlights Red and
all shiny and stuff, and the TEAM MARIO character hexagons spread out to form the Team, in which you can pick a character.

And upon this, there are also alternative or AKA Alter Egos of the characters that (when) you click on for example MARIO,
you will have the hexagons of FLUDD Mario and Shadow Mario show up (The characters will change in future ideas)

This will go for every other team as well; Team Zelda, DK, FZero, Sonic, etc etc.. They all have something with them.

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There are many other ideas I have implemented into this, for example, new pokemon teams, a few levels, even added stuff
from the game LIMBO. I am not sure if you know what it is. But check out all this stuff below.

Example of Pokemon team.

Example of Limbo

DKC returns level (screen capped from Dolphin)

There are tons of ideas for this, and I want everyone to join in, throw some ideas in and lets discuss.

REMEBER!! Check the folder on my Deviantart with these Smash bros teams and other stuff. I am still adding photos, so make sure to
check back on my dA regularly.

ALSO! I am revising the characters list right now, again, so give me some time.

AND one more thing, I know there are some oddities in character choices and such, but like I told someone, when I put these characters
in like Pauline for example, I believe that Sora and his team can make this character work, because them as a team
are geniuses and professionals and their ideas can far surpass mine, so I added the characters in hope that Team sora can make this work.
They have done fine jobs so far in all the other characters.

On Page 2 Post #30 There is a list of characters being worked on, you are more than welcome to add or subtract or give ideas.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14903640&postcount=30

On page 3, Post 32 a newer idea for a character selection screen, and how to make it easier to select your character without wasting time or making a person choose one at a time.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14904301&postcount=32

Page 4, post 46 NEWEST idea for Character Select Screen. http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14905746&postcount=46

 

[jigglover]

This is an absolutely brilliant idea Serilei! It menas that lots more characters can be added in the teams, it doesn't look like there are lots and lots on the screen, but then you click on a team/series and it expands, then another click brings up alter egos and costumes of that character! It could definitely work, the only problem is sending it to Sakurai in a manner that would make him use it! :/ (Just for the record shadow mario should be under bowser junior.)

Edit: That's funny! I literally just caught a mawile on pokemon XD and then that picture came up with her in! Who's the pokemon furthest to the left though? And what does that picture above signify?

 

[Serilei]

This is an absolutely brilliant idea Serilei! It menas that lots more characters can be added in the teams, it doesn't look like there are lots and lots on the screen, but then you click on a team/series and it expands, then another click brings up alter egos and costumes of that character! It could definitely work, the only problem is sending it to Sakurai in a manner that would make him use it! :/ (Just for the record shadow mario should be under bowser junior.)

I added a few more pics, not sure if you saw it, but thanks for the feedback, and you know what though? Ive literally tried to blow up his twitter with this information, but I am not sure if he ever saw it, or just cant comment on it, not sure.

But also you get my idea, I wanted to shorten the main screen into teams so it isnt cluttered. But now that I think of it, there are alot more characters I could add.

Edit: The pic on the left is Nidoking (you know Nidoran, Nidorino, Nidoking)

And that game above is Limbo, which I highly recommend to play, it is so mystic and creepy and twisted. I love that game.

 

[jigglover]

Sorry, I'm tired, I meant pokemon furthest to the right...
I haven't heard of Limbo, I'll look it up soon.
This is by far my favourite idea for the game, I don't know if you mentioned this on smash wikia (I'm going on there in a sec) but you should be able to tell the AI to just pick characters from one series on the character select screen, so it's still random but it won't include a character that you don't like it being! Also, I'd take the (now old) out of the title, it could repel people from this amazing idea, and just put in the OP that you know conkers and banjo-kazzoie are owned by rare which is owned by microsoft etc....

 

[Serilei]

Sorry, I'm tired, I meant pokemon furthest to the right...
I haven't heard of Limbo, I'll look it up soon.
This is by far my favourite idea for the game, I don't know if you mentioned this on smash wikia (I'm going on there in a sec) but you should be able to tell the AI to just pick characters from one series on the character select screen, so it's still random but it won't include a character that you don't like it being! Also, I'd take the (now old) out of the title, it could repel people from this amazing idea, and just put in the OP that you know conkers and banjo-kazzoie are owned by rare which is owned by microsoft etc....

