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[jugfingers]

this is what I think


Why the Effword. are mute city, rainbow cruise, Brinstar! and Corneria(in some tourneys) legal

one stage is on a ****ing race track.....

one is on a magical adventure in the sky where platforms disappear and blocks randomly fall out of the air after you stand on them for a few seconds.

one stage is randomly engulfed in lava, and falls apart.

one stage is actually ****ing bombarded by space-fighter squadron lasers.






My suggestions

suggestion 1

all matches start on final destination, the loser counter picks from yoshis, Fod, Battlefield, Dreamland

suggestion 2

normal tourney standard for 1st match stage striking random neutrals etc.

but counterpicks only consist of yoshis, FoD, battlefield, dreamland or FD

suggestion 3

Final destination and Dreamland are the only neutrals on random

counter picks only consist of Final Destination or Dreamland.




Just think if you were a samurai about to duel another samurai......to the DEATH


you wouldn't be like "hey I think we should do this on a freeway during rushhour"

or "meet me in the giant Pit of Lava"


you'd ****ing meet in an open field or some ****. c'mon this is ridiculous.

 

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[Siglemic]

rc isn't random in any way

mute and corneria are history and i'm happy

nothing random about brinstar the acid is on a set pattern it's a legit counterpick

i think all your rulesets are bad and the current one is good what's up

=]

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

what about KJ64?

also pit of lava would be a cool place to fight to the death, ever play bushido blade? they fight to the death in a sewer, bamboo forest and a pool.

 

[victra♥]

i think KJ64 is the most legit of all the CP only stages.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I argee I can camp kirby/puff to death on it as pichu ask Bunbun the rage quiter

 

[jugfingers]

ok maybe I over used the word random in my first post but still

both rc and brinstar fall apart, which is gay

 

[Nø Ca$h]

i posted my ideas 50 times

theyre mad legit

 

[EPsilon933]

both rc and brinstar fall apart, which is gay

Do you know how addictive it is to split Brinstar? It's the funnest stage in the game when you start breaking it.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i think KJ64 is the most legit of all the CP only stages.

i totally disagree. corneria sees more fighting than KJ64

 

[ArcNatural]

I don't see how Brinstar is a legit CP when breaking the stage ruins a ton of matchups. Nevermind the lave, breaking the stage alone can cause just as many problems for characters with slow air speed. Both Jiggs and Peach benefit from being able to stay in the air longer on that stage for more reasons than just lava.

I don't think PS is as big of a shift in advantage for Fox as Brinstar is for Peach/Jiggs. I just think it balances it out because since it's pretty much an autoban against those characters it leaves KJ64/DL/FD for ok CPs. I feel Fox no longer has the advantage in CP picks anymore which is why Jiggs/PEach have done better overall. This could probably be because Rainbow Cruise is never used as a CP (which it should as Fox if it's on).

You can easily see the shift of Fox/Falco being less dominant due to the loss of Corneria/GreenGreens. I feel that in terms of balance on CP stages Fox/Falco have lost their huge CPs

 

[mhenlo]

I don't think i've ever seen GreenGreens used as a CP

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Would you rather have the advantageous stages turned on or off for CP? Personally, I like the MLG ruleset a lot more than the current MBR Ruleset.

As for stage striking, i don't really care what neutral i go to first game as long as i get 1 chance to re-random.

 

[Theftz22]

Honest question here, what's wrong with mute city?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

no ledge= broken edge gaurd

cars run you over and you take like 20% each hit

people can shark under the platforms and poke you without being able to get them back

wall to be waveshined against

captain falcon isn't winning the race.


brinstar depths has less problems than it, it oonly lacks edges and moves(not at random playing around and you will figure out it turns the stage to you. also camping is fail because of the moving against campers. I played sveet on it in a serious tournment match. thank God for teching else I would have lost.

 

[CableCho57]

Mute is done

why is brinstar still here?! The lava IS random dude and yeah it's crap

rc I surprisingly like bc yeah it's not random and having ONE interesting moving stage is nice to have.

And please bring back corneria! Sure the lasers are random but it dosent send you straight up so you can be rested by jiggs like brinstar lava. And the wide stage stage reduces gimping and low ceiling make a good cp vs floaties

 

[SpiderBubble]

Bring back Corneria, DK64, Brinstar, and Mute City. Forget all the whiney peoples. Forget them. More CPs = More fun.

 

[Winston]

Really? More CPs = more fun?

When you utilize what makes those stages different from the neutrals, it almost always results in gameplay that is a lot LESS fun. The amount of "strategy" added is little compared to shift in focus to the stage features and away from what makes the game interesting, i.e. fighting. Even if the tactics don't seriously break the games or matchups (I'm not a high enough level player to confidently evaluate whether they do or not), the type of gameplay they promote I don't think should be encouraged.

-Corneria with the fin camping, super low ceiling, and getting hit by lasers once in a while.
-Brinstar with the lava doing entire stocks worth of work for you vs fastfallers, or breaking the stage and abusing it that way.
-Mute City without its edges to allow for recovery options.
-KJ64 is actually pretty OK, except for certain characters being able to seriously camp other characters there if they wanted to. Pink Shinobi vs. RockCrock is the clearest example. Fox could probably abuse Peach this way if he really tried, too.
-Rainbow Cruise I am mostly a fan of, as the diversity in stage structure actually seems like it rewards stage familiarity and general mobility over straight-up stage abuse. I don't know if there are any abusive tactics on this stage though.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

KJ64 is an amazing camping stage like the top 7 fastest in the game can basically hit puff/kirby once and run away forever and if they stop spacing you can punish them.


RC the only thing I hate about it s the fact it's movement makes jumps/recoveries higher at some points which really F***s me up sometimes, like as pichu I barely jump off the ground and up-B along the ground it's pretty useful for a number of things. but that jump ises you 4 feet up into the air so there is punishable lag and made it reverse it's usefulness., vs ice climbers is kindof of dumb and maybe vs anyone slow.

 

[Charlesz]

I agree that KJ64 is the most legit CP. I don't really care about other CP's, I actually like the diversity.

 

[kpm91]

I agree with Charlesz. Having all the CP's adds a nice diverse element to the game otherwise I think the game would get a little stale playing on the same levels over and over again.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

why is brinstar still here?! The lava IS random dude and yeah it's crap

I do not know if it is random or not but I know for a fact that it is no were near as bad as planet zebes 64 *shivers with memory of painful painful -1 stock*.