My friend wants to commit suicide

[Ensee]

And is actually excited about it. He says he will do it on Monday. What should I do to stop him? I really don't want him to do this but I don't know what to say to make him change his mind. He wants to find out if there is an afterlife or a God or something. Help?

EDIT: No this isn't a joke, by the way.

I don't know what good this will do, but this is sort of how he thinks. Heres a blog he posted on Myspace:

As I understand....
Category: Religion and Philosophy

As I sit here tonight, I realize I am not alive. We're already dead. Life is now lifeless, for that when I die my soul will mean nothing. I feel great in a depressing/hopeless way...knowing that nothing/no one should EVER humiliate, embarrass, or bring me down in anyway possible. Simply knowing that as reality and life may seem to all such as education, their false bull**** relationships, dreams, hope and faith is really nothing. It means nothing, maybe to them for a remaining 30 or 50 years but when life takes it's place they will fall and die just as I. No matter what anyone does, says, accomplishes over the years it will never mean anything due to no afterlife. So for this knowledge I will never ever look at social life the same. If you do not understand what I said, ignorance overcomes you.

 

[commonyoshi]

I dont believe this. If this happens to be a practical joke...

Anyways, it doesn't sound in your post like he's suffering from any depression or anything. He just wants to see what's out there after life is over? That's something I've never heard of before. First thing, tell his parents. It doesn't matter if he hates you for doing so. You must tell his parents what is going on even if it feels weird. If they dont believe you then forget it, but you should find some way to physically stop him before you can change his mind about it.

I dont know him so it's kind of hard for me to give you any real, significant advice except that. It's not like I can talk to him in person. I'll definitely pray for the guy.

 

[Dibs]

Convert him to scientology.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Slap the piss out of him.

I'm not joking.

 

[cF=)]

Inform his/her parents, police, or anybody whom could change your friend's mind. I'm skeptical whether this topic is a joke or not but, just in case, I'm giving you this advice: act quickly, mostly if he wants to act tommorow.

If your friend lives an happy life, he won't commit suicide. It's harder than it seems if you're psychologically sane.

 

[Ensee]

I dont believe this. If this happens to be a practical joke...

Anyways, it doesn't sound in your post like he's suffering from any depression or anything. He just wants to see what's out there after life is over? That's something I've never heard of before. First thing, tell his parents. It doesn't matter if he hates you for doing so. You must tell his parents what is going on even if it feels weird. If they dont believe you then forget it, but you should find some way to physically stop him before you can change his mind about it.

I dont know him so it's kind of hard for me to give you any real, significant advice except that. It's not like I can talk to him in person. I'll definitely pray for the guy.

True, no this isn't a joke at all, I just didn't know who to ask about this so I thought I would post it here and try to get some advice. Thing is hes only 16, doesn't really believe in a religion and has been acting weird lately. Listening to different music, talking differently about things. He told me and one other person what his plans were. He's writing some sort of book about all of his thoughts, and thinks that the only way for it to get recognized and people actually pay attention to him is if he does this. I've already told him not to do it but he just said, "This is what's best." But yeah I'll try and come in contact with his parents about it.

 

[Mechareaper]

It sounds like he might be entering a depression. It kind of runs in my family so I know a bit about it (my uncle was diagnosed with it and my brother probably has bi-poler disorder). Inform someone, anyone, preferably his parents, watch him closely. Also, inform his parents that he's been acting differently. DO NOT WAIT, you don't want to take any chances. I don't know how successful it would be to try and talk him out of it although you might try but even if you do still tell his parents, as soon as possible.

From his myspace it sounds like its definitely depression.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

If he refuses to listen to what you or his parents say, restrain him or knock him out and then call the police or an ambulance so you can get him phycological help. Better for him to be knocked out than dead. And don't take the situation lightly, don't wait, and if he's about to commit suicide, don't hesitate.

If he hates you for it, then he's going to have to deal with it. If you don't want him to hate you, deal with it. I would rather have my friend hate me than be dead. Don't listen to his logic behind killing himself either. Suicide is NEVER the right course of action no matter what the situation. It is in NO way reasonable. It's just an escape when you can't deal with your problems and it's just a way to chicken out.

Maybe my suggestion sounds harsh but there is no time to be kind. Still, talk to him about it before you turn to restraining him. But if you must restrain or knock him out, then do it without hesitation.

I hope everything goes well for you and your friend decides against commiting suicide. Best of luck.

 

[Volrec]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=suicide

 

[Ensee]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=suicide

I really don't think this is very funny.

 

[F8AL]

No offense, but of all the websites on the Internet, you decide to post it on a Smash Bros forum? Great idea! Why not post it on a Halo 2 forum as well?

 

[Wuss]

if he's writing a book, and what you said is true about it, then it sounds like he's attention seeking. Obviously, he'll be dead when he has this attention but still. Is your friend at all Existentialist? Cause if he is, then I know a bit about why he wants to commit suicide. I suggest showing him all of the things he likes in the world. I know I think a lot about why I am here. And I just think about what I love, even if it's silly things like smash, gfx, rock climbing, hangin with my friends, and whatever. Try to get him to realize that there is something worth staying here for. Like Lloyd said in "Tales of Symphonia", "There is no meaning in dieing". I know it's from a video game, but it is quite true...

