Mewtwo/Villager confirmed new Pika/G&W

[fromundaman]

So this is a thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pb9FPHOtJA&feature=youtu.be


Explanation/more stuff with it here:

https://youtu.be/8-OtZ2fPAxQ

 

[Uffe]

I think most people figured this out yesterday. I know I did, simply because I had a match between a Mewtwo and my Mewtwo reflecting it back at one another and that's when I thought how good this could be with Villager. Mewtwo's reflector obviously ups the attack damage, just as it does with Fox and Falco's reflector. When Villager pockets projectile, it's stronger. I don't think this was overlooked by Sakurai and Co. I sure hope they don't nerf the hell out of Shadow Ball in future patches because of this.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Seeing how it isn't as stupidly fast to set up as Pikachu/G&W, I can only hope this isn't nerfed in the future.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Wait...so confusion is not only a reflector but it increases the damage of the projectile that it reflects?

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Wait...so confusion is not only a reflector but it increases the damage of the projectile that it reflects?

Yep!

 

[godogod]

Wait...so confusion is not only a reflector but it increases the damage of the projectile that it reflects?

By 1.4x.

 

[Trifroze]

Fully charged snaring aura sphere from pocket kills at 0% upon sending it out and they didn't do anything to it. Probably not going to modify this either, and if they do they won't do it by nerfing Shadow Ball.

 

[Maple42]

Pocket + Strong Projectile is nothing new; if the opposing team is even a little knowledgeable of doubles, it will be easily seen through.

 

[link2702]

not sure why this was compared to pika+gw....

 

[Spirst]

not sure why this was compared to pika+gw....

Back on early 3DS days, Pikachu could thunder and fill up the bucket for a OHKO move (at least I think it was. If not, close enough). This is similar in that one partner absorbs a projectile then uses it for dumb stuff.

 

[link2702]

Back on early 3DS days, Pikachu could thunder and fill up the bucket for a OHKO move (at least I think it was. If not, close enough). This is similar in that one partner absorbs a projectile then uses it for dumb stuff.

I know that.

But this isn't exactly the same situation. After all everyone knows M2 has a strong projectile as well as a reflector, and villager can pocket it. This is something an opposing team will see coming, and it requires there to be a decent amount of space between villager and mew2 in order for mewtwo to be able to reflect it back reliably in order to set it up to be the OHKO.

I just don't think this one will really be on the level of pika/gw. pika/gw was quick and thunder filled the bucket in one hit, and they only had to be next to each other. They didn't have to have a whole lot of space between each other to set up the bucket.

 

[Igzex]

This video taught me that apparently if you match up mewtwo with villager you find where you can purchase meme run for the wii u nowadays...

 

[fromundaman]

Well it does OHKO most characters even when it isn't reflected, it just needs to get pocketed once. Also every single character dies at 0% from easy throw team combos with this team if Villager has a SB pocketed.
Unlike most characters, this team can actually bounce it back and forth infinitely due to pocket apparently never getting beaten (After 2 bounces Shadow ball normally ignores reflectors for some reason).


As for the silly memes... well this tactic is super dumb so we made a super dumb video for it XD

 

[KaptenFullkorn]

By 1.4x.

Do we know how much this stacks? I played some for glory yesterday and played a mewtwo ditto and killed a mewtwo with one
fully charged Shadow ball. I fired it, he reflected it and i reflected it again - boom a 0% 1 hit KO... was pretty redonk since i just finnished him off a couple of seconds before with a dairspike.