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Mini Mafia Game Thread | Newbies are welcome! | Town wins Gheb's game | Zen next to host!

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Are people that sure Dietz is scum? I really don't see it.
you are SO ****ing worthless

anyways

if anyone wants to tell me how any sane person is legitimately townreading gorf im all ears. cant believe ****** actually want to give him the gun
 

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tho actually

i suppose its fair that if ****** want jd fukked outta hear that gorf would make the shot considering he was the first to latch onto him. that said im just not keen on it cuz id always prefer to give it to a townread which gorf isnt. whatever tho i dont give a **** about either of them living so ****s extraneous just dont forget about that ***** feel me
 

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Someone unvote. We have a scumflip and four days to talk
discusison tiem is overrated, liek what mindblowing case do you expect is really going to change everyone's minds here?

im fine giving everybody a chance to say their piece today before hammer but i dotn want to let the day drag out all 5 days, thats just excessive

Honestly I should apologize to scum for suggesting this ratio. In a normal mafia game scum gets a powerful tool in the form of their nk, in order to kill off obvious townies. In this game though they don't have that; they just have BE obvious town for THREE whole phases. Honestly 4 v 2 would have been a better ratio. Scum only has to get two misshots out (unless one of them gets killed, which is fair because town should be rewarded and scum punished in that case) and that's a lot less gruesome than having to be brownie townie for just a long time, which I can imagine is a very daunting task for scum.
idve just gone 6:2 where scum gets a vengekill or something

gorf isnt a townread so much as if he doesnt shoot jdietz as promised hes basically next in line lol. i don tsee the danger in giving him the gun, its not like he can shoot an obvtown then fallback on his buddy if hes mafia
 

#HBC | Gorf

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But with that being in said were in a swag position so meh if it'll help you guys sleep at night if I'm wrong about Dietz I'll take a bullet to the face if y'all promise to avenge me by smacking Ruy with a bullet.

...

But I don't think I'm wrong.
 

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Lurking scum in a bad spot sure are doing there lurking thing right now.

Just give Gorf the gun and be done with this.

Orbo Ryu stop being pansies give Gorf the gun or at the VERY least vote someone else if you REALLY think that we're in danger of losing this game right now (we're not).

Ryu you sure are taking a long time with that reread buddy.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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wwo taht girl is not nearly as kawaii as me... what kind of loser plays jorps anyway
Before I get to other sutff, I posted that picture because Tales of Symphonia HD came out and my friends constantly say I am just like her.

....and they are right.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Talk about confirmation bias if I'm being labelled as scum just for giving Kantrip the benefit of the doubt before he did anything in thread lol, how was I supposed to know he'd afk and flip scum for real

Uh obviously I'm not giving the gun to any of the three people who want to shoot me ToDay, but I will say of the people remaining if I go then the order should be Ryu > Gorf > Ashemu/Orbo

I have to go to a missionary meeting now, but if I'm not dead when I come back I'll see what I can do.
Dietz, no rather Jay gonna address you like this so I can read you better.

Tell me, why am I first to die? and did you role scum, if not who did.

You have my word I did not role scum, but here, tell me straight as you can if it is not you, who is it?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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I dont want dietz shot ergo. Not giving gorf the gun.
I'm going to shoot Ruy. I changed my mind. He's scum. More on that if requested but yes it's ENTIRELY connection based and based on my stellar town reads on the rest of you guys. If that deters you from giving me the gun so be it.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Well that coupled with overall uneasiness with Ruy's play that doesn't parallel his usual town-throwing-the-****ing-game-away play
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I think most likely Ash is who he states he is . . . someone from offsite who just so happens to have played mafia with other people before.
Marshy seems to know him but won't tell me stating that it would "ruin the fun."

RR I can't necessarily say that I'm in agreement with Ash about the towniness of your entrance. You've immediately AtE'd coming into the Day pleading "to not be shoot." You AtE'ing in a bad spot is not a trick you haven't pulled as scum before . . . just saying.

But what's really worrying is your indecisiveness here. There's six people alive right now. If you're town, then you know that the mafia has to one of the other five. YesterDay you said that you "absolutely trusted Sworddancer/Marshy." Okay, so that's 4 left. Now I'm not sure what your stance on Ash is now, but IIRC you had him as a town lead yesturDay and I think it's probably safe to say that read has strengthened with Kanty's scum flip. Okay, that's three left. Now you only have Orbo/Dietz/Gorf left. However, "you're not seeind Dietz." So two left. Orbo or Gorf. Literally there should be almost no hold up here beyond deciding upon those two. Which one is the last remaining scum and why? Honestly indecisiveness when PoE should make it pretty easy for a townie is kinda what I would expect exactly out of a mafiso who has to make four "mislynches" happen in order to win the game . . .

Also forgive me for throwing out generic logic tells but honestly why should you care about being shot at this point? It's not like you to care about dying for town (generic meta tells ahoy) and if you only think that the last scum is between two people then it shouldn't really be a sacrifice that worries you too much.

I know that I overuse and misuse eclipse . . . point it out and I'll yank the gun right out of Gorf's hands and shoot you toNight regardless of my read on you.

unvote

This unvote is not because Orbo asked for it but because I want to hear Ryu's responses before this Day ends.
I did, I accept all responsibility, also a lel comment to Marshy when he said the same thing to everyone in G3S because I wanted to say the same thing for lulz here.

I agree though, I;m trying to not be lol this guy is town, "Oh **** he is scum" Marshy wad right in the past and I am trying to make sure I try and read people better. This is my main weakness. People think I am town? no big deal, trusting my reads? No one does. I am trying to get a firm and solid stance without Bull**** Ruy behind it.

