Megaman, Pac-Man, and Sonic = THE perfect 3rd party trifecta (PAC-MAN CONFIRMED THE DREAM IS REAL!!)

[Branman64]

Yeah. I forgot! Silly me! Simon is just like Mario/Megaman! He is literally an icon that everyone knows regardless of ever playing his games! How could he not be part of the 3rd party trifecta?! What an injustice! /sarcasm.

Castlevania was a very popular game for the nes and snes. Plus Lords of Dhadow on 3ds just came out although they should go with the NES clasic design.

 

[Morbi]

Castlevania was a very popular game for the nes and snes. Plus Lords of Dhadow on 3ds just came out although they should go with the NES clasic design.

Thanks for making my day. It wasn't going so well, but you changed that. Not even joking.

I don't have anything against Simon. I just don't think he is relevant to this thread.

 

[Branman64]

Thanks for making my day. It wasn't going so well, but you changed that. Not even joking.

I don't have anything against Simon. I just don't think he is relevant to this thread.

How?

 

[UberMadman]

Personally I have nothing against Pac-Man and would love to have him in the roster, but I'd prefer Sonic and Snake. Still, since Snake is possibly getting the boot, Pac-Man would be alright... though let's be honest here, isn't there someone more fitting for Smash who we'd all prefer?

Spoiler

From this guy's deviantart, by the way.

 

[UberMadman]

Also, does anyone know how to add spoiler tags? Just a quick curiosity.

 

[Zuby]

Sure, if there's one thing Smash needs it's a morbidly obese little guy who lives to eat everything in his path.

Wait, so what does Pac-Man add again?

 

[UberMadman]

Sure, if there's one thing Smash needs it's a morbidly obese little guy who lives to eat everything in his path.

Well when you put it that way, I think he'll fit right in.

EDIT: For some reason his image was not showing for me, and I missed his point because of it. My bad.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Replace Pacman with Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia and I fully agree. Or just take out Pacman in general.

Sorry, but considering how little value Pacman has in modern gaming compared to Sonic and even Mega (despite lack of love from Capcom), there's nothing even slightly interesting or hype worthy about him to have me want him at all.

 

[Kapus]

I like Pac Man's arcade game, but I don't really want him in Smash Bros. I'd rather have a more interesting Namco character.

Sonic and Mega Man I'm cool with, though.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

There is no such thing as a more interesting Namco character than their mascot.

It's either Pac Man or nobody for Namco.

 

[UberMadman]

There is no such thing as a more interesting Namco character than their mascot.

It's either Pac Man or nobody for Namco.

Eh... well, maybe for the sake of likelihood to be represented, but there are many Namco characters that would probably be cooler characters IF they were put into Smash Bros. - it's just that too many of them are far too obscure.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Which is what I meant none of the Tekken guys or Lloyd, etc would ever get over a gaming icon with Sakurai's new 3rd party rules.

 

[Evil-Guy]

You mean the games where Pacman is just being a complete camel-jockey?

AWWW ! This is very cute! I hope they make him small and adorable and make him roll around
A cuter jigglypuff!

 

[DakotaBonez]

Also, does anyone know how to add spoiler tags? Just a quick curiosity.

The code for spoiler tags is COLLAPSE

I believe the likelihood of Pac Man getting in is higher than any other 3rd party at this pointBut, while Pac Man comes to mind when I think about old videogame mascots and he could be included in the game no sweat, his character doesn't excite people as much as say, Simon Belmont who is a much more iconic character from NES days. I mean the name Castlevania is part of a nintendo pioneered genre, Metroidvania, and he has a plethora of moveset potential.

