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Making the PERFECT game

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The Real Gamer

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I don't know why I just thought of this, but I was looking at the Mirror's edge thread and I just finished playing CoD4, then an idea popped up.

What if someone could combine the great movements of Mirror's Edge with fantastic gun play like in CoD4? I'm not kidding. Think about it. FPS's tend to have good gun play, but movement always suck a**.

Imagine running off walls while trying to snipe someone at the same time, or dodging bullets using back flips, cartwheels, etc. EVEN BETTER IDEA! How about doing a back flip off of a wall and shooting at someone while are upside down??? :D :D :D Just think Matrix but in game form, and done well.

I think my ideas are beyond the realm of possibility for now... BUT there WILL be a game this great in the future. Whoever releases a game like this first will change FPS's forever.

Am I onto something or am I crazy?

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In case anyone has never seen Mirror's Edge or Call of Duty 4 in action here's a link to show you.
CoD4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axug4bTJMJo (Couldn't really find a good video but picture being able to run on/off all the stuff on the map.)
Mirror's Edge- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acD6s4E3xso (Picture this but with a gun in your hand)
 

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CoD4 and Mirror's Edge weren't even that good. ME is a good start, but nothing special yet. CoD4 was ok.
 

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Aside from the misleading thread title (;)), I don't think combining the movement in Mirror's Edge with gunplay in COD4 would yield as "perfect" results as you may think.

Mirror's Edge is based on parkour, which entails constant movement whereas COD, being an FPS, requires you to shoot people. In other words, stop the constant flow and momentum Mirror's Edge is based upon. Using cartwheels, flips, etc. in order to dodge bullets sounds good in theory, but to do so within a first person perspective? :dizzy:
 

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Personally I think that the movement of Mirror's Edge is bad for an FPS. Getting stuck into an animation would just piss me off when trying to shoot, and the game would have to give me some reason for being able to do crazy acrobatics anyways. I'm perfectly fine with movement in CoD4.
 

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What if someone could combine the great movements of Mirror's Edge with fantastic gun play like in CoD4? I'm not kidding. Think about it. FPS's tend to have good gun play, but movement always suck a**.

Imagine running off walls while trying to snipe someone at the same time, or dodging bullets using back flips, cartwheels, etc. EVEN BETTER IDEA! How about doing a back flip off of a wall and shooting at someone while are upside down??? :D :D :D Just think Matrix but in game form, and done well.

I think my ideas are beyond the realm of possibility for now... BUT there WILL be a game this great in the future. Whoever releases a game like this first will change FPS's forever.

Am I onto something or am I crazy?

DISCUSS

You sir are onto nothing. You Perfectly discribed Gunz online.

Gunz online is a 3rd person shooter which uses Matrix like moves such as Wall running, Cartwheels, lunges and the works. Its your typical Wire-fu movie with guns.

Seriously if i didn't know what Mirror's Edge or Call of Duty 4 was i bet i would say "WTF YOU GUNZ COPIER. I BET YOU PLAY GUNZ AND DECIEDED TO COPY THEM AND MAKE YOUR SELF LOOK ORIGINAL!!11"
*ahem*
I played Gunz but it got boring. It doesn't get my heart beating and my head in tactical mode. Just run shoot and run away. That said this game wouldn't be perfect AND get boring REALLY FAST. LIKE KERPLUNK FAST.

Gunz online trailer with about every thing you said
 

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My idea of "a perfect game" is entirely different from yours. In fact, I usually loathe FPS's.
 

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Dude this is Gunz lol.... Darkslash hit it ..

And I dont like Fps's

my idea of a perfect game is an Rpg

hence why Paper mario is my favorite.
 

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Ok let me clarify a few things. When I said combining ME and CoD4, I didn't ACTUALLY mean implementing ME's movements into CoD4. What I was trying to get at was instead of the restricted movements that most FPS's have, you get more control of your character and what you can do.

I guess some of you guys aren't really using your imagination or something, cause none of you guys have even come close to convincing me as to why this is a bad idea.

Oh, and yes this imo, would be the PERFECT game. If some of you guys don't like FPS's or w/e then try to be so sensitive... Jeez. :\

Oh and by the way, watched the Gunz trailer, and it had the same concept yes, but it was near close to what I am picturing.
 

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Ok let me clarify a few things. When I said combining ME and CoD4, I didn't ACTUALLY mean implementing ME's movements into CoD4. What I was trying to get at was instead of the restricted movements that most FPS's have, you get more control of your character and what you can do.

I guess some of you guys aren't really using your imagination or something, cause none of you guys have even come close to convincing me as to why this is a bad idea.