 

[cF=)]

"There is no meaning in dieing"

That's absolutely false:

1. People who fought during the WWs had a goal, and their death symbolized what human beings sometime fight for: Freedom & Equality
2. Have you ever seen the cover of RATM's first album cover ? It displays a man (monk) on fire who protested against buddhism oppression. I guess it has a meaning.
3. A fireman who dies while saving the life of other people ? Commitment to his job, courage, etc. You can make a list of things which his death displays.

I'm sure you can see death can have a meaning, so your quote is misplaced.

 

[Ensee]

No offense, but of all the websites on the Internet, you decide to post it on a Smash Bros forum? Great idea! Why not post it on a Halo 2 forum as well?

This is the only forum I go to, and the only place I knew where to get advice from some smart people who might actually know what they're talking about.

 

[pikachun00b7]

Call the police if he is serious.

No offense, but of all the websites on the Internet, you decide to post it on a Smash Bros forum? Great idea! Why not post it on a Halo 2 forum as well?

Because Halo gamers are evil creatures who wants everyone else dead. So they can eat our souls.

 

[Pit 42]

I wanted to say something funny like Dibs but if you're absolutely serious, contact someone who can get him help. I know it's not easy, but it's the best thing you can do for him right now. And don't wait, either. If he's doing it Monday (tomorrow?) contact someone as soon as possible.

 

[Dodongo]

You know if you think this is serious and you don't do much to help him you're not a good friend.

 

[Ensee]

I'm trying to help him as much as I can, I told his brother about what he was planning to do so his brother can probably convince him out of it more than I can. He said he would talk to him about it, I got in touch with my friend and tried to tell him not to do all this but he wouldn't listen to me. Hopefully his brother can change his mind.

BTW: If I told his mom she wouldn't know what to do, she would probably just panic and not be able to do anything. Same probably with his dad.

 

[Sodapop]

Tell his parents NO MATTER WHAT!!! Death isnt something you just 'do' to see if theres an afterlife. We all have our time to die after we've lived our lives. Stopping that cycle in nature is bad. VERY bad. Tell the police, get him a counselor, search his house to see if theres any sleeping pills. Any sharp objects or guns. Go do it NOW.

 

[Mediocre]

Just for anybody who's wondering, I don't think this is a fake. The myspace profile is real, with comments , and I doubt anybody would put that much effort into a prank.

Here's what you do:

1. Call the parents right now.
2. Call the cops right now.

Don't bother trying to talk to him. Let his parents do that.

I'm normally all for a person's right to commit suicide, but it sounds like he's depressed more than anything else.

I'd also say that he's probably just looking for attention, because otherwise he wouldn't post about it on his myspace profile. He wouldn't have told you about it. He's looking for attention and sympathy, but don't let that stop you from calling his parents and the cops, because he could get worse.

Get him treatment. Depression is a condition that's treatable. If you do that, he'll probably live, and if he gets treated he'll probably be a much happier person.

I'm trying to help him as much as I can, I told his brother about what he was planning to do so his brother can probably convince him out of it more than I can. He said he would talk to him about it, I got in touch with my friend and tried to tell him not to do all this but he wouldn't listen to me. Hopefully his brother can change his mind.

BTW: If I told his mom she wouldn't know what to do, she would probably just panic and not be able to do anything. Same probably with his dad.

Then call the cops. He won't go to jail, but they will treat him. He should be treated anyway, because otherwise he's likely to try it again.

 

[GoldShadow]

I'm not quite sure what I can really add, so I'll just echo what everyone else has said: tell his parents, police, counselors, etc. Talk to him or something, you are after all his friend. Be open and up front about it, don't try to use euphemisms or anything if you do talk to him. Intervention is key.

cF=) has some points that make sense, but unfortunately, it can be hard to appeal to a suicidal patient's logical side. Use physical means to stop him if necessary. Hopefully, someone else can take care of that if the need arises.

 

[Wuss]

That's absolutely false:

1. People who fought during the WWs had a goal, and their death symbolized what human beings sometime fight for: Freedom & Equality
2. Have you ever seen the cover of RATM's first album cover ? It displays a man (monk) on fire who protested against buddhism oppression. I guess it has a meaning.
3. A fireman who dies while saving the life of other people ? Commitment to his job, courage, etc. You can make a list of things which his death displays.

I'm sure you can see death can have a meaning, so your quote is misplaced.

1. your absolutely right.
2. I think I misquoted anyways. The point in that whole sequence in the game is that his death because he lost this "contest" is meaningless. I suppose death can have meaning, although I wouldn't say that soldiers who die in wars, fighting for something they believe in, always have meaning in their deaths.

anyways, the point here is that you need to help this guy...

 

[KevinM]

Ok honestly i've had experience in both realms of this matter..

I had a friend who was going too, but her best friend called the cops and they escorted her to the hospital where she spent days in the psyche ward but has come out relatively healthy.