All good, it is 5:46pm here, so i feel tired as well lol.

Good good, Limbo is awesome.

Yeah that link i left was for smash wikia, but it was just too much to copy, so I just left a link.

I will go edit that in a second, good idea.

Also that is zoroark, some 5th generation pokemon from Black and White, they made a movie about it, pretty awesome.

 

[jigglover]

How old IS this? I thought it could've been old Zoroark, but It might have been my mind was blank. I had a look at smash wikia, and I'm somehow even more for the idea, your PT trios seem a little unbalanced, but it's good. On the one in the OP on here, Nidoking's the Charizard, zoroark is Squirtle and Mawile Ivysaur? It makes sense with their attributes, but what about on smash wikia, Infernape, Weavile and P&M (plusle and minun). They are all very swift, quick characters, and P&M would be completely unique to the original three, maning that trainer one would focus on speed, whereas the others are well rounded. If you want to do three trainers, I'd do something like Scyther Weavile and P&M for the speedy one, Tyranitar, Dragonite and Nidoking for the powerhouses, and then Mawile, Loudred and Meowth for the trainer in-between. So it basically triples PT in brawl. We can make this happen - somehow!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

The stage select thing is an interesting idea. The only problem would be with characters who either don't neatly fit into a give "team" or with characters who are the only representative of their franchise.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Team Ike? lol

Spoiler

Team Bomberman>>>>All

 

[Serilei]

How old IS this? I thought it could've been old Zoroark, but It might have been my mind was blank. I had a look at smash wikia, and I'm somehow even more for the idea, your PT trios seem a little unbalanced, but it's good. On the one in the OP on here, Nidoking's the Charizard, zoroark is Squirtle and Mawile Ivysaur? It makes sense with their attributes, but what about on smash wikia, Infernape, Weavile and P&M (plusle and minun). They are all very swift, quick characters, and P&M would be completely unique to the original three, maning that trainer one would focus on speed, whereas the others are well rounded. If you want to do three trainers, I'd do something like Scyther Weavile and P&M for the speedy one, Tyranitar, Dragonite and Nidoking for the powerhouses, and then Mawile, Loudred and Meowth for the trainer in-between. So it basically triples PT in brawl. We can make this happen - somehow!

According to the image uploaded it says October 6th 2011 when I finished it.

as for the Pokemon trio thing, I honestly didnt think about powerhouse, speed, etc, I literally went through all 600+ and just thought, could this fit in ssb and play out right?

I had loudred as an idea too, but he seemed to remind me of Wario lol and short and bulky.

But I like the idea, and the reason for Mawile was because of the jaw head thing, it would work so well for ssb.

If you have any ideas, throw them together on a jpg and post it :D

Also I posted the link to the photobucket with stuff in it, and I also posted a DKC returns level idea.

 

[jigglover]

The stage select thing is an interesting idea. The only problem would be with characters who either don't neatly fit into a give "team" or with characters who are the only representative of their franchise.

Yeah, there should probably be a miscellaneous thing there instead of team conker etc.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Section exclusive to third parties would be nice.

 

[Serilei]

The stage select thing is an interesting idea. The only problem would be with characters who either don't neatly fit into a give "team" or with characters who are the only representative of their franchise.

I thought about making an "Other" team but wasnt sure, I was trying to balance out the look of teams, but this idea is 11 months old, I definitely need to revise it seriously.

 

[jigglover]

I'm not any good with a jpg file or anything like that! Oh, and welcome to smash world forums!

 

[Serilei]

I'm not any good with a jpg file or anything like that! Oh, and welcome to Smash World Forums!

All Good, thanks No problem. I am about to revise the character list though, so any ideas you have let me know.

