1.) We know how to unlock everything
2.) many unlockables have multiple means for doing such
3.) Many of us are looking to unlock all character/stages as quickly as possible
My proposition: Let's try to deduce the most efficient way to get all the characters and stages through a combination of SSE, Classic, Vs., and Event modes. After all, with multiple means for unlocking everyone, one has to be the easiest/quickest.
as a reference, here's some threads with all the unlockables:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=141216
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=136080
Now, I want to figure out the most efficient means to produce the full roster of characters(35) and stages(41), and that's it...everything else can be done at one's leisure as far as I'm concerned.
Update: first off, I want to mention some details that have come into question. Any clarification on the following would be great:
1.) Can J.Puff be unlocked in classic mode? Special qualifications, i.e. difficulty or character?
2.) Only 19 events are available at the start of the game, and R.O.B. is needed to unlock 20-28. Truth? Half-Truth?
3.) C.Falcon can be unlocked by completing classic on Normal difficulty. Is there a time constraint? Can this be done on the first run-through? and what keeps you from receiving a challenge from Marth first?
If you have first-hand knowledge of these unlock methods, please share what you can.
Now, now onto the gameplans (still a little messy in places, due to the above mentioned need for clarification /apology)
Here's what I'm thinking so far:
PLAN A: QUICKEST
[450 vs. Matches] - all hidden characters, Green Hill Zone2, Flat Zone2, Pirate Ship
- Stamina against CPU with a 1HP handicap w/ Flowers on
- 10 on melee stages (Jungle Japes)
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 (Poke Stadium 1)
- 20 with Kirby (Green Greens)
- 10 with DK (75m---classic DK stage)
- 3 with Luigi (Luigi's Mansion)
- 10 with C.Falcon (Big Blue)
[3 Event Matches]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar}
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
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PLAN B: SSB:SSE ALL THE WAY (almost)
[Subspace Emissary]
- 1 run through - all hidden characters except ToonLink, J.Puff, Wolf?
- after clearing SSE return to these stages
- Iseki いせき (Wolf) iseki = ruins
- Shicchi しっち (J.Puff) is this supposed to be shichi しち?? that would mean "seven"
- Mori もり (Toon Link) mori = woods or grove
[3 Event Matches]
- (see above)
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PLAN C: COMBINATION -----UNDER CONSTRUCTION
[1 Classic run]
- under 20 min. on Normal {C.Falcon}
[35 vs. matches] {Ness, Marth, Luigi}
- 15 on Moses Island {Snake}
- 10 on melee stages {Jungle Japes}
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 {Poke Stadium 1}
- 20 with Kirby {Green Greens}
- 10 with DK {75m}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi's Mansion}
[2 Classic runs]
- 1 as Link or Zelda on Hard (Ganon)
- 1 as Link or Ganon (Toon Link and Pirate Ship) disputable
[event and multi-man]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar} character specifications to open these two events?
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
- 100-man melee or 15 more Vs. matches {Falco}
[SSE] {Lucario, G&W, Flat Zone 2, ROB}
- Beat Lucario with Meta Knight
- Play until ROB joins (about 50%) edit: I just watched a playthrough of the SSE, and it looked like this takes about 4 hours. Clarification on this would be great.)
[1 classic run]
- Complete Classic as ROB {Sonic and Green Hill Zone}
[SSE} {Wolf}
- Finish SSE, find Wolf in Iseki Ruins, take 2nd door while being lowered into pit (have to complete SSE, and go back to this level)
now the only reason I put the SSE at the end of this list, is because I don't know in what possible order characters can be unlocked through it. The placement of the needed Event matches could probably go anywhere, too.
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PLAN D: COMBO W/O SSE ------ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION
[1 Classic run]
- under 20 min. on Normal (not with Ike) {C.Falcon}
[35 vs. matches] {Ness, Marth, Luigi}
- 15 on Moses Island {Snake}
- 10 on melee stages {Jungle Japes}
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 {Poke Stadium 1}
- 20 with Kirby {Green Greens}
- 10 with DK {75m}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi's Mansion}
[9 Classic runs]
- 1 as any character any difficulty {J.Puff}
- 1 as Link or Zelda on Very Hard(Ganon and all 5 Target tests)
- 1 as Link or Ganon (Toon Link and Pirate Ship)
- 6 more as anyone else (Sonic and Green Hill Zone)
[Target Tests]
- lv.1 Target test with 30 characters (G&W, FlatZone2)
- all 5 difficulties with one character, Snake is preferred (Lucario)
[10 vs. matches]
- 10 on melee stages OR poke stadium 2 {Jungle Japes or Poke Stadium 1}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi’s Mansion}
[event and multi-man]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar}
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
- 100-man melee or 15 more Vs. matches {Falco}
[110 VS. matches]
- to total 160vs. matches (ROB)
[290 VS. matches]
- to total 450vs. matches (Wolf)
thoughts? Feedback? Come up with your own Road to Success with 35 Characters and 41 Stages. Also, anyone who is able to offer up more insight as to how quickly or easy characters are unlocked through SSE would be very helpful.