If I were to choose any 3rd Party character though it'd be Banjo & Kazooie. I mean Travis Touchdown would actually match B&K in my hype department but there's no way they'd add the main character from one of the most hardcore mature titles that receives universal acclaim for its story, humor, etc and HOLY F#@$#@% S#@$ NO MORE HEROES IS SO GOOD ##@#$$$%#@$%$%#But it lacks the actual depth, polish and childish wonderment of Banjo and Kazooie.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Agreed with the OP. Mario vs Sonic vs Megaman vs Pac-Man (and I'd like to keep Snake too) would be the ultimate battle of gaming history, including the four most influential and recognizable icons in the industry (and Pikachu's in the game too!). Being able to participate in such a battle would be amazing. I wholly hope for all four characters to make the roster. With Mario and Megaman confirmed, it's already halfway there.

 

[Neanderthal]

While Megaman is very popular and loveable, I don't quite see him on that same iconic level as Mario, Pac-Man and Sonic.
I'd say Link and Pikachu are more iconic.

 

[soviet prince]

Replace Pacman with Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia and I fully agree. Or just take out Pacman in general.

Sorry, but considering how little value Pacman is in modern gaming compared to Sonic and even Mega (despite lack of love from Capcom), there's nothing even slightly interesting or hype worthy about him to have me want him at all.

this game is not just about MODERN gaming, it's about past present and possable even future. Pacman is imp icon of the past he will fit right in

 

[Arteen]

Judging by the attention Sakurai put into Megaman's move set and appearance, he's concerned about making newcomers as faithful as possible, with no generic punches and kicks. Pac-man could certainly have a move set, but a faithful one would be difficult.

 

[PlayerXIII]

People that think Pacman has no place because he has no influence in modern gaming: We are speaking about those that pretty much defined Video Games, the fouding fathers, the gods: Mario, Sonic, Pacman and Megaman - all 4 are fantastic games and all defined video gaming in the early days. It doesn't matter their influence now but their influence back then. Also, what influence do the Ice Climbers have nowadays? ROB? G&W? Plus, you can go outside and ask someone who each one of these guys is and they will tell Mario is a video game character, Sonic is a blue fast thingy, Pacman is that ball that is chased by ghosts and Megaman is that blue cute robot (I literally ripped this off some of my teachers) because these 4 right now are general knowledge.

 

[The Real Gamer]

While Megaman is very popular and loveable, I don't quite see him on that same iconic level as Mario, Pac-Man and Sonic.
I'd say Link and Pikachu are more iconic.

In modern day gaming yes Megaman has lost a bit of his shine but back in the day he might as well have been on the same level. The fact that he's still as popular as he is now shows how amazing his older games were.

 

[Groose]

Personally, whenever I get bored with a Super Smash Bros. game, I have computers duke it out. For example, when Melee came out, I enjoyed turning on one-stock matches between a level 9 Bowser and a level 9 Mario. It was kind of fun to watch, and it definitely helped my playing abilities.

Mario vs Sonic vs Pac-Man vs Mega Man. I've been begging for this fight for years now.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

While Pac-Man is very popular and loveable, I don't quite see him on that same iconic level as Mario, Megaman and Sonic.
I'd say Link and Pikachu are more iconic.

That's better. I can see The 3 Kings of Platforming as actual characters.

Pac-Man just seems more like a "thing". Sorta like R.O.B.

 

[TheTuninator]

I can sympathize with both parties on this one. Pac-Man is a gaming icon, but unlike Mega Man, Sonic, or Mario, we won't be getting the character's iconic form. We'd be getting his 3D one, which just isn't the same.

 

[The Real Gamer]

That's better. I can see The 3 Kings of Platforming as actual characters.

Pac-Man just seems more like a "thing". Sorta like R.O.B.

Doesn't really matter how you seem him tbh... He still has had more influence on gaming than most other characters combined.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Doesn't really matter how you seem him tbh... He still has had more influence on gaming than most other characters combined.

Now you're just overrating due to nostalgia. Yes, all four have had major influences on gaming, but here's the difference.

Mario, Sonic and Megaman have had continual influences due to having new and well-known appearances in new media over time, whether it's their own or a crossover. They've had major influences on gaming several time in several different years.

Pac-Man, on the other hand, has only had a major gaming influence once. And it was a looong time ago. The average person these days seems to know Pac-Man more as a joke referenced in their favorite cartoon, movie or comic rather than from any video game after the original arcade one.