 

[jigglover]

Well, the above trainers, for one. I'd add Zoroark, Lucario and Mewtwo as their own characters in the pokemon franchise's one. Also, add Alice to team balloon fight. Add some of the better known boxers from punch out!! to team punch out such as king hippo too. Put shadow mario under bowser junior and give mario cosmic clone. Make the polar bear playable in the IC series. I also noticed that there weren't many in the kirby series when I went on smash wikia so I would put in in no particular order: Dark matter, Prince fluff, bandana dee, knuckle joe, waddle doo and gooey. Also put King boo and paper mario into the mario series and give bowser junior every single koopaling. Give Bowser his retro colours. Give DK Retro DK and cranky kong, and diddy every kong from 64 like lanky, dixie and tiny. Put K Rool in with all of his attires such as scientist and Pirate. I'd also reduce the amount of sonic characters since there was loads, but still include them where possible like putting silver under sonic etc. Change team Ike to team Fire emblem, since that is the series, and add in all of the main lords to date. I will add in more ideas in the future, but right now I'll give you time to do the above. It's not at all bad right now, but this is so brilliant we need to make advantage of it.

 

[Pichu4SSB4]

Banjo & Kazooie and Conker are very unlikely, sadly.

But i'm loving the team organization idea, as well as the ALT movesets menu. I really hope that concept is being considered by Sakurai.

I love the in-game pictures as well, very well done.

Edit: Instead of "Team Ness" you should rename it to "Team Mother", or for western players "Team Earthbound". If Metroid gets another rep it should probably be named "Team Metroid" as well.

 

[Serilei]

Well, the above trainers, for one. I'd add Zoroark, Lucario and Mewtwo as their own characters in the pokemon franchise's one. Also, add Alice to team balloon fight. Add some of the better known boxers from punch out!! to team punch out such as king hippo too. Put shadow mario under bowser junior and give mario cosmic clone. Make the polar bear playable in the IC series. I also noticed that there weren't many in the kirby series when I went on smash wikia so I would put in in no particular order: Dark matter, Prince fluff, bandana dee, knuckle joe, waddle doo and gooey. Also put King boo and paper mario into the mario series and give bowser junior every single koopaling. Give Bowser his retro colours. Give DK Retro DK and cranky kong, and diddy every kong from 64 like lanky, dixie and tiny. Put K Rool in with all of his attires such as scientist and Pirate. I'd also reduce the amount of sonic characters since there was loads, but still include them where possible like putting silver under sonic etc. Change team Ike to team Fire emblem, since that is the series, and add in all of the main lords to date. I will add in more ideas in the future, but right now I'll give you time to do the above. It's not at all bad right now, but this is so brilliant we need to make advantage of it.

Taking notes.

Also Jigg, let me link you to this, and leave a note. When I made that page on Smash wikia I didnt include everything because I left an external link to the Smash photobucket, but I will directly link you to the folder, i literally have over 100+ playable characters for smash, just they dont seem to be present to some because of how I linked it, so take a look and tell me what you think.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l525/Smash_World/Smash Levels/battle1.jpg

I am still re writing the characters on a notepad

 

[Serilei]

Banjo & Kazooie and Conker are very unlikely, sadly.

But i'm loving the team organization idea, as well as the ALT movesets menu. I really hope that concept is being considered by Sakurai.

I love the in-game pictures as well, very well done.

Edit: Instead of "Team Ness" you should rename it to "Team Mother", or for western players "Team Earthbound". If Metroid gets another rep it should probably be named "Team Metroid" as well.

Pichu I am about to redo the whole front page, but in the mean time check out the smash bros photobucket I have, and take a look :D

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l525/Smash_World/Smash Levels/battle1.jpg

I will note what you have said :D I appreciate it.

 

[jigglover]

Taking notes.

Also Jigg, let me link you to this, and leave a note. When I made that page on Smash wikia I didnt include everything because I left an external link to the Smash photobucket, but I will directly link you to the folder, i literally have over 100+ playable characters for smash, just they dont seem to be present to some because of how I linked it, so take a look and tell me what you think.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l525/Smash_World/Smash Levels/battle1.jpg

I am still re writing the characters on a notepad

That's not a folder, it's the battle picture in the OP, but for the record I think it looks good. Diddy hitching a ride on donkey! :D I also wish the graphics are that good on SSB4, possibly better, but those graphics are truly incredibly on that pic.