2.) many unlockables have multiple means for doing such
3.) Many of us are looking to unlock all character/stages as quickly as possible
My proposition: Let's try to deduce the most efficient way to get all the characters and stages through a combination of SSE, Classic, Vs., and Event modes. After all, with multiple means for unlocking everyone, one has to be the easiest/quickest.
as a reference, here's some threads with all the unlockables:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=141216
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=136080
Now, I want to figure out the most efficient means to produce the full roster of characters(35) and stages(41), and that's it...everything else can be done at one's leisure as far as I'm concerned.
Update: first off, I want to mention some details that have come into question. Any clarification on the following would be great:
1.) Can J.Puff be unlocked in classic mode? Special qualifications, i.e. difficulty or character?
2.) Only 19 events are available at the start of the game, and R.O.B. is needed to unlock 20-28. Truth? Half-Truth?
3.) C.Falcon can be unlocked by completing classic on Normal difficulty. Is there a time constraint? Can this be done on the first run-through? and what keeps you from receiving a challenge from Marth first?
If you have first-hand knowledge of these unlock methods, please share what you can.
Now, now onto the gameplans (still a little messy in places, due to the above mentioned need for clarification /apology)
Here's what I'm thinking so far:
PLAN A: QUICKEST
[450 vs. Matches] - all hidden characters, Green Hill Zone2, Flat Zone2, Pirate Ship
- Stamina against CPU with a 1HP handicap w/ Flowers on
- 10 on melee stages (Jungle Japes)
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 (Poke Stadium 1)
- 20 with Kirby (Green Greens)
- 10 with DK (75m---classic DK stage)
- 3 with Luigi (Luigi's Mansion)
- 10 with C.Falcon (Big Blue)
[3 Event Matches]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar}
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PLAN B: SSB:SSE ALL THE WAY (almost)
[Subspace Emissary]
- 1 run through - all hidden characters except ToonLink, J.Puff, Wolf?
- after clearing SSE return to these stages
- Iseki いせき (Wolf) iseki = ruins
- Shicchi しっち (J.Puff) is this supposed to be shichi しち?? that would mean "seven"
- Mori もり (Toon Link) mori = woods or grove
[3 Event Matches]
- (see above)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PLAN C: COMBINATION -----UNDER CONSTRUCTION
[1 Classic run]
- under 20 min. on Normal {C.Falcon}
[35 vs. matches] {Ness, Marth, Luigi}
- 15 on Moses Island {Snake}
- 10 on melee stages {Jungle Japes}
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 {Poke Stadium 1}
- 20 with Kirby {Green Greens}
- 10 with DK {75m}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi's Mansion}
[2 Classic runs]
- 1 as Link or Zelda on Hard (Ganon)
- 1 as Link or Ganon (Toon Link and Pirate Ship) disputable
[event and multi-man]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar} character specifications to open these two events?
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
- 100-man melee or 15 more Vs. matches {Falco}
[SSE] {Lucario, G&W, Flat Zone 2, ROB}
- Beat Lucario with Meta Knight
- Play until ROB joins (about 50%) edit: I just watched a playthrough of the SSE, and it looked like this takes about 4 hours. Clarification on this would be great.)
[1 classic run]
- Complete Classic as ROB {Sonic and Green Hill Zone}
[SSE} {Wolf}
- Finish SSE, find Wolf in Iseki Ruins, take 2nd door while being lowered into pit (have to complete SSE, and go back to this level)
now the only reason I put the SSE at the end of this list, is because I don't know in what possible order characters can be unlocked through it. The placement of the needed Event matches could probably go anywhere, too.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PLAN D: COMBO W/O SSE ------ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION
[1 Classic run]
- under 20 min. on Normal (not with Ike) {C.Falcon}
[35 vs. matches] {Ness, Marth, Luigi}
- 15 on Moses Island {Snake}
- 10 on melee stages {Jungle Japes}
- 10 on Poke Stadium 2 {Poke Stadium 1}
- 20 with Kirby {Green Greens}
- 10 with DK {75m}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi's Mansion}
[9 Classic runs]
- 1 as any character any difficulty {J.Puff}
- 1 as Link or Zelda on Very Hard(Ganon and all 5 Target tests)
- 1 as Link or Ganon (Toon Link and Pirate Ship)
- 6 more as anyone else (Sonic and Green Hill Zone)
[Target Tests]
- lv.1 Target test with 30 characters (G&W, FlatZone2)
- all 5 difficulties with one character, Snake is preferred (Lucario)
[10 vs. matches]
- 10 on melee stages OR poke stadium 2 {Jungle Japes or Poke Stadium 1}
- 10 with C.Falcon {Big Blue}
- 3 with Luigi {Luigi’s Mansion}
[event and multi-man]
- Event 19 {Mario Bros.}
- Event 25 {Mt. Dengan Spear Pillar}
- Event 28 {Electroplankton}
- 100-man melee or 15 more Vs. matches {Falco}
[110 VS. matches]
- to total 160vs. matches (ROB)
[290 VS. matches]
- to total 450vs. matches (Wolf)
thoughts? Feedback? Come up with your own Road to Success with 35 Characters and 41 Stages. Also, anyone who is able to offer up more insight as to how quickly or easy characters are unlocked through SSE would be very helpful.
