most effective ways to practice?

[*georgeH]

I know the general idea is to play with other people to get better, but I'm particularly having trouble nailing various types of DI and making my techskill more consistent as a spacie when against people, and my friend has trouble with meteor canceling, all of which are a little troublesome to practice alone with a cpu before moving on to actual people. any really good methods to get these down, and possibly just in-general tips for improving both on my own and against real opponents?

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

In your room, with the lights off.

(tell us which character you play first so we can give more detailed advice. Which spacie? Are they your main or just who you practice tech skill with?)

 

[*georgeH]

i usually play sheik and falco/sometimes fox, my falco being more of my main than fox but not entirely as consistent with techskill against people

 

[Brookman]

play BTT/HRC till you can meet/beat the WR strats.

 

[00000001]

To practice l-canceling either play by yourself using the name trick (dunno what it's officially called, youtube it.)

-you can also practice the timing on shield hit l-cancels by giving the comp a starman in training mode and do it this way. It's kind of tedious though to keep having to go back into the menu.

-You can play against a level 7 big character (or whatever character you're having trouble with), If I remember right the level 7 comp is the only one that will di in different ways after being launched. This I found to be useful as I mostly practice alone also.

You can practice spacing and camping by playing a high level computer and just running away...don't let it hit you at all. It can also help with dash dance timing and such

Generally playing alone gets boring and it's a matter of keeping your focus on one specific move you want to learn or one skill you lack but want to hone.


there's a video for this very topic somewhere..lemme see if I can find it.

There are a bunch of tricks and these are the one's I always fall back on when I'm doing my practicing!

 

[ERayz]

I guess most people will disagree, but playing in training mode at speed 1.5X or 2X for about 15-20 minutes while trying your best to do all your usual technical stuff helps in some way.

When I do this, then play in normal speed, the game seems slooooow, and I feel I have more time to react, and that doing technical stuff is much easier, and since it is normal speed, your muscle memory isn't affected so everything goes smoothly.

You can use lightning melee too, which is slower, but at least you can use C-stick

 

[Lovage]

ppl always suggest tons of kooky ways to practice things (turning on items, fighting vs handicap bowsers, super fast training mode etc)

but really i think the best way to practice is just fight a lv.1 fox or peach or whatever and practice comboing and moving fast and make sure you can do all the moves you try to do. for fox practice, i like to use the cpu's invincibility time when they respawn and practice shield pressure on their invincible body for a few seconds.

 

[erbanez]

I know the general idea is to play with other people to get better, but I'm particularly having trouble nailing various types of DI and making my techskill more consistent as a spacie when against people, and my friend has trouble with meteor canceling, all of which are a little troublesome to practice alone with a cpu before moving on to actual people. any really good methods to get these down, and possibly just in-general tips for improving both on my own and against real opponents?

I am NOT that bad at meteor canceling. I figured out my problem.

 

[erbanez]

And by the way, George, you suck at Melee <3

 

[Mr.Lemon]

I practice alone a lot, like every day. And I used to play against lvl.1 computers, but then when I would play against real people it seemed like I had no idea what to do since I got so used to fighting someone who would just walk up to you and f.tilt you all day. So what I do now is practice the moves that I want to learn on either the comp in training mode since he doesn't move or I'll plug in another controller into a slot and switch on "human." This way I can focus on the move I'm trying to learn and not have to worry about a computer getting in my way or him reacting the same exact way every time.

Also if you want to practice your tech skill you should go to training mode then select the stage fourside, then go down to the part of the stage where there is a small flat surface on the right that has a wall (building) on the left. Next select a remote sensor bomb place it on the flat part, then walk on it and it will shoot you over to the wall where you can tech it.
OR
You could also just select a remote sensor bomb and place it near the edge on any neutral stage and up b into it and practice teching that.

 

[Brookman]

ppl always suggest tons of kooky ways to practice things (turning on items, fighting vs handicap bowsers, super fast training mode etc)

but really i think the best way to practice is just fight a lv.1 fox or peach or whatever and practice comboing and moving fast and make sure you can do all the moves you try to do. for fox practice, i like to use the cpu's invincibility time when they respawn and practice shield pressure on their invincible body for a few seconds.

He probably doesn't have any idea of what moves to do. Perfecting tech skill can't possibly come before you learn tech skill. BTT/HRC is the most basic way to learn advanced tech. As long as you're willing to put a little time, with multiple characters (especially in btt) you can develop a pretty high level of control.

Don't try to take any easy ways out cause there isn't any. You just have to grind out tech skill and also do your best to work on your PvP.

Unless! all you care about is making Tech Skill Vids, you're best off learning bat drops and target records. (Will teach L-cancel + movement/attacking).

Spoiler

TL;DR for the ******s:

Unless there is some unreasonably good tutorial videos I recommend btt/hrc records.

here is a hrc guide.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/516492-super-smash-bros-melee/faqs/17242

 

[darkatma]

The limits for HRC are that you can't use your C stick for such things as retreating bairs and fairs.

I mostly do what lovage does against level 1 CPUs, and then sometimes i set a level 1 bowser at 0.5 damage ratio and handicap 9 vs your handicap 1. That's only to practice nairshines or doubleshine into something on shield though. It helps to vary the timing of your aerial and the l cancel when you hit someone timing.

 

[*georgeH]

thanks for all the responses, im going more for what 00000001 and lovage said, but i guess it wont hurt to do some btt runs

 

[Terry]

Good stuff. But how does one practice di? I have a good idea of how I should di, but don't di correctly due to habit. Is there any good methods to practice or can I only practice while playing other people?

 

[erbanez]

Also if you want to practice your tech skill you should go to training mode then select the stage fourside, then go down to the part of the stage where there is a small flat surface on the right that has a wall (building) on the left. Next select a remote sensor bomb place it on the flat part, then walk on it and it will shoot you over to the wall where you can tech it.
OR
You could also just select a remote sensor bomb and place it near the edge on any neutral stage and up b into it and practice teching that.

I think I'll actually try this! Thank you!