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Why would we ban OP custom moves and not OP default moves?
There is nothing so bad in Default moves (I also don't think there is anything bad with any Custom move, but I don't use those so often, so I can't really say anything if there are "OP" ones). Also, DM are obligatory,and you can set up which Custom move you want. Banning a Default move it's like taking out a part of the character itself. Banning a "normal" Custom is like taking out a possibility of the character. However, banning a OP custom move it's making that character more balanced in that regard... Making the game more fair.
It isn't that simple. I have yet to play with customs and have not been in the discussion, but what would constitute as OP? What sort of threshold is set by the community to make something ban-able?
Default moves aren't obligatory when customs are turned on. And I don't see how defaults are any more a part of the character than customs are. Really though, if we're considering banning individual moves just for being "OP", Needle Storm should be first on the list....
As a mod, careful how you state your opinion, especially given this is a board for one of those sequels. From this it coming off as "it's ultimately preference, but my opinion is objective."
Agreed. The game is still being developed (if the Oct. 3 deadline is any indication, we still have another year), and it hasn't been a full year since it came out.
For the former reason, that's going to be tough. That said, hype is what helps keep games going, and telling people to stop playing is just asking for trouble. Plus, based on the on-going theme of this thread, it seems that those with quality are no better, if not worse, than the quantity.
), but if people are interested in improving their game and helping out the community isn't that reason enough for them to stay? From what I can tell, the overall issue is respect which is something that players from multiple communities/games, both casual and competitive need to improve on.
You got me there. This doesn't need to devolve into a flame war and I am kind of baiting by stating my opinions as if they are facts.
Which is why Zero is a tool for asking "WHERES OUR MIOM EQUIVALENT" the game is still in it's infancy. Relax dude, or better yet, do something positive about it instead of whining on twitter.
Again, great point. Pleny of skilled players that have TERRIBLE attitudes. In all genres of smash. (This is where melee gets a lot of negative publicity.... but hell melee has always been about arrogance / trash talk since the get go... it builds hype)
I remember when Brawl came out and I publicly threatened sakurai / charged a dbz type attack for making zero suit samus acessible through the final smash ball... lmao.I agree that people overstate their opinions, heck I remember when Brawl came out that I argued for a Neutral Skyworld (
I still haven't played with customs as I don't have the time to unlock them and set them up and everything. But I do play a lot with friends and online and I have to say that the game IS good enough on it's own.
I haven't even played the game once yet. I went to a smash 4 weekly once and brought a melee setup and just took over one of the TVs at the loft lmao
I don't know about that. Regions that aren't all for customs (Florida) seem to be doing pretty well just like regions for customs, so times even better. Unless you mean the community will be too splintered.
That's ballsy
Welp, I believe it's a more powerful attack with no oversight at all. Honestly, I've played with Customs once or twice (I am a little lazy to unlock everything) and can't say anything about any attack, but I heard about Kong Cyclone and Pikachu's Infinite Combo (it makes use of Thunder Wave and Meteor Quick-Attack).
I think my comment was not written well.
Again, that is subjective. Where exactly will that threshold stand. So what if a character becomes top tier? Many characters you might say are irrelevant without customs too. I'm just saying it isn't so simple.
…My point exactly? Were you trying to rebut me? Because I'm against banning customs, too. Sooooooo… we agree? **Puts up hand for high five*
Oh uh... half and half. I was just questioning the idea that banning something because it makes the character super omega godlk is not a great idea (in my opinion of course), but I don't know how we would actually determine that unless its painfully obvious as not all of us are pros. I would like to see a custom that does that if it exists as I just can't imagine something can do that without it being a bug or glitch (in which it should be banned). Otherwise for sure I'd like all customs there because the idea of custom moves is cool.
In theory it sounds fine, but it's a TO's nightmare.
Stop. If you have nothing nice or informative to say about smash 4 don't say anything at all.
Don't take this here. You know exactly what you're doing, so drop it.
Why do you feel the need to spread hate for smash 4? If you don't like it it's quite easy to not comment.... no need to be negative.
Critisism, as well as enouragement can be either positive or negative depending on your choice of words, or in a conversation even your tone of voice.
Hey good for you, takes a real man or woman to admit they were wrong. Again I've been there before (just google Dylan_tnga I was the biggest brawl brasher in this forum's history) so I'm not judging.
