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Moment of truth.

Does the idea of there being four separate Factions among the players sound at all like a good idea or just an unbalanced mess waiting to happen?
 
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Moment of truth.

Does the idea of there being four separate Factions among the players sound at all like a good idea or just an unbalanced mess waiting to happen?
I mean, isn't that what White's Game of Thrones thing is?

Only, y'know, with some deomocracy stuff?

But really, depends on how the roles are made.
 
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I mean, isn't that what White's Game of Thrones thing is?

Only, y'know, with some deomocracy stuff?

But really, depends on how the roles are made.
It's not like White's.

Each player is part of a certain Faction and each Faction has its own goals.
Two Factions are Town-aligned, but don't necessarily share the same allegiance depending on the players/roles.
One Faction is Mafia-aligned with obvious allegiance to each other.
The last Faction is made up of 3rd Parties who each have individual goals and for the most part only have allegiance to themselves, but could get mutual benefit from helping each other out.
 
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It's not like White's.

Each player is part of a certain Faction and each Faction has its own goals.
Two Factions are Town-aligned, but don't necessarily share the same allegiance depending on the players/roles.
One Faction is Mafia-aligned with obvious allegiance to each other.
The last Faction is made up of 3rd Parties who each have individual goals and for the most part only have allegiance to themselves, but could get mutual benefit from helping each other out.
The idea sounds really great on paper.

But in the end, the number of factions isn't what causes a game to be unbalanced or not.

It's what the roles are and how they can interact with each other.
 
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So I have one perspective.

Anyone else have one to give? Whether they feel the same or different?

I seriously want to know what people think before I even fathom going through with it now.
 
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Moment of truth.

Does the idea of there being four separate Factions among the players sound at all like a good idea or just an unbalanced mess waiting to happen?
Only one way to find out!
It's not like White's.

Each player is part of a certain Faction and each Faction has its own goals.
Two Factions are Town-aligned, but don't necessarily share the same allegiance depending on the players/roles.
One Faction is Mafia-aligned with obvious allegiance to each other.
The last Faction is made up of 3rd Parties who each have individual goals and for the most part only have allegiance to themselves, but could get mutual benefit from helping each other out.
The last part was something I actually wanted to do with a Fate FFA(and I might repurpose Zeb's game into that).
Basically, it would be a FFA with a mix of survivors and those with unique goals who would leave Town after they're fulfilled. Game would end when two or less players remained.
The idea was to have players forge their own alliances with other survivors to make to the end, help those that can leave the Town for speeding up the game and/or to eliminate possible threats.
 
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Only one way to find out!
....I would rather not "find out" after the fact, honestly.
The last thing I want is to try out a unique concept meant to spice things up from the normal formula, only for it to turn out to be absolute garbage.

The last part was something I actually wanted to do with a Fate FFA(and I might repurpose Zeb's game into that).
Basically, it would be a FFA with a mix of survivors and those with unique goals who would leave Town after they're fulfilled. Game would end when two or less players remained.
The idea was to have players forge their own alliances with other survivors to make to the end, help those that can leave the Town for speeding up the game and/or to eliminate possible threats.
That sounds like it has potential to be fun. Shame it's more Fate. :troll:
 
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....I would rather not "find out" after the fact, honestly.
The last thing I want is to try out a unique concept meant to spice things up from the normal formula, only for it to turn out to be absolute garbage.
No but really, the only way to find out if it's a good idea is to put it in play. Maybe it's an unbalaced mess maybe it isn't, maybe it's super fun maybe it isn't, we'll only know when we try it.
 

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....I would rather not "find out" after the fact, honestly.
The last thing I want is to try out a unique concept meant to spice things up from the normal formula, only for it to turn out to be absolute garbage.

Functionally, I'd wonder how the two town factions are distinguished.

If the mafia is against the whole town, it doesn't matter if they take out someone from Town A or Town B, it's all the same to them.

A similar thing from the town's perspective. If I have both the Mafia and Town B against me, that's just more enemies to deal with, and generally increases the odds that whoever got lynched wouldn't be my ally.
 