 

[Serilei]

That's not a folder, it's the battle picture in the OP, but for the record I think it looks good. Diddy hitching a ride on donkey! :D I also wish the graphics are that good on SSB4, possibly better, but those graphics are truly incredibly on that pic.

Oh, i am very sorry, I am in such a rush to get this put up here and talk about it, but here I uploaded it to my Deviantart.

Has a bunch of characters, and currently uploading some unused characters, and working on others

http://rosegardeninhell.deviantart.com/gallery/33034399

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I remember seeing this somewhere a while back. Interesting idea, unique concept, and very clean pictures. However, that roster is....I'm not even sure what to say. No Ridley, no Takamaru, no Saki/Isaac/Shulk, way too many 3rd party characters, and way too many Sonic characters. It's even debateable if we will get Sonic back. Additionally, I'm not a huge fan of rosters that include a large amount sub-characters within a character. For example, 5 Pokemon trainers just to include 15 different Pokemon or Bowser/Bowser Jr, Pit/Palutena, Pikachu/Pichu, Snake/Raiden tag team character. While I'm not saying yours is like that but I see a lot of unlikely and unpopular characters such as Pauline, Wart,Randi, Deathborn, Midna, Poo, etc.

I suggest making a similar roster screen that uses popular and likely newcomers and personal bias. I'd love to see a version of your roster. I do like the idea and it would give the character select screen a more compact look.

Oh and I suggest changing it from Team Ike to Team Fire Emblem or Team Ness to Team Mother.

 

[Serilei]

I remember seeing this somewhere a while back. Interesting idea, unique concept, and very clean pictures. However, that roster is....I'm not even sure what to say. No Ridley, no Takamaru, no Saki/Isaac/Shulk, way too many 3rd party characters, and way too many Sonic characters. It's even debateable if we will get Sonic back. Additionally, I'm not a huge fan of rosters that include a large amount sub-characters within a character. For example, 5 Pokemon trainers just to include 15 different Pokemon or Bowser/Bowser Jr, Pit/Palutena, Pikachu/Pichu, Snake/Raiden tag team character. While I'm not saying yours is like that but I see a lot of unlikely and unpopular characters such as Pauline, Wart,Randi, Deathborn, Midna, Poo, etc.

I suggest making a similar roster screen that uses popular and likely newcomers and personal bias. I'd love to see a version of your roster. I do like the idea and it would give the character select screen a more compact look.

I appreciate the feedback, and yes I know I am missing alot. As i posted before I made this 11 months ago, and blobbed it all over Sakurais Twitter lol and then after a while i just dropped it, but I am reworking it now.


also the reason for some of these unlikely characters like poo, is because at the time I couldnt see anyone else fitting into the roster, but once I figured out he could transform into someone, that took the place and idea of ditto from pokemon, so it was like killing 2 birds with one stone, and allowed for a better pokemon to come in

the only reason I included alot of those characters is I looked at it from a company perspective, these guys are geniuses and have talent and have done this forever, and I know their ideas can far surpass mine. My idea for posting them is because I know they can make these characters work because of their well put together team and professionals that work there, so they could think of things with these characters that I never could.

So basically I kind of threw them out there in hopes they would be made into something great :D playing Russian roulette here lol

And yes you are right, too many 3rd party characters, but when i was doing this, I rushed it waaay too fast, specially in 2 weeks.

So now I am reworking.

Also if you want to see the 5000pixel images go here :D

http://rosegardeninhell.deviantart.com/gallery/33034399


Sorry I keep editing lol

The reason for subcharacters too, I was looking at it like alternative characters like Zero Suit samus and Sheik, I was in the mindset of diversity in each game, so that is where alot of them came from, and also having subcharacters didnt cloud up the regular character chart and make it look really bad.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I originally only skimmed over your post (sorry) and didn't notice the stuff about the Alt. modes. EX-Modes(as I call them) are something I think Smash could benefit from, since it could be an interesting way to "solve" SSBs' percieved clone problem. Characters who are currently, or were at some point, clones could get less clone-y movesets, but keep the old ones for people who were fans of the way they played as clones. I think how you envisioned these alt. modes being selected is pretty neat; I had always imagined the EX-modes being selected by holding down a button or something. Maybe something similar could be done for alternate costumes.