Oh, and yes this imo, would be the PERFECT game. If some of you guys don't like FPS's or w/e then try to be so sensitive... Jeez. :\

Oh and by the way, watched the Gunz trailer, and it had the same concept yes, but it was near close to what I am picturing.
I know exactly what you picture, and yes, it's a great idea. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a game very similar to your idea within the next year, honestly. But again, while it's a great idea, it's just not my ideal "perfect game".
 

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All your idea is is incorprating parkour into an shooter, which is lame. There are MUCH better FPSes that CoD4, and there are much better ideas than this.

When you say "perfect" you imply that it is better than all other games ever.
 

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Indeed. As stated previously, your title is a little misleading as there is and never will be a "perfect" game. The term, in essence, is subjugated to whomever is playing it.

In any case, I think you'd do well to sit down and really contemplate what you're saying. Come back, and post more coherent thoughts. Look at the control styles of COD and Mirror's Edge, think of the different dynamics, and consider the perspective.

You say that:

none of you guys have even come close to convincing me as to why this is a bad idea.
But, other than Spire III, I don't think you've really convinced anyone that this is a good idea. :(
 

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All your idea is is incorprating parkour into an shooter, which is lame. There are MUCH better FPSes that CoD4, and there are much better ideas than this.

When you say "perfect" you imply that it is better than all other games ever.
Opinions are opinions are opinions are opinions.

With all respect what you might see as "lame" might be just the kind of game that someone else could be looking for. I don't know why but you don't seem that open minded.

Oh, and what do you think is a better shooter than CoD4? I'm not trying to argue, but I'm just interested in other people's opinions.
 

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All I've been playing lately and for the past months is Cod 4.

Halo 3 sucks balls, and gears 2 sucks online.
 

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Indeed. As stated previously, your title is a little misleading as there is and never will be a "perfect" game. The term, in essence, is subjugated to whomever is playing it.

In any case, I think you'd do well to sit down and really contemplate what you're saying. Come back, and post more coherent thoughts. Look at the control styles of COD and Mirror's Edge, think of the different dynamics, and consider the perspective.

You say that:



But, other than Spire III, I don't think you've really convinced anyone that this is a good idea. :(
Once again someone misses the point.

1.When I use the word perfect IT DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE. A game that's going to appeal to ALL gamers is 100% impossible.

2. For the last time I don't actually mean combining ME with CoD4. The 2 were both just used as examples of a game with good gun play, and a game with good movements. You sound like the idea of a FPS with good movement capabilities like in ME is impossible, but what may be impossible at the time being could be a fantastic idea in the future.

3. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm mostly trying to get people to get creative in ideas or what might even be a better idea for a "perfect" shooter. But so far I've gotten nothing but complaints like "ME sucks" or "CoD4 isn't the best shooter."

I swear some of you guys sound like you are on your periods (not you Mr x)
 

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It's all good man. I'll just say that I'm highly, HIGHLY skeptical and leave it at that. ;)
 

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Ok let me clarify a few things. When I said combining ME and CoD4, I didn't ACTUALLY mean implementing ME's movements into CoD4. What I was trying to get at was instead of the restricted movements that most FPS's have, you get more control of your character and what you can do.

I guess some of you guys aren't really using your imagination or something, cause none of you guys have even come close to convincing me as to why this is a bad idea.

Oh, and yes this imo, would be the PERFECT game. If some of you guys don't like FPS's or w/e then try to be so sensitive... Jeez. :\

Oh and by the way, watched the Gunz trailer, and it had the same concept yes, but it was near close to what I am picturing.
Play Gunz Online and come back. You'll see why this will never work. It gets boring real fast, becuase all people will do is run away. Besides the Perfect game is subjective to every one. Take Firus. To him the Perfect game is Super Metroid and he'll come in and say it is. While i say it isn't. All this is creating is a schism between gamers. The Perfect game would have to a future Legend of Zelda game though. Despite it being put into one genre, it has like around almost 10 of them
-RPG Elements(Quests and a hero role)
-First Person Shooter/3rd Person Shooter(sniping bulbins r awesome)
-Puzzle Solving(****ing water temple)
-Mini-games(fishing any one?)
-Adventure(I'm in your Hyrule, riding my epona)
-Stealth(think Wind Waker)
-Maze elements (****ing water temple)
-Platformer elements(clawshoting in the City in the sky seems alot like platforming)
-RTS elements(Run or fight and how to fight and your resources as well)
-Music(Left C, Up C, right C,left c,up c,Right C*any one who gets this knows their Zelda..Spire i'm looking at you :p*)

So the Legend of Zelda is a high candidate for the Perfect game as it has every thing almost every one is looking for....except for rabid fanboys who refuse to play it simply becuase its on a Nintendo platform :laugh:
 
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