And as much as it may piss off retro fans, old games can only get you so far. ( Besides, as a side-note, Ms.Pac-Man's game was the more popular one. It'd be some **** if he got shafted for his wife instead. XD )

 

[Cobalsh]

Captain Falcon is a bounty hunter
G&W has many games that involve him doing many different things
ROB is a robot
Villager collects stuff.
Wii Fit Trainer does Yoga

Pac man eats spheres. I mean you can give him arms and legs but no other note worthy attributes. It's difficult to make something like that exciting. The difference between Pacman and these characters is that the other characters have gimmicks, or something noteworthy. Even if they aren't exactly fighters, they have a gimmick. Captain Falcon is racer, but he is a bounty hunter. G&W is just a game, but he has a bunch of games involving him doing many things, ROB just spins tops, but he's a robot, Villager collects stuff, but he has a lot of stuff, Wii Fit Trainer is a yoga instructor, but she is athletic. I honestly can't think of everything for pacman except for eating spheres since he has no impact on the modern gaming world.

Pacman was in Street Fighter X Tekken, but you didn't play AS Pacman, you played with him in some wooden robot suit thing with no attacks relating to what he is or does, a total cop-out. I don't want to see that again.

That "thing's" name is Mokujiin, and it comes from Tekken. It randomizes another character's moveset, which is what I hope it would do in SFxT. Please, learn before being over-powered knowledge-wise by a 14-year old.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Having all 4 together would truly draw in so much party it'd be enough to trump any fighting game in the whole world's existence.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Now you're just overrating due to nostalgia. Yes, all four have had major influences on gaming, but here's the difference.

Mario, Sonic and Megaman have had continual influences due to having new and well-known appearances in new media over time, whether it's their own or a crossover. They've had major influences on gaming several time in several different years.

Pac-Man, on the other hand, has only had a major gaming influence once. And it was a looong time ago. The average person these days seems to know Pac-Man more as a joke referenced in their favorite cartoon, movie or comic rather than from any video game after the original arcade one.

And as much as it may piss off retro fans, old games can only get you so far. ( Besides, as a side-note, Ms.Pac-Man's game was the more popular one. It'd be some **** if he got shafted for his wife instead. XD )

What do you mean Pacman doesn't have continual influence? Do people not play his games to this day? Is he still a household name?

That's like saying Tetris is overrated thanks to nostalgia.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

What do you mean Pacman doesn't have continual influence? Do people not play his games to this day? Is he still a household name?

That's like saying Tetris is overrated thanks to nostalgia.

Tetris IS overrated due to nostalgia. It's just excused because it truly is the perfect game.

Any game can be applied to Tetris. ANY GAME. XD

And to answer your questions in accordance to the modern day household: No, no and no~

 

[TheTuninator]

What do you mean Pacman doesn't have continual influence? Do people not play his games to this day? Is he still a household name?

That's like saying Tetris is overrated thanks to nostalgia.

2D Pac-Man is a household name. 3D Pac-Man is different in design, and is not a household name. This is an important distinction to consider.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Tetris IS overrated due to nostalgia. It's just excused because it truly is the perfect game.

Any game can be applied to Tetris. ANY GAME. XD

And to answer your questions in accordance to the modern day household: No, no and no~

I think you're the one underrating how popular Pacman is in general. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone (who's at least semi-competent in terms of keeping up to date with technology) who doesn't know who Pacman is.

@above: Design doesn't matter. 2D or 3D Pacman is still Pacman.

 

[volbound1700]

It also doesn't help that Sakurai already dealt with characters who don't have any move sets. (Captain Falcon)

Give me a full move-set.[/quote]

How about you go visit the Pac-Man thread, plenty of movesets there.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I think you're the one underrating how popular Pacman is in general. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone (who's at least semi-competent in terms of keeping up to date with technology) who doesn't know who Pacman is.

@above: Design doesn't matter. 2D or 3D Pacman is still Pacman.

