Mario Combo Problem

[Bustcrawler]

hi, i´ve been watchin some mario combos but when i try to do them i just cant, for example when i do the Dair i cant do uair because mario ends almost in the floor and i dont have space or time to do the uair. like in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knc-9LXOrrw&feature=related

how do i remain in the air with the dair so i can do the uair in order to perform the combo

besides another tiny question how do i get off DK´s grab, yoshi´s egg and jiggly´s song

thanks


well thank you very much to everyone, i can do SHDL and full hop triple laser so i dont think it would be very difficult to perform this, but is it better to do the DAIR with the A button than with the r button? because i always do aerials with R so i can lag cancel easier, in this case what is more convenient, A or R?

 

[ballin4life]

The key is to do the dair as soon as possible after you start your jump. I do this by sliding my thumb from down c to a so that I start the dair immediately. Some people also do this by placing their thumb so that the tip is on left c while the base is on a and then you just rock your thumb. But anyway the key is to dair immediately after leaving the ground.

Also, if you are holding sideways when you jump, your jump will be slightly shorter than if you have the control stick neutral. However, you can do mario's dair uair in a short hop even if you are holding sideways and get the shorter jump.

To get out of DK's grab and the rest you just gotta mash buttons and smash different directions on the control stick (it's just total number of inputs). Not sure, but I think this also works when your shield is broken, although it usually isn't worth it because you will still be stunned for long enough that your opponent can do whatever they want.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Do your first aerial as soon as possible. This will give you more time to do the second aerial. As for the second aerial, you have to time it so that you perform the aerial after the first one ends, but before you hit the ground. Some people mash the A button for the second aerial. This means you don't have to time it, but you aren't guaranteed to get the second hit.

As for your other question, mash the control stick, mash buttons, etc. For dk's cargo grab (fthrow) and kirby's neutral b (suck), there is a short period of time where you can't do anything. For sing, broken shield, and yoshi's egg, you have immediate control of your character. This means you can mash into an off-stage falcon punch or similar, resulting in instant death. It may be a good idea for these three to just mash until right before you break out.

 

[asianaussie]

It's all about speed for aerials like Mario's. Button sliding helps. You have to initiate D-Air as soon as you jump (I hate doing this on the keyboard), then U-Air as soon as the spin finishes. Same goes for SHDL and full hop triple laser.

For the other one, mash buttons like a maniac. DK's grab and Jiggs' Sing should be mashed out ASAP. You might even prevent punishment. With Yoshi's egg, you can't get KBed, so waiting a bit until they're off guard can help, as you get immediate control in the air, allowing use of an aerial.

 

[Kefit]

I couldn't do Mario dair to uair short hop stuff for the longest time. Then one day I discovered that it is much easier to do using timing rather than simply trying to mash out the attacks as fast as you can. I practiced the timing for a few days (getting this down does take some dedicated practice) and now I can do them consistently.

I suggest practicing double short hop aerials Pikachu first, as his are much easier to do than Mario's. After you can consistently double uair on a short hop with Pika, try to do the same thing with Mario but speed it up a bit. The difference in speed required between the two is fairly substantial, but it should be easier than trying to jump straight into Mario dair-uairs.

 

[Daedatheus]

I couldn't do Mario dair to uair short hop stuff for the longest time. Then one day I discovered that it is much easier to do using timing rather than simply trying to mash out the attacks as fast as you can.

I agree with you, except do you know any player who does SHDLs on timing alone? I think that's the *one* thing too difficult to get the timing down for perfectly

Also OP remember that timing changes based on what you're hitting. If it's in the air, or if it's hitting your opponent, or hitting a shield, these things all change it.

 

[ballin4life]

Uh I never mash for SHDL the timing is easy. The important part is button sliding so your first laser comes out as soon as possible.

 

[Daedatheus]

Uh I never mash for SHDL the timing is easy. The important part is button sliding so your first laser comes out as soon as possible.

I stand corrected.
I'll have to try doing it with timing now...

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Yeah, shdl is MUCH easier without mashing.

As long as that first laser comes out at an identical timing to your jump, you can just hit b another time after the first laser.

Boomfan pointed out to me once that a good way to get your timing down on stuff like that in smash is to listen to the sound effects, audio is a big part of keeping your timing in smash for some people.

so listen for that first pew and press b right after

PEW PEW gg

 

[rpotts]

Yeah, shdl is MUCH easier without mashing.

As long as that first laser comes out at an identical timing to your jump, you can just hit b another time after the first laser.

Boomfan pointed out to me once that a good way to get your timing down on stuff like that in smash is to listen to the sound effects, audio is a big part of keeping your timing in smash for some people.

so listen for that first pew and press b right after

PEW PEW gg

Huh, i've heard about the timing it with the sound of the first laser but have never been able to pull it off. It is very easy to pull it off with mashing for me, as well as full hop triple and double jump quad. I do mash buttons pretty fast though, for me it helps if you try to spaz your fingers out.

 

[ballin4life]

Huh, i've heard about the timing it with the sound of the first laser but have never been able to pull it off. It is very easy to pull it off with mashing for me, as well as full hop triple and double jump quad. I do mash buttons pretty fast though, for me it helps if you try to spaz your fingers out.

Well if you listen to the rhythm of the lasers coming out (PEW PEW) you get the timing in your head, then just press b according to that rhythm. That's what I do at least.

 

[(blondekid)]

its funny cause my friend benito does it mashing. he does it so fast. i do timing by sliding