I'll save what I think of Dietz for later, obvious reasons here if you read above, If I had to pick one person, shoot Gorf of all people.

Vote: Nameless

ya know you are right about the not dying part, and well, go ahead and shoot me if you you think it is in town's best interest. I would 120% rather you have the gun than Gorf, if you shoot me? oh well it's because I played poor.

Just do what you need to do.
 

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The boy who cried foul.

Idk what not knowing about Kantrip's inactive as to do with you not being his partner. The whole accusation is basically that you kept him null, while not really pushing anywhere else.

Explain your reasoning for that shooting order. Also, why is Ash/Orbo on it but I'm not? Last time I checked you had me as null. Did something change between now and then? Was Marshy's "quick vote me now everyDay" posts really that townie to you?
Well I called him null for taking null actions, then we shot him for being inactive and he turned out to be scum. Now Ashemu seems okay with me going specifically because of that. If I knew he was a) scum and b) never going to post again, I wouldn't have stuck up for him not getting more involved at a time when it didn't seem important.

You're not on that list because you just capped Kantrip and I just don't see any scum in this setup voluntarily going for and then actually shooting their partner D1 when there's no nightkill. For that reason I'd be willing to bet letting you into lylo would win it for us. Ryu before Gorf because he's had more posts dedicated to the identity of Ash than looking for scum, he seems more concerned with being wrong than finding answers and is holding his reads at arm's length when he does out them. Gorf next because he's been tight lipped when asked for justification on his reads, and while he was probably right on your read it shouldn't be to his credit (also he's pushing me :p). Ash and Orbo are a toss-up after that, one of them dying should seal out the game if Ryu and Gorf don't. I have a hard time reading Ash as malicious and I don't think Orbo would be sticking up for me if he was scum.
 

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Dietz, no rather Jay gonna address you like this so I can read you better.

Tell me, why am I first to die? and did you role scum, if not who did.

You have my word I did not role scum, but here, tell me straight as you can if it is not you, who is it?
You're the first to die because you've roundaboutly done nothing this game. Every time someone asks you a question or it seems like you're about to give up some information the answer boils down to "maybe probably I'm not sure, anyone but me". I can't shake the feeling that you don't really have any hope let in this game, as if you just lost a scum partner and now don't know what to do.

I'm town, and if the remaining sucm isn't, it's likely Gorf. If not Gorf, then I have legit no clue and would probably start just picking names.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Now talk to me about Kantrip. How liable do you think he was to have been legit simply not caring what you were putting down versus actually feeling like he had to dodge you
On paper maybe, but in the real world Kantrip is still pretty null lol. If you really haven't seen any meta-play here before you'll get a feel for it eventually.
I feel like these two quotes come from a player (Dietz) who sees an unfamiliar face (Ashemu) drop what she makes out to be legit suspicion on a player who, on the surface, has said nothing indicative of alignment (Kantrip). I don't feel like a scummy would be this eager to interrogate their partners' questioner, and am more inclined to believe that it's Dietz just not being able to decipher Ash's edge, especially with the kawaii typing.

You're putting way too much stock in how much pressure you think you were actually laying down...

Serious question: did you think Potassium's suggestion for democracy was legit.
Affirmation of the previous statement. Why would one feel like the pressure is this necessary to take off of their partner at this point in time?

I'm down for sworddancer/Marshy with a gun.

Ash, what is your previous mafia experience? I'll read your posts more indepth another time, but I didn't see anything out of place when I skimmed through the thread quickly.

Orbo, what do you think of Deitz thus far?

Potassium, I'll consider you with a gun, Democracy is the way of the true real prophet. But why you going with this kind of style?
Ruy's entrance post. Blanket statements galore, but look at the last line. Carefully, now. Why, of everything mentioned so far, is this necessary to point out? It's a question that leads nowhere, but not in the obscure/straight out of left field sort of way. It's just there. You can argue that the rest of his points can lead somewhere, but why say this last part?

Plus, someone try to think of a solid stance this guy has made aside from "fully trusting nameless" with zero justification as to why. I sure as hell can't.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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You're so ****ing sweet and tender man, being the mother ****ing hero that this town needed right on #420 #yeamankeepitreal!

We get it.

You're willing to die to prove you're right​

"OH HEY RUY IS PLAYING REALLY GENUINE MAYBE WE SHOULD RECONSIDER"
*gee I hope they don't figure out I'm just saying that to pull a fast one on em murr hurr*
welp better just keep doing nothing and hope they buy it!
Ruy how do you expect people to believe you're playing as a townie when you AREN'T DOING A THING? If you're town... PLAY THE GAME CUZ THAT MEANS THERE'S A SCUM OUT THERE TO FIND. (if you're town) THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I CAN'T BARE ABOUT YOUR PLAY. In case you were still confused.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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What is this I don't even

Ruy. Tell me, no, tell everybody why I am scum. You have a reason. And stop feeling sorry for yourself please it's annoying.
 

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liek honestly i rly just watn 2 shoot ryu now,teh "Town Faction" doesnt drop games like this when theyre in this kind of situation <_____<

orbo kinda lame for wanting discussion then not saying anything btw but hes still only a last resort shot
 

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Gorf what prompted you to go back on dietz and ryu?
Ryu explain gorf.
Ash im on a military base. Im not gonna throw a huge amount out there all the time due to this.
 

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What is this I don't even

Ruy. Tell me, no, tell everybody why I am scum. You have a reason. And stop feeling sorry for yourself please it's annoying.
I don't like your early game.

Your reads outside of maybe Kantrip really don't have a basis from what I could see.
 
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