Did I say people don't know who Pac-Man is? No. Everyone knows what a Pac-Man is. That little yellow thing that eats stuff and gets "bad touched" by ghosts.

Did I say that most people don't play his games regularly int heir household? Yes. I live in a surprisingly gamer populated area and I also travel a lot to different cities and states on occasion for gaming events (and other stuff) or just to see other close families I know who game.

Pac-Man is the last thing ever talked about if there' a big discussion about icon or characters or played at any of these. Especially the 3D Pac-Man.

Pac-Man is on the level of a game like Angry Birds now. A ****ter Game. (A game you play while on the ****ter aka a time killer)

 

[DakotaBonez]

I decided to think up some moves for pacman, it was easier than I thought but I only used features from the original game.

B - Chomp ( Mash B to Wakka Wakka)
Side B - Power Pellet Dash (Fox's Side B?)
Up B - Fruit (Imagine that fruit spawns in the air above pacman so he leaps up to Chomp it)
Down B - Ghosts
I don't really know what to do with the ghosts. It'd be cool if they chased Pac around, or they could be used as a counter attack, where if you hit pacman during this special, a ghost pops out and smacks you or something.

Maybe his A attack could be Chomp and he can walk around while using it like Megaman.

 

[HeroMystic]

I don't see the appeal for Pac-Man, to be honest.

What's so appealing about him outside of simply being a gaming icon during the beginnings of video games?

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I don't see the appeal for Pac-Man, to be honest.

What's so appealing about him outside of simply being a gaming icon during the beginnings of video games?

EXACTLY.

The other 3 have a strong appeal outside of being gaming icons, which is why their fanbases are so large.

Pac-Man? Not so much. He's just one of those old characters that everyone knows, but that's about all there is to him. He's old. That's it.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Did I say people don't know who Pac-Man is? No. Everyone knows what a Pac-Man is. That little yellow thing that eats stuff and gets "bad touched" by ghosts.

Did I say that most people don't play his games regularly int heir household? Yes. I live in a surprisingly gamer populated area and I also travel a lot to different cities and states on occasion for gaming events (and other stuff) or just to see other close families I know who game.

Pac-Man is the last thing ever talked about if there' a big discussion about icon or characters or played at any of these. Especially the 3D Pac-Man.

Pac-Man is on the level of a game like Angry Birds now. A ****ter Game. (A game you play while on the ****ter aka a time killer)

You're seriously comparing Angry Birds... the iPhone flavor of the month to a classic game that's been around for longer than most people on this board hav probably been alive.

OK we get it dude... you don't like Pacman. I think you've made that clear enough. Lol

 

[8-peacock-8]

Angry birds.....yep. Not touching that argument with a ten foot poll.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

You're seriously comparing Angry Birds... the iPhone flavor of the month to a classic game that's been around for longer than most people on this board hav probably been alive.

OK we get it dude... you don't like Pacman. I think you've made that clear enough. Lol

His age is irrelevant. There's still no substance to him or his games.

Besides, I don't dislike Pac-Man at all. I simply don't see him as a character or anything interesting with any kind of depth. Basically, there isn't anything to "like" about him or to be appealed by him with, as HeroMystic said.

Just cause he's old doesn't mean he gets special privileges or a "get-in-free" card, nor does it automatically make him excited, as only a very mall group of hardcore retro fans will be happy for his inclusion while realistically, the other responses will range from "Meh" to "Uh, ok?" to "Why?" to "No."

 

[Arteen]

Megaman still gets games, but I'd hardly call the modern franchise "influential". The average person has never heard of Megaman ZX Spectrum 4 or whatever those games are called now. Even Capcom doesn't care about Megaman anymore. Pac-Man is bigger and will always be bigger than pretty much every SSB4 contender besides Mario himself and maybe Pikachu.

Pac-Man gets new games too! The relatively recent Pac-Man Championship Edition and its DX followup are the best Pac-Man games so far, even better than the original and Ms Pac-Man.