Data Meta Knight: Hitboxes and Frame Data [3.6]

[MegaAmoonguss]

IIRC it is 8 and AFAIK every character has the same amount of invincibility grabbing the ledge and waiting on the ledge.

8 frames of invincibility? That definitely doesn't sound right lol

 

[Chesstiger2612]

It is 37 frames of intangibility of which the first 8 are non-actionable, after that you can decide to ledgejump, ledgeroll, ledge attack or ledgedrop

 

[MegaAmoonguss]

It is 37 frames of intangibility of which the first 8 are non-actionable, after that you can decide to ledgejump, ledgeroll, ledge attack or ledgedrop

Ok awesome, thanks!

 

[victinivcreate1]

I'm kinda confused

When are the hitboxes and cool down frames for

Drill Rush
Mach Tornado
Full DC (with slash) and IDC

Not particularly good at interpreting frame data, and I'm making a comprehensive guide, and I need the data for this.

 

[Espi]

I'm kinda confused

When are the hitboxes and cool down frames for

Drill Rush
Mach Tornado
Full DC (with slash) and IDC

Not particularly good at interpreting frame data, and I'm making a comprehensive guide, and I need the data for this.

I think IDC's hitbox comes out on frame 7. Tornado's hitbox comes out on frame 8 I believe.

 

[Chesstiger2612]

I'm kinda confused

When are the hitboxes and cool down frames for

Drill Rush
Mach Tornado
Full DC (with slash) and IDC

Not particularly good at interpreting frame data, and I'm making a comprehensive guide, and I need the data for this.

Drill Rush: frame 21
Mach tornado: frame 8 totally meant 9
IDC: frame 7 (view Sartron's post). Btw, the input window is a relatively new addition in the frame data thread and it might be that the frame 7 misinformation has spread somehow far already
Full DC: frame 37

 

[Sartron]

Drill Rush: frame 21
Mach tornado: frame 8
IDC: frame 7
Full DC: frame 37

Mach Tornado: Frame 9
IDC: Frame 13

 

[victinivcreate1]

Wait IDC is 13 frames? Really? Feels a lot faster than that.

 

[Espi]

Someone spread false information

 

[TheGravyTrain]

@ Sartron
Can you double check down throw's angle? I guess it could be my controller (dolphin), but my opponents (just tested roy) reach the ground earlier with down and away then just away, which shouldn't be the case since its an angle of 50 (not 45).

 

[Sadface]

You are amazing for keeping this updated :D

 

[Sartron]

@ Sartron
Can you double check down throw's angle? I guess it could be my controller (dolphin), but my opponents (just tested roy) reach the ground earlier with down and away then just away, which shouldn't be the case since its an angle of 50 (not 45).

I double checked it, and yes, it is 50 degrees.

 

[Narelex]

Could I get a 3.5 Change-log I was certain his up smash used to be 3 frames.

Also I appreciate the work you put into this list. =D

EDIT It was never 3 frames. They literally have a changelog and I read it the day it came out >_<. I should really stay off the internet when I drink

 

[Sartron]

Could I get a 3.5 Change-log I was certain his up smash used to be 3 frames.

Also I appreciate the work you put into this list. =D

What do you mean changelog? 3.5 -> 3.6 beta changelog is on projectmgame.com
Up smash has never been 3 frames

 

[Narelex]

What do you mean changelog? 3.5 -> 3.6 beta changelog is on projectmgame.com
Up smash has never been 3 frames

I shouldn't post when I drink whoops. I literally have no clue what I meant, I must have been smashed.

At least drunk me was courteous enough to thank you. My Canadian is showing

 

[bubbaking]

@ Sartron , do you have the glide attack frame data in here? I couldn't find it anywhere. Also, were both of MK's dimensional cape attacks homogenized, or do they simply have the same hitbox and frame data?

 

[Sartron]

@ Sartron , do you have the glide attack frame data in here? I couldn't find it anywhere.

I've added Glide Attack inside of the Up Special section now.

Also, were both of MK's dimensional cape attacks homogenized, or do they simply have the same hitbox and frame data?

There's still a strong and quick down special. They share the same frame data, they just have different hitbox damages. Although technically the difference is that the strong one appears frame 37 and the weaker one is as early as frame 11.

