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My First Competitive Team (OU)

Majority

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After a while of fixing up my team, it's pretty much finalized. I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm sure it could be better.



Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed/Torrent
252HP/252Def/4Atk

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Waterfall
Ice Beam

My favorite lead, better than all the others I've tried.

Scizor@Choice Band
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/244HP/12Spe

U-Turn
Bullet Punch
SuperPower
Pursuit

Just a great OU Pokemon. Nothing needs to be said.

Machamp@Leftovers
Adamant/No Guard
252Atk/252HP/4Spe

Dynamic Punch
Stone Edge
Pay Back
Substitute

Stone Edge and Substitute are infinitely better than my old moves (Rest + Sleep Talk). I have Gates to thank for that.

Heatran@Choice Scarf
Naive/Flash Fire
252SpA/252Spe/4HP

Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
Explosion

Same with Scizor.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Adamant/Poison Heal
252Atk/208Spe/48HP

Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb

My favorite Pokemon. Spore to Substitute to Focus Punch is really awesome.

Salamence@Life Orb
Naive/Intimidate
252Spe/232Atk/24SpA

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Blast
Roost

Salamence can really help this team. Takes care of a lot of problems.
 

Gates

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Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed/Torrent
252HP/252Def/4Atk

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Surf
Protect

Why Protect? If it's to block Sleep leads like Roserade and Smeargle they can just sleep you the next turn since protect will probably fail. And anyway you don't need something to get sleep off of Swampert since you have Machamp to absorb sleep talk. Roar seems a lot better overall.

Scizor@Choice Band
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/244HP/12Spe

U-Turn
Bullet Punch
SuperPower
Pursuit

Standard.

Machamp@Leftovers
Adamant/No Guard
252Atk/252HP/4Spe

Dynamic Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk
Pay Back

Do you need a sleep absorber badly enough that you'd choose this over SubChamp? Or do you need a tank? If so, a lot of things can do this better than Machamp.

Heatran@Choice Scarf
Naive/Flash Fire
252SpA/252Spe/4HP

Fire Blast
Earth Power
HP Grass
Explosion

Dragon Pulse is generally better than HP Grass right now since there are more dragons than Swamperts.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Adamant/Poison Heal
252Atk/208Spe/48HP

Spore
Substitute
Focus Blast
Seed Bomb

I assume Focus Blast is a typo and you meant Focus Punch. If not then wtf is wrong with you.

Salamence@Life Orb
Naive/Intimidate
252Spe/232Atk/24SpA

Roost
Outrage
Fire Blast
Earthquake

This looks ok but what exactly do you gain by having a straight-up attacking MixMence as opposed to a DDMence?
Scizor and Breloom are both weak to Fire and Breloom and Machamp are both weak to flying, so any team with Heatran and Togekiss can give you a lot of trouble. CroCune is a better resttalker than Machamp but if you switched him in then it would probably be a good idea to change your lead as well to something like Azelf. You could also do Resttalk Gyarados but that's generally better suited to stall teams.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed/Torrent
252HP/252Def/4Atk

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Surf
Protect
Wait. Your Swampert has Surf. Hm...

Scizor@Choice Band
Adamant/Technician
252Atk/244HP/12Spe

U-Turn
Bullet Punch
SuperPower
Pursuit

Just a great OU Pokemon.
I suppose, I mean it's part Gay-type after all.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Adamant/Poison Heal
252Atk/208Spe/48HP

Spore
Substitute
Focus Blast
Seed Bomb
Focus Blast with Adamant and 252 Atk EV's. I am hoping you meant Focus Punch?

Criticize me, capt'n!

-Terywj
 

mood4food77

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his fire weakness is okay, he's got 2 pokes that are weak and 2 pokes that resist with 1 being immune, it's not too bad

flying moves aren't that worrisome as it's pretty much togekiss who uses it, i think he's okay here

i do suggest using CroCune over machamp, your team is very physically based, meaning a good physical wall will stop most of your team, it'll give you a special tank and a special attacker, both of which your team is lacking and it's synergy will be more beneficial to your team than what machamp is offering (adding another grass weakness is fine when you have 3 pokes that double resist grass), also adding another ice resistance means less prediction for your opponent

you do only have 1 fighting resistance, which is bad since how common fighting attacks are, you could replace breloom with heracross, synergy is very similar but heracross gives you another fighting resistance while providing very similar type coverage to breloom, it's just a thought though
 

Gates

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What exactly is your Swampert preventing from Exploding on it by using Protect? Lead Azelfs don't need Explosion to kill it since they can use Psychic repeatedly. Lead Metagross will probably Explode since they have nothing they can do to you, but if the opponent feels like keeping Meta around and switching to a counter then you just wasted a turn. I can't think of any other leads besides those two who even use Explosion unless somebody decides to put it on something random.

Surf on Swampert is also a bit odd. If you want a water move I'd recommend Waterfall since Swampert has better Atk than SpA. If you want a special attack I'd reccommend Ice Beam since you'll get more coverage out of it.

Resttalk, SubPunch, or another defensive Rotom would be good on this team also in place of Machamp. It can tank and it resists Explosion and a lot of other common weaknesses your team has. If you want confusion still you can use Annoyer Rotom-S to get ParaFlinchFusion going. If you want an attacker you can use SubPunch on any of them. If you want a resttalker you can use any of them.
 

Sunnysunny

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That swampert needs moar roar. Im sure it would appreciate the extra hazard damage, and scouting out the rest of the opponents team is a plus.

I don't think he needs to take out breloom or scizor due to the fire weakness, because he has heatran to absorb it.
 

Gates

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I'm very glad you bumped this three week old thread to tell the OP something that most of the other posters have already said.
 

Majority

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In the cosmic sense, bumping this thread probably won't mean much.

I'll definitely try out Roar. What do you suggest I take out? Ice Beam?
 
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