Mafia Barhouse Sleepover: "Hey Town, drinks are on me!"

[Riddle]

Curious....Riddle, whats your purpose in just asking those 3 people questions? You have none for Mentos who has pretty much vanished?...and I think OS posted in haiku....once...Might want to go back and re-read instead of just skimming because OS has already said why he was voting Steel.

I'm not saying that os is doing those things I'm saying he wants to lynch based on those things. And os had no reasoning in his vote for steel that I can see. Also I had totally forgot mentos was even in this game. Mentos the same questions I asked nix go to you.

In your first post you mentioned I contributed a good bit and you had a town read....and now your saying i've only talked about replacements and "Stuff"? I was already suspicious of Meno and your recent posts makes it even more so.

You have stopped contributing and I would like to see more from you. I'm still getting a town read though.

And you didn't answer my questions

 

[~ Gheb ~]

And what would you like
To repeat about Steel?
All the same old things?

Prey tell, what are these "same old things" you are talking about? Do you remember everybody who is voting Steel and for what reasons? To me it feels more like you're taking the easy way out here by avoiding the direct mention of the issue with him. Once again, you do not comment on most of what's happening otherwise.

Also Gheb, what makes my post that you voted me for any different than your 299?

You accused Chibo of being hypocritical, I accuse Virg of playing poorly. The difference is more than obvious.

 

[Nix2100]

@Ronike - What did i misrepresent? And why in the world would you think Riddle is a easy lynch target? As far as I am aware only a few other people suspected Meno, and aside from the fact that I have only had suspicions about Meno doesn't really add up to a easy lynch target to me.

@Riddle - I've said it once or twice before but this game has spent way too much talking about stuff that in my opinion doesn't help us hunt scum at all. As for the Steel thing, I honestly have no thought towards it at the moment. Figured if we ever actually gotten around to lynching someone and it happened to be Steel I would take a closer look at him, until then I would let other people handle it.

 

[Rockin]

With 14 people, it takes 8 to lynch

Mentosman (1) - Riddle

Chibo (3) - Tom, KevinM, Junglefever

Menounderwater (1) - Nix

Steel (2) - Gheb, Overswarm

Overswarm (1) SummonerAU

SummonerAU (1) - Chibo

Virg (1) - Steel

Nix (1) - Ronike

Those not voting : Virg, Frozenflame, Mentosman

Deadline is June 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM

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Mentosman and Junglefever have been prodded

 

[Riddle]

Okay then, Nix. Who (other than me) WOULD you like to