 

[Serilei]

I originally only skimmed over your post (sorry) and didn't notice the stuff about the Alt. modes. EX-Modes(as I call them) are something I think Smash could benefit from, since it could be an interesting way to "solve" SSBs' percieved clone problem. Characters who are currently, or were at some point, clones could get less clone-y movesets, but keep the old ones for people who were fans of the way they played as clones. I think how you envisioned these alt. modes being selected is pretty neat; I had always imagined the EX-modes being selected by holding down a button or something. Maybe something similar could be done for alternate costumes.

No problem, it is all good, and yes I would also like this cloning stuff to go away, really takes away from the game play and shows laziness.

I am definitely trying to add more diversity, but as posted above I may have added too many 3rd party characters, so I need to revision it a bit.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

No problem, it is all good, and yes I would also like this cloning stuff to go away, really takes away from the game play and shows laziness.

I am definitely trying to add more diversity, but as posted above I may have added too many 3rd party characters, so I need to revision it a bit.

I think you misunderstood, I don't have a problem with clones. Most of the current "clones" in Smash actually play quite differently from the characters they "copy." Plus, there really aren't that many clones: there's Luigi(who barely qualifies at this point), Falco, Ganondorf, Toon Link, and maybe Lucas. That's a total of only about 5 out of a roster of almost 40. And, unlike some other fighting games, they're all clones of different people.

 

[Serilei]

I think you misunderstood, I don't have a problem with clones. Most of the current "clones" in Smash actually play quite differently from the characters they "copy." Plus, there really aren't that many clones: there's Luigi(who barely qualifies at this point), Falco, Ganondorf, Toon Link, and maybe Lucas. That's a total of only about 5 out of a roster of almost 40. And, unlike some other fighting games, they're all clones of different people.

Ahh very sorry, I understand it now. I would like them to refine their moves though, like mentioned earlier.

Also I just redid the front page if you will go look :D

 

[SmasherMaster]

I think you misunderstood, I don't have a problem with clones. Most of the current "clones" in Smash actually play quite differently from the characters they "copy." Plus, there really aren't that many clones: there's Luigi(who barely qualifies at this point), Falco, Ganondorf, Toon Link, and maybe Lucas. That's a total of only about 5 out of a roster of almost 40. And, unlike some other fighting games, they're all clones of different people.

You forgot Wolf.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

You forgot Wolf.

Hardly. He only "shares" 3 of his specials with Fox, and those all function wildly different from how Fox's work. I also don't think Wolf shares a single normal move with Fox or Falco.

 

[SmashShadow]

I love that DK stage. Also add Shadow to team sonic.

 

[Serilei]

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I redid the front page, so take a look, it is more refined and better detailed.

Also I am still redoing the character list, and I took alot of them out, and sacrificed some I didnt want to, but it is still a work in progress. Take a look.

also I actually went to the Power suits for mario page and tried to pick something, my other option was the Bee Suit from Galaxy!
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Power-Ups

Also check which names are grey and click for images. (Got to get sushi I will fix the rest later)

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Mario
> > Tanooki Mario
Luigi
> > Vacuum Luigi
Peach
> > Daisy
Rosalina
Bowser
Bowser Jr
> > Shadow Mario
Wario
Mona
Waluigi
Yoshi
Baby Mario Brothers


Donkey Kong
> > DK and Diddy
Diddy Kong
> > Diddy and Dixie
Dixie Kong
> > Dixie and Kiddie
King K. Rool
> > Kaptain K. Rool
Pauline

Link
> > Wolf Link
Majora Link
Zelda
> > Sheik
Tetra
> > Toon Zelda
Skull Kid
Ganondorf
> > Windwaker Ganondorf
Midna
> > Princess Midna
Vaati
Ghirahim
Demise

Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Silver
Amy
Dr. Eggman

Samus
> > Zero Suit Samus
Ridley (resized)
Dark Samus
Ghor
Gandrayda I think her transformation abilities are good too

Solid Snake
Gray Fox

Kirby
> > Yarn Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Dark matter
Prince Fluff