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You can't say that when you haven't even hosted a Mafia game yet.
.....I was the co-host to this last one. :/

And I have hosted games in the past.
 
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Golden, message me the roles for this idea of yours and I'll attempt to give my perspective. Otherwise, with this perspective, I can't add very much.
 
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.....I was the co-host to this last one. :/

And I have hosted games in the past.
I mean, co-hosting and hosting are different things.
Still, just give it a try, no reason to beat yourself over things that haven't happened yet.
 

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I mean, co-hosting and hosting are different things.
Still, just give it a try, no reason to beat yourself over things that haven't happened yet.
They are, but since host and co-host need to work together to make things work, he gets to be aware of the hosting side.

Also...

And I have hosted games in the past.
Shoe confirmed to not read :troll:
 
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Golden, message me the roles for this idea of yours and I'll attempt to give my perspective. Otherwise, with this perspective, I can't add very much.
Haven't had time to actually finalize anything (and also haven't really put that much effort into doing so since the game is far ahead in the queue), so I can't really give anything of value as usual.
 

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so I can't really give anything of value as usual.
***** we have more to offer than we could ever possibly know, and if we mope around like we're useless we cut our ability to reach even a fraction of that potential down to almost nothing, so quit it. I have an incredibly well deserved low self-esteem, but I compensate by also being a huge ass narcissist. I'm a man child but **** you I'm better than all of ya combined.

You aren't even a quarter as useless as you think you are, and we don't even think a quarter of that level of uselessness of you any time you pity yourself. And really you don't believe it yourself, because each time you get down, you get back up again because you remember "Oh right, not everything is a total **** up or even as bad as I imagined."

When you grow a pair, send me a PM and we'll work together to make something that can draw out some of that untapped potential out of the people here and by extension ourselves.
 

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I'm a man child but **** you I'm better than all of ya combined.
How humble. Then again...

a huge *** narcissist
I call bias :p

But anyway...

You aren't even a quarter as useless as you think you are, and we don't even think a quarter of that level of uselessness of you any time you pity yourself. And really you don't believe it yourself, because each time you get down, you get back up again because you remember "Oh right, not everything is a total **** up or even as bad as I imagined."
That part of the post is what earned the like.

Holder's right, Goldie. You're much greater than you think.

Probably one of the funniest people I've ever had the chance of meeting too, and a good friend too.

Beating yourself up for the unbalances of the previous game? Not exactly the best thing to do, but also not unjustified.

But that doesn't make you useless. The mere fact that you did everything you could to help Polly in his game is proof of that.

I mean, imagine if he was alone. Could've been another Animafia.
 
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Functionally, I'd wonder how the two town factions are distinguished.

If the mafia is against the whole town, it doesn't matter if they take out someone from Town A or Town B, it's all the same to them.

A similar thing from the town's perspective. If I have both the Mafia and Town B against me, that's just more enemies to deal with, and generally increases the odds that whoever got lynched wouldn't be my ally.
Basically, Town A and Town B both have a common enemy in the Mafia and in some of the 3rd Parties.
But some members of Town A want certain members of Town B dead as well and vice-versa.

In the context of the theme, Town A would be the Earth Defenders, who don't care much about humanity and only care about threats to their home turf and themselves, which to some can include members of Town B. Town B would be the Global Defense Force, which were created specifically to defend humanity from threats, which can include certain members of Town A.
 

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Put me down as a potential Death Note game. Haven't figured it out yet but if I don't say something now it probably won't ever happen lol.
 

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It's not like White's.