 

[bubbaking]

Sorry, I should have been more explicit. As of 3.0, if MK was facing, say, right, and he ended his DC by pressing the C-stick right (so he flashes forwards), he would swing his sword in (and his ending pose would be holding the sword across his chest). However, if in this same scenario he ended his DC by pressing the stick left (so he flashes backwards), he would swing his sword outwards (his pose would have his sword arm outstretched). All of this assumes that he ended it facing right as well. Do you know what I'm talking about?

 

[Sartron]

Sorry, I should have been more explicit. As of 3.0, if MK was facing, say, right, and he ended his DC by pressing the C-stick right (so he flashes forwards), he would swing his sword in (and his ending pose would be holding the sword across his chest). However, if in this same scenario he ended his DC by pressing the stick left (so he flashes backwards), he would swing his sword outwards (his pose would have his sword arm outstretched). All of this assumes that he ended it facing right as well. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Ah, I know what you're talking about. Regardless of the animation you get, the hitboxes and frame data are the same.

 

[Narelex]

So not sure if its just me but its currently Mario in all the Gifs for some reason.

 

[TheGravyTrain]

I can verify, it is showing Mario for me too, gifs and data (like being able to angle ftilt up, specials, etc)

 

[Sartron]

Fixed, accidentally copy pasted the wrong thread to fix the thread now that collapse is broken by the smashboards update.

 

[Taytertot]

jab is +2 on shield?! jesus i need to use this!

 

[Narelex]

jab is +2 on shield?! jesus i need to use this!

Hold on there, you stop slicing at frame 25 but you're stuck in the animation until 36 since it has no ISA. So its still not safe on shield. Since they have 9+ frames to punish you. It's fairly easy to misinterpret the frame data without looking at the whole picture.

TLDR Jab isn't safe on shield.

 

[Taytertot]

Hold on there, you stop slicing at frame 25 but you're stuck in the animation until 36 since it has no ISA. So its still not safe on shield. Since they have 9+ frames to punish you. It's fairly easy to misinterpret the frame data without looking at the whole picture.

TLDR Jab isn't safe on shield.

oh then i misunderstood the info on there. that makes more sense.

 

[Sartron]

Hold on there, you stop slicing at frame 25 but you're stuck in the animation until 36 since it has no ISA. So its still not safe on shield. Since they have 9+ frames to punish you. It's fairly easy to misinterpret the frame data without looking at the whole picture.

TLDR Jab isn't safe on shield.

oh then i misunderstood the info on there. that makes more sense.

Those advantages are actually leftovers I seem to have skimmed over back when I used to organize data by subaction. I've updated it to be accurate now, my apologies and thanks for noticing.

 

[Tealz]

do you know what MKs weight is?
Edit: Found it. His weight is 79

 

[Narelex]

• Up to date as of Project M 3.6.
• First animation plays at 1x speed, second animation plays at 1/2x speed. GIFs run at 30fps.
• All hitbox/throw calculations are done on the assumption of hitting/throwing a weight of 100 at 0 damage.
• Hitboxes with the same ID replace older hitboxes of the same ID.
• Hitlag calculations include the hitlag multiplier, and are not included in animation times.
• Hurtboxes in the BrawlBox animations disappearing do not reflect their ingame representations.
• Debug Mode GIFs include hitbox interpolation but do not include hurtboxes or stretched hitboxes.

Spoiler: Jab

Spoiler: Dash Attack

Spoiler: Forward Tilt

Spoiler: Up Tilt

Spoiler: Down Tilt

Spoiler: Forward Smash

Spoiler: Up Smash

Spoiler: Down Smash

Spoiler: Neutral Air

Spoiler: Forward Air

Spoiler: Back Air

Spoiler: Up Air

Spoiler: Down Air

Spoiler: Neutral Special (Mach Tornado)

Spoiler: Side Special (Drill Rush)

Spoiler: Up Special (Shuttle Loop)

Spoiler: Down Special (Dimensional Cape)

Spoiler: Grabs

Spoiler: Throws

Spoiler: Taunts

Spoiler: Dodges and Get Up Options

Spoiler: Ledge Options

Spoiler: Thread Changelog (11/28/15)

All the Gifs are broken atm. Not sure why.

 

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As an update for people checking out this thread, all the Gifs work properly and the data is up to date.