Balloon Fighter
Alice

Banjo Tooie
Conker
Amaterasu
Little Mac
King Hippo
Earthworm jim
Klonoa
veiwtiful Joe
Pacman

Ice Climbers

Mr. Game And Watch

Captain Olimar

ROB

Ness
Lucas
Poo

MegaMan
Zero

Captain Falcon
The Skull
Samurai Goroh
Deathborn

Fox
Falco
Wolf
Krystal

Pit
Palutena
Fighter
Medusa

Bomberman
Dr Mecha
Max

Ike
Marth
Idoun
Alondite


Pikachu
JigglyPuff
Zoroark
Deoxys
Ditto
Pkmn Trainer
> > Ivysaur, Squirtle, Charizard
> > Lucario, Scizor, Primeape
> > Nidoking, Mawile, Weavile
> > Infernape, Plusl + Minun, Mr. Mime



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Notes About Pokemon:

Deoxys: Press a combination of buttons to transform between "Normal" "Speed" "Attack" and "Defense".. For every form Deoxys takes, the stats change; For example Defense, well, has higher defense, but attacks are slower. Speed, Deoxys moves faster, but attacks are weaker. Attack, Deoxys attacks are stronger, but he takes alot more damage. Normal, well, he is normal

Ditto: Press a combination of buttons that allow Ditto transform into any character on stage, with the characters move set. As for battling a boss or something else, before you start the match Ditto will be set with 3 random characters to transform into, you will have to change to find out what characters you get.

Plusl and Minun: Team character, example like Ice Climbers.

Mr. Mime: I know this one sounds weird, but he has those psychic abilities and also the light screen abilities (You know.. it kind of looks like glass windows and blocks movement and stuff) If the move set is done right Mr. Mime can be an excellent character.






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Characters or ideas removed
FLUDD Mario
Mr. L
King wart
Midbus
Crystal King
Mario and Yoshi
Super Dragon Yoshi
Kamek
Dry Bowser
Dry Bones
Birdo
Tingle
Beast Ganondorf
Ocarina of Time Ganon
Phantom Ganon (Windwaker)
Zant
Nabooru
Iron Knuckle
Metal Sonic
Mecha Knuckles
Rouge
Dr. Whisker
Jet The hawk
Blaze the Cat
shadow The Hedgehog
Knuckle Joe
glover
Randi
chrono
Black Shadow
Lightning Bomber
Mewtwo
Darkrai
Meowth

 

[jigglover]

I just noticed your removal bit of the above post. Why are you cutting characters like Baby Mario Brothers!? Look, put:
Baby Mario Brothers, Kamek, Dry bowser (above all, I thought of a dry bowser alt costume for bowser one day and I really want it now) Toon Zelda with a Tetra transformation this time and Knuckle Joe.
Sorry if that sounded a bit hostile, but there was finally a roster with baby bros and dry bowser in it, I don't want to let them go!
I also had a flick through your documents.
I think, as previously mentioned, you should add well known opponents from punch out like king hippo to the punch out series.
Add more Pokemon, I know that you have lots of pokemon trainers, but I think Mewtwo, Lucario and Zoroark merit singular inclusion, and I'd take Deoxys out if I were you, he's just a brawl character that didn't get in...
More fire emblem characters, recent polls show that FE (team Ike) is the tenth most popular nintendo franchise among men, yet this roster is missing the likes of micaiha, Lyndis, Hector, Eliwell and others.
As mentioned before, I think you should add Alice (and maybe Tingle) to the balloon fighter series and give it it's own spot on the character screen (the first one).
More star fox, don' just add Krystal! What about Leon, Slippy, Panther, Katt!?
Add all four of the new Pikmin captains and Louie.
Other than that, they're all good, in the above post you took some of my previous requests and are adding more Kirby characters, and I know these rosters are over a year old. I'm really looking forward to the final outcome of this and hope like hell it's in the next game.

 

[Serilei]

Also here is an idea, I put together in like 5 minutes, and yes I know it says Brawl up top, but that is ok.

The idea is that the spinning ball is a smash ball, and what happens is you drag this ball in circles to find your team with the Wii mote or whatever.