And i myself attempted suicide about a year ago, just cause i was sick of dealing with manic depression and a lot of other bull**** in my life. (If i catch any sympathy, or **** from that post I'mma be pretty angry cause thats personal crap)

In essence, if you haven't called the cops by now DO IT

 

[cF=)]

"Call the cops" has almost been in everybody's post since the beggining of this thread so far. If you do so, just try to inform his parents first so they understand why cops would present themselves at their doorstep.

You better act fast... not much time left before midnight...

 

[F8AL]

This is the only forum I go to, and the only place I knew where to get advice from some smart people who might actually know what they're talking about.

Call the police if he is serious.

Because Halo gamers are evil creatures who wants everyone else dead. So they can eat our souls.

Well if you wanted to get professional suicide help, I'd suggest checking out a suicide forum or myspace or something. Smashboards isn't really the best place to get suicide help on.

LOL, pikachun00b7, you always make me laugh with your hilarious comments. XD

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Ok honestly i've had experience in both realms of this matter..

I had a friend who was going too, but her best friend called the cops and they escorted her to the hospital where she spent days in the psyche ward but has come out relatively healthy.

And i myself attempted suicide about a year ago, just cause i was sick of dealing with manic depression and a lot of other bull**** in my life. (If i catch any sympathy, or **** from that post I'mma be pretty angry cause thats personal crap)

In essence, if you haven't called the cops by now DO IT

I'm not trying to bother you or anything but that is the third post I've seen from you where you mentioned your manic depression and each post is fairly recent. If you're NOT looking for sympathy then why bring it up so many times?

Maybe it's just coincidence. And this post was NOT meant to offend you.

 

[Xsyven]

Give me his home phone number, and I'll call his parents if you don't.

 

[KevinM]

I'm with Xsyven, and i would do it 100 percent

 

[Gamer4Fire]

Well it seems that he wants to know the meaning of life. This is a very noble goal but your friend seems to be taking a very direct method of finding out. Although I have nothing against suicide personally, I think your friend might be able to accomplish his goal with a better method. Perhaps encouraging him to take a more discriminating route would work?

Give him another option that isn't as permanent.

 

[Bailey]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=suicide

Wow that was worse then EEvisu's comment awhile back.

 

[TakDragon7]

Commiting suicide is jsut a wrong thing...they think that no one really loves or cares about them but there are ppl like their parnets or friends that DO care about them. I had the same problem before and it just...hurt your friends or your family on the inside.

 

[Xsyven]

Plus, it's believed in a lot of religions that if you commit suicide, you go to hell.

Sorry to put it blunt, but hey. It's true.

 

[commonyoshi]

Yeah, and it's weird because Ensee's friend said his main purpose in killing himself was seeing if there was a God. I sure wouldn't want to go looking for a God with that kind of sin on my soldiers.

Ensee, this isn't the time to chicken out. I honestly hope you've contacted his parents/authorities by now. Let's just hope it isn't too late.

 

[Dibs]

His friend would still see an afterlife, just one without a god. But hey, the better parties and liquor lies in hell anyways.

 

[Tron V2.0]

EDIT: It's monday. Did you calm him down or is he dead?

 

[Mediocre]

You know, no matter how trendy it is to make jokes at the expense of someone who's about to commit suicide, I personally fail to see the appeal.

If you want to be edgy, do it somewhere else, please. It's not impressing anyone here, especially when you're the tenth person to do it in this topic.

 

[Ensee]

His brother stopped him I believe, I told his brother to tell his parents what he was going to do and I think he did. Hopefully that means problem solved. I'll post more later.

 

[NG7]

That's absolutely false:

1. People who fought during the WWs had a goal, and their death symbolized what human beings sometime fight for: Freedom & Equality
2. Have you ever seen the cover of RATM's first album cover ? It displays a man (monk) on fire who protested against buddhism oppression. I guess it has a meaning.
3. A fireman who dies while saving the life of other people ? Commitment to his job, courage, etc. You can make a list of things which his death displays.

I'm sure you can see death can have a meaning, so your quote is misplaced.

This isn't a debate cF. The thread starter says his friend is seriously considering suicide and asks for help to stop him. Then you come along and argue that death is justifiable? That's not very helpful.

Ensee, I know you said it's been solved, but I was reading this a few weeks back and I think it would really help your friend if he ever gets like that again.

It's called Logotherapy. The links below are just a few of the resources I've found on it through Google.

http://www.jca.apc.org/~iyuzo/Logotherapy1.htm

There are 7 parts to it. To access the other lectures, edit the number in the URL.

 

[Chill]

His brother stopped him I believe, I told his brother to tell his parents what he was going to do and I think he did. Hopefully that means problem solved. I'll post more later.

You really should have and still should tell his parent's yourself. You didn't want to tell them because you thought they might worry (and they should) how do you his brother doesn't feel the same way? It's not a good idea to assume that someone else is doing something, this is your friends life you're talking about. If he's going to get any help that's something family and friends should be involved with anyway.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

@Ensee: Sorry, but that's not good enough. Don't assume things are going to happen MAKE things happen. Tell his parents, call the cops, go over there and see what's up. His brother might talk him out of it TODAY but who's to say he won't do it TOMMORROW? He needs phycological help NOW.