Each player is part of a certain Faction and each Faction has its own goals.
Two Factions are Town-aligned, but don't necessarily share the same allegiance depending on the players/roles.
One Faction is Mafia-aligned with obvious allegiance to each other.
The last Faction is made up of 3rd Parties who each have individual goals and for the most part only have allegiance to themselves, but could get mutual benefit from helping each other out.
i like it i like it~ to be honest mafia gets more exciting when theres more than 2 aligned groups on out there vying each other

of course gotta make sure it gets balanced so one group doesn't dominate, or whats more likely to happen one group just gets absolute crushed

though i do like the idea a lot~ especially with a lotta randomness in the fact as in who town is part of which town exactly? could craft some crazy scenarios there~
 
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I should clarify that it's less like there's a full Town A and a full Town B and more like they are all Town, just a select few are part of a different team that the "main" Townies are iffy about.
 

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i like it, means town has to worry about infighting on top of the actual threat

though if you were to balance it, gotta make town rather powerful

threats from infighting, mafia, and third parties will take a lot out of them
 
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***** we have more to offer than we could ever possibly know, and if we mope around like we're useless we cut our ability to reach even a fraction of that potential down to almost nothing, so quit it. I have an incredibly well deserved low self-esteem, but I compensate by also being a huge *** narcissist. I'm a man child but **** you I'm better than all of ya combined.
This is where you and I are different.
You are able to pull off such an attitude of self-glorification. I'm not. It's simply not in my nature. The most I can do is act like I'm fine and push the negative thoughts of myself to the back of my mind while focusing on something else.

You aren't even a quarter as useless as you think you are, and we don't even think a quarter of that level of uselessness of you any time you pity yourself. And really you don't believe it yourself, because each time you get down, you get back up again because you remember "Oh right, not everything is a total **** up or even as bad as I imagined."
That's not why I get back up. I get back up because that's what is expected of me. I have to be strong for the sake of others. Even if it slowly kills me inside.

And yet it's a vicious cycle since it's the idea of disappointing/failing others that hurts the most.

When you grow a pair, send me a PM and we'll work together to make something that can draw out some of that untapped potential out of the people here and by extension ourselves.
If by "when I grow a pair", you mean "when I don't have important life obligations getting in the way to be able to draft some role/concept ideas", sure.

That part of the post is what earned the like.

Holder's right, Goldie. You're much greater than you think.

Probably one of the funniest people I've ever had the chance of meeting too, and a good friend too.
Even when I'm being an ass? :V

Beating yourself up for the unbalances of the previous game? Not exactly the best thing to do, but also not unjustified.

But that doesn't make you useless. The mere fact that you did everything you could to help Polly in his game is proof of that.

I mean, imagine if he was alone. Could've been another Animafia.
.....I guess you have a point there. Having a second pair of eyes to help keep track was something useful....
 

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Even when I'm being an ***? :V
You're **** when you're ass :troll:

.....I guess you have a point there. Having a second pair of eyes to help keep track was something useful....
My point exactly.

While the game still had some hiccups, you probably prevented some HUGE things by helping Polly out, especially since this was his first hosting experience.
 
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Knowing me, it will go horribly wrong no matter what I do. :/
This is where you and I are different.
You are able to pull off such an attitude of self-glorification. I'm not. It's simply not in my nature. The most I can do is act like I'm fine and push the negative thoughts of myself to the back of my mind while focusing on something else.



That's not why I get back up. I get back up because that's what is expected of me. I have to be strong for the sake of others. Even if it slowly kills me inside.

And yet it's a vicious cycle since it's the idea of disappointing/failing others that hurts the most.
 

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So I have one perspective.

Anyone else have one to give? Whether they feel the same or different?

I seriously want to know what people think before I even fathom going through with it now.
Great idea. The two towns need s clear difference in goals and maybe theme too.
 
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Apollo's game is over. Mafia won and mark that.
Also are you going to do your villain mafia right now, because the Game of Thrones one seems to have a delay or lack of player problem.
 

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I guess I'll start getting my Villains mafia ready.
 

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While I was prepping myself by reading the every page of the wiki twice over, I may have had an idea or two for a spin on the game. Since the queue is so long, you should add me on now.
 

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Queue update when?

I'd totally do it if I had the power.

Not asking to be a group mod or anything though (though if I am, it'd literally only be for the queue :p)
 
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