Yeah, maybe you remember M2K anti snake thread. (with the "M2K Combo" in it.)
There was a anti snake combo: grab on the edge, then nair or dair, and up b the cypher.
Diddys up b works like snakes up b.
You can mk up b against it, you get a little bit damage, but you live.
Sometimes if you miss you are between diddy and the edge and he will hit you with up b.
Grab diddy at the edge, then wait.
If he falls down, dair him
If he jumps out of your grab, jump and dair him in the right moment (when he jumps or uses side b).
Maybe you know the Single Naner Lock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzdTccsYc8
I tried it with MK, and it seems to work.
But its really hard to do.
You have to throw the banana and then directly get it with Z.
And I could do it a little bit with multiple jumps.
Jump -> Banana Down Throw -> Grab the Banane with Z -> Jump
Without touching the Ground.
Another thing I discovered is new glide attack stuff (like M2Ks glide attack to Nair)
If you want to hurry just Glide attack to Up B.
But it wont work, if you are to far away after the Glide Attack.
Another thing you can do is Glide Attack into Dair.
This Glide Attack stuff doesnt sound like sth. new, but watch the text bellow what to make after the Dair.
If you watch the new M2K vids, you will see he makes short hop Nair to Uair.
And one japanese guy made short hop Dair to Uair at an opponent.
Short hop Dair to Uair wont work at every char.
You can make short hop Dair to Fair first hit or short hop Dair to Bair first hit, but if your enemy shields you wont hit him.
If you hit the first hit of bair you can make a FTilt, its a real combo then.
And you can make short hop Dair to Dair!
I tested it with Bowser and Snake, they couldnt shield it.
Diddy could shield the second Dair.
If you hit both Dairs you can direct grab the enemy, but you have to be close to him. (good spacing while dair? ^^
)
Dair to Dair worked at Snake until the first Dair kicked him to far away for the second Dair. (30%?)
High Jump Dair to Dair worked, too, but I couldnt make other attacks after it.
I tested more with the grab stuff.
You can do a FTilt after the 2nd dair (instead of the grab), and it hits, he cant shield it. But its hard to pull off, you have to be rly fast with the Ftilt.
It worked at 0-10% against Snake. Maybe more, but I only tested 0-10%
You can make Nair instead of Dair at the second hit.
Short Hop Dair to Nair.
I dont really know, but it seems that you can make (Glide Attack ->) Short Hop Dair -> 2nd Dair/Nair -> Grab/Ftilt combo on some characters. (maybe DI will change sth., we have to test more;
glide attack to begin: the combo worked at Bowser, but not at Snake)
I hope you enjoyed reading this stuff.
Go in test mode and try this. =)
Maybe I will add videos later, but its better if you look yourself what I told you.
To pull of the short hop Dair to Dair use the A button for the 2nd Dair, it wont work with C-Stick.
Oh, and all this stuff was tested in practice mode.
I dont know, how good you can do it ingame.
There was a anti snake combo: grab on the edge, then nair or dair, and up b the cypher.
Diddys up b works like snakes up b.
You can mk up b against it, you get a little bit damage, but you live.
Sometimes if you miss you are between diddy and the edge and he will hit you with up b.
Grab diddy at the edge, then wait.
If he falls down, dair him
If he jumps out of your grab, jump and dair him in the right moment (when he jumps or uses side b).
Maybe you know the Single Naner Lock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzdTccsYc8
I tried it with MK, and it seems to work.
But its really hard to do.
You have to throw the banana and then directly get it with Z.
And I could do it a little bit with multiple jumps.
Jump -> Banana Down Throw -> Grab the Banane with Z -> Jump
Without touching the Ground.
Another thing I discovered is new glide attack stuff (like M2Ks glide attack to Nair)
If you want to hurry just Glide attack to Up B.
But it wont work, if you are to far away after the Glide Attack.
Another thing you can do is Glide Attack into Dair.
This Glide Attack stuff doesnt sound like sth. new, but watch the text bellow what to make after the Dair.
If you watch the new M2K vids, you will see he makes short hop Nair to Uair.
And one japanese guy made short hop Dair to Uair at an opponent.
Short hop Dair to Uair wont work at every char.
You can make short hop Dair to Fair first hit or short hop Dair to Bair first hit, but if your enemy shields you wont hit him.
If you hit the first hit of bair you can make a FTilt, its a real combo then.
And you can make short hop Dair to Dair!
I tested it with Bowser and Snake, they couldnt shield it.
Diddy could shield the second Dair.
If you hit both Dairs you can direct grab the enemy, but you have to be close to him. (good spacing while dair? ^^
)Dair to Dair worked at Snake until the first Dair kicked him to far away for the second Dair. (30%?)
High Jump Dair to Dair worked, too, but I couldnt make other attacks after it.
I tested more with the grab stuff.
You can do a FTilt after the 2nd dair (instead of the grab), and it hits, he cant shield it. But its hard to pull off, you have to be rly fast with the Ftilt.
It worked at 0-10% against Snake. Maybe more, but I only tested 0-10%
You can make Nair instead of Dair at the second hit.
Short Hop Dair to Nair.
I dont really know, but it seems that you can make (Glide Attack ->) Short Hop Dair -> 2nd Dair/Nair -> Grab/Ftilt combo on some characters. (maybe DI will change sth., we have to test more;
glide attack to begin: the combo worked at Bowser, but not at Snake)
I hope you enjoyed reading this stuff.
Go in test mode and try this. =)
Maybe I will add videos later, but its better if you look yourself what I told you.
To pull of the short hop Dair to Dair use the A button for the 2nd Dair, it wont work with C-Stick.
Oh, and all this stuff was tested in practice mode.
I dont know, how good you can do it ingame.