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Trying to find a result in easy character choice. What happens is, no matter where the smash ball character selection goes, all P1 or P2 or P3 or P4 has to do is click the team, and in the players corner the team will show up, and you can choose your character, and if you dont want the team just press B to back out and click another team.

 

[Serilei]

I just noticed your removal bit of the above post. Why are you cutting characters like Baby Mario Brothers!? Look, put:
Baby Mario Brothers, Kamek, Dry bowser (above all, I thought of a dry bowser alt costume for bowser one day and I really want it now) Toon Zelda with a Tetra transformation this time and Knuckle Joe.
Sorry if that sounded a bit hostile, but there was finally a roster with baby bros and dry bowser in it, I don't want to let them go!
I also had a flick through your documents.
I think, as previously mentioned, you should add well known opponents from punch out like king hippo to the punch out series.
Add more Pokemon, I know that you have lots of pokemon trainers, but I think Mewtwo, Lucario and Zoroark merit singular inclusion, and I'd take Deoxys out if I were you, he's just a brawl character that didn't get in...
More fire emblem characters, recent polls show that FE (team Ike) is the tenth most popular nintendo franchise among men, yet this roster is missing the likes of micaiha, Lyndis, Hector, Eliwell and others.
As mentioned before, I think you should add Alice (and maybe Tingle) to the balloon fighter series and give it it's own spot on the character screen (the first one).
More star fox, don' just add Krystal! What about Leon, Slippy, Panther, Katt!?
Add all four of the new Pikmin captains and Louie.
Other than that, they're all good, in the above post you took some of my previous requests and are adding more Kirby characters, and I know these rosters are over a year old. I'm really looking forward to the final outcome of this and hope like hell it's in the next game.

Looking into it. The reason things are going in and out is because I dont want to make one game genre too crowded with too many characters, because then it begins to take away from other characters and teams, for example I dont want to have 20 mario characters and nothing else to match, because then it would feel like "Super Mario Brawl and friends" lol so I am trying to even it out. I think I may remove Tingle though, my idea behind him was to be sort of a half ground half areal character, being able to drop like bombs and stuff, but I just may remove him.

Ive kind of skipped out on Pikmin 2 and 3, I had no idea we had other captains I will look into that.

Still working on the list though.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

One problem I though of, more for the sphere idea: What happens when you have multiple spinning around the globe? It could get really chaotic and confusing really fast.

 

[jigglover]

Well Mario should have the most characters since he is the icon of the series. I don't think he needs someone like Midbus in there though.
@ShinPichu, make it so that player 1 picks, then player 2 only the player that is picking being able to spin the ball.

 

[Serilei]

Well Mario should have the most characters since he is the icon of the series. I don't think he needs someone like Midbus in there though.
@ShinPichu, make it so that player 1 picks, then player 2 only the player that is picking being able to spin the ball.

Or for those that have a Wii u controller pad can select the character there :D

 

[Robert of Normandy]

@ShinPichu, make it so that player 1 picks, then player 2 only the player that is picking being able to spin the ball.

That would get annoying quickly. Also, what if, say, player 1 decides to quit qhile player 2/3/4 is picking? do they have to start over?

One idea that could work is if there were individual spheres/grids for eachplayer to pick from on their own.

 

[jigglover]

That's good. Also, they could have the globe on the wii pad so you could just pass it round the sofa, line of gaming chairs etc. to pick quicker. If player 1 quit then his icon would be turned into a computer player until another human takes over for him.

 

[8-peacock-8]

This looks really awesome.

 

[Serilei]

That would get annoying quickly. Also, what if, say, player 1 decides to quit qhile player 2/3/4 is picking? do they have to start over?

One idea that could work is if there were individual spheres/grids for eachplayer to pick from on their own.

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I went to sleep and woke up and had an idea to fix this, I will post the picture soon. Sounds pretty good to me.

Edit: Ok back a few hours later, scroll up and check the idea for the character selection I made. The first idea I have had so far.

All players just have to click a team and have it show up in their corner of the screen. This not only saves time, but everyone can access their team more easily and in a quicker fashion.