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Marth vs fox

StripesOrBars

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I am no longer being sarcastic.

However, if we ever meet bluedeath, $50 MM sir.

Then when I beat you, I will tell you all the things you did wrong in the match, second by second.
 

thebluedeath1000

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I accept you prick. You came in here trying to start something with me then tried to pass it off as sarcasm when you seen how stupid you were.

You made a reference to me being nitpicky about times with your seconds comment. PEOPLE LIKE ME TO BE LIKE THAT for your information.

I don't see you critquing people on the marth boards and trying to help out so STFU and go back where you came from.
 

Miggz

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I am no longer being sarcastic.

However, if we ever meet bluedeath, $50 MM sir.

Then when I beat you, I will tell you all the things you did wrong in the match, second by second.
Just outa curiosity, do you have any vids I can see? Very storng words...you have me interested. Hope the answer is "yes."
 

StripesOrBars

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Um, ok.

First off, what is it with people like you always insulting other peoples intelect when you have no idea what my IQ is? It's pathetic really, that you have no other way to get at me than blind bashes at my intellegence. But that's on you, mr smarty pants.

2ndly, relax, you don't have to find every mistake he's making and then tell him. Tell him a couple things to work on. It seemed like you were trying to make him quit the game by telling him that he sucked every second of the match.

3rdly and lastly: Shut up, wheres my 50 bucks?
 

edgeswipe21

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hey guys how about rather than flaming bluedeath for nothing help me out eh....sounds good? thnx. Ur acting like me and brawl pro on stl threads keep this stuff for pms and ims. I need all the help i can get:laugh:
 

thebluedeath1000

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I didn't insult your intelligence, try reading, I complimented you, I said you were better than that.

And 2ndly, people like for me to do that, they say it gives them more to think about.

3rdly: nice on the 50 buck thing, i didn't see it coming but no soup for you till you shove my marth pride down my throat.

4th: Miggz, doodah is indeed good, and I respect him for that, but I'm not taking anyones mess, regardless.
 

Miggz

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hey guys how about rather than flaming bluedeath for nothing help me out eh....sounds good? thnx. Ur acting like me and brawl pro on stl threads keep this stuff for pms and ims. I need all the help i can get:laugh:
Ok, have yah seen any of my newest matches yet, edge? Just wondering. Then I may have a better understanding of what to say. But if not, its cool...I'll give yah advice either way. ^^;
 

edgeswipe21

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watchin em rite now, i'll edit latr. btw i m good in marth dittos an stuff its just space animals that give me trouble. and yes plz give me advice i always miss secret stuff in vids i've only recently noticing spacing n stuff bc i read about it but i've been watching vids for a while now.
 

thebluedeath1000

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Doodah is a good player, very good, don't get me wrong. I never insulted your playing ability like you did mine. : /

And you hate on your own ethnic group that hard usually?
 

edgeswipe21

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edge...my marth sux, play a better marth to find out if your good in dittos, and i'm about to watch doodah, and edit your post doodah before you get embarassed lol.
i played marths in genos smash fest owned em :D
 

edgeswipe21

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wow, whose, **** wish i played em, my space animals are pro rapists...
Don't say that...ne ways i wished i could have played deku's marth but he foxed me and i got 2 stocked :(...or was it 1...all i remember it was an intense fite. prolly bc all the exp i get from ur fox.
 

Miggz

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Ok edge...here comes some advice. ^^

Overall...I think you have what it takes to become a solid Marth in the near future. You just have to slow down a bit. To me, it was like you had to always be in aggressive combat. I admit I play somewhat aggressive, but I am a bit more accurate on certain follow ups, because I know what happens after I connect with a certain attack, on a certain character. Your tech chasing was pretty neat. But when you grab a Fox in the middle of the stage, chain grab the living daylights outa him until the late 20% percents, then follow up with up tilts and then F-Smash. If you grab Fox near the edge of the stage, just throw him off, even at 0%. Remember...in melee...its all about ring outs (edgeguarding), not KOs. ;)

Allow me to teach you a really simple edge guard with Marth against Fox. Ok so Fox is using his upB to come to the stage, if you have a hunch that it is going to hit you, use your counter. The counter will knock the Fox so low that he will have no choice but to use his Up B again to recover onto the stage. So while the Fox is still falling from your counter, jump after him. The second he stops himself with an Up B, swat him with your fair, then you use your Up B to grab the stage. Fox is dead. Pretty clever, huh? Oh and never use charged F-smashes. =P

Now as for your movement. The key is to first master l-canceling. You cancel some of your aerials, but you miss a few, but you'll get that, so no need to touch on that. Now I notice you roll a bit too much. After a SHFFL serial, instead of rolling away, use your wave dashing instead. Why? Because you can't attack out of a roll, plus it’s laggy. But an attack can be done out of a wave dash, and it has barely any lag. The last thing for movement is...what to do after a SHFFL fair. Marths main approaches are his dash dancing grabs, d-tilt, and SHFFL single fair. A void using the dash A as an approach, only use it for a follow up…most of the time anyway. Double fairs are mainly used as a follow up, after you connect with a grab or a single fair. So... if your SHFFL single fair hits a shield, you can dash behind your foe and grab him! Why? Because when Marths SHFFL single fair is cancelled, you can dash dance, or spot dodge right after it, before your foe can make a move on yah! Isn't Marth cool? And if your SHFFL misses all together, you can dash away; your foe will then make a move and miss, then dash back in with a grab! :D

Hope that helps...if yah have any questions, just ask me. Or leave me a comment on youtube, I like live there. lol. I'll subscribe yah youtube account; I hope you do the same for me. Take care!
 

thebluedeath1000

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Now that I caught was sarcasm...you used an lol.

I'd try the bair over the f-air after the counter, and the counter only works if they can't sweetspot..abit safer than timing attacks if you're having trouble with it.
 

edgeswipe21

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cool that edge guarding tip and throwing off tip really and the f air tip really helped me. thnx for subscribing i'll do the same.
 

thebluedeath1000

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Ledgehopped dair solves the problem in one swoop, no need for all that other mess.

Although the ledgehopped nair does do well because you force the other player to try and land onstage so they have to up-b higher (like falcon/ganon) then you can interrupt and punish.
 

edgeswipe21

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how about drop off edge counter up-b kill. Funnest way to kill imo i did it few times not on vids though.
 
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