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Matchup Chart Project 2015 - Calling Mr. Game & Watch Mains!

Zareidriel

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Hello Mr. Game & Watch boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."



So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

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Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit & Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
******//////////


Mark each character with a + for a match where Mr. Game & Watch HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Mr. Game & Watch HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Mr. Game & Watch IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Mr. Game & Watch is in neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!
 

Folie

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personally I don't think you're going to get accurate results from this, based off what I've seen on the sm4sh boards in general. A lot of questionable opinions are flung around and some people or entire boards are borderline delusional. I also don't think popular vote based data will really cover the differences between, say, a 55-45 MU and a 65-35 MU. It's also probably too early for this.

Might as well put down my votes tho

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Bowser -
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt -
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario +
Luigi +
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth +
Lucina 0
Metaknight +
Ness +
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////
 
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steuben

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probably 90% wrong!

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Bowser -
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon +
Charizard -
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong -
Duck Hunt 0
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja +
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede -
Kirby -
Link -
Little Mac +
Lucario +
Luigi 0
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda 0
R.O.B. -
Robin 0
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik 0
Shulk -
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman -
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler -
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////
 
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This is how I feel. Some of the 0's come from the fact that we have an extreme advantage over them (like comboing the crap out of Bowser) but they also have an extreme advantage over us (He kills us mad early) so while I still hold the matchup is even, it is volatile as all crap, so it will most likely be a 2 stock from either side.

Also I'm probably wrong on a few (or more) of these points, but in my time with the game thus far, here's what I think

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon +
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight +
Ness 0
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu +
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////
 

NouveauRétro

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Well, this is fun. I'm pretty confident I'll be... 60% on the money! I try to be realistic but I can be a little pessimistic so might balance out any optimists out there.
Some of these advantages are theoretical because the matchup in reality is annoying as all hell...

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon -
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt -
Falco +
Fox - (---)
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight +
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach +
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////
 

SeanS

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I will say that, for the record, I, and probably most of the G&Ws as well, are very skeptical of this endeavor.

Most boards will think they have an advantage on G&W. even though they haven't played a good one because he's pretty rare.

And this kind of MU chart is absolutely not going to show differences in matchup severity.
 

Zareidriel

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You are not alone, lol, EVERYBODY, myself included, is skeptical of this endeavor.

Matchup severity is a feature I'd like to have in the next version, but I feel like it would complicate things a little too much for our first try.
 

Infinite901

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EDIT: I changed a few.

Bowser -
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon ++
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt -
Falco +
Fox -
Ganondorf 0
Greninja -
Ike -
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link -
Little Mac 0
Lucario +
Luigi 0
Mario 0
Dr. Mario 0
Marth -
Lucina -
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena 0
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach +
Zelda +
R.O.B. 0
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik --
Shulk -
Toon Link -
Villager +
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy -
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler -
Swordfighter 0
Gunner +
 
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Zorthax

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Gonna be honest, can't see this working out too well, but like you said, it'll be interesting regardless.

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr -
Captain Falcon +
Charizard -
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf 0
Greninja -
Ike -
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi +
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth -
Lucina -
Metaknight +
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena -
Pikachu +
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda 0
R.O.B. 0
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy -
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler 0
Swordfighter 0
Gunner -
******//////////
 

Zareidriel

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Voting closes tomorrow at midnight. Get those ballots in!
 

Furret24

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Because why not?

Oh, and I'm still pretty skeptical about this. :/
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Bowser -
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon +
Charizard -
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf 0
Greninja -
Ike -
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac 0
Lucario -
Luigi +
Mario +
Dr. Mario +
Marth -
Lucina -
Metaknight +
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu +
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. 0
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy -
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler +
Swordfighter 0
Gunner -
******//////////
 

Woohoo982

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon =
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt =
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch =
Ganondorf +
Greninja -
Ike -
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link =
Little Mac +
Lucario -
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario +
Marth =
Lucina =
Metaknight -
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena =
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit +
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. +
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk =
Toon Link =
Villager =
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi =
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic -
Ryu +
Roy =
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler =
Swordfighter =
Gunner +
******//////////
 

Mr. Escalator

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight +
Ness 0
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. 0
Robin 0
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////

This doesn't reflect the matchups in great detail, but it gives a good baseline to work with. There's a lot of volatility in several matchups, but the ratio is even - a lot of heavies are even or an advantage for G&W, but it can be very swingy. Some characters I don't feel as strongly about. Those are my thoughts.

I hope it's not too late, Zareidriel Zareidriel . Either way, I don't mind :^)
 
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Folie

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yeah after reading posts here and on other character subforums this definitely is not going to yield accurate results whatsoever lol
 

MistressRemilia

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight +
Ness 0
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. 0
Robin 0
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario +
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler +
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
******//////////

This doesn't reflect the matchups in great detail, but it gives a good baseline to work with. There's a lot of volatility in several matchups, but the ratio is even - a lot of heavies are even or an advantage for G&W, but it can be very swingy. Some characters I don't feel as strongly about. Those are my thoughts.

I hope it's not too late, Zareidriel Zareidriel . Either way, I don't mind :^)
I mostly agree, i'm going to do some few changes which will be my list, I'm kind of a nobody in the g&w community, but i do main him, just that the forum kind of seem overly depressive on the character at time, anyway:

Bowser -
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard 0
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike 0
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede 0
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac +
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario 0
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight +
Ness +
Olimar -
Palutena +
Pikachu 0
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. +
Robin 0
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager 0
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman +
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy +
Mewtwo +
Lucas +
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
 

SmileyTheGaW

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Bowser 40:60
Bowser Jr 45:55
Captain Falcon 45:55
Charizard 40:60
Diddy Kong 35:65
Donkey Kong 60:40
Duck Hunt 45:55
Falco 70:30
Fox 55:45
Mr. Game & Watch 100:100 lol
Ganondorf 60:40
Greninja 45:55
Ike 40:60
Jigglypuff 80:20
King Dedede 25:75
Kirby 55:45
Link 50:50
Little Mac 45:55
Lucario 60:40
Luigi 55:45
Mario 55:45
Dr. Mario 45:55
Marth 20:80
Lucina 35:65
Metaknight 50:50
Ness 45:55
Olimar 35:65
Palutena 60:40
Pikachu 60:40
Pit & Dark Pit 50:50
Peach 50:50
Zelda 70:30
R.O.B. 40:60
Robin 35:65
Rosalina 40:60
Samus 60:40
Sheik 60:40
Shulk 30:70
Toon Link 45:55
Villager 45:55
Wario 55:45
Wii Fit Trainer 60:40
Yoshi 55:45
Zero Suit Samus 45:55
Megaman 45:55
Pacman 40:60
Sonic 40:60
Ryu 60:40
Roy 45:55
Mewtwo 50:50
Lucas 40:60
Brawler Doesnt
Swordfighter Really
Gunner Matter





Im willing to defend all MU spreads, ask about them if you want maybe we'll both learn from it if you have info supporting different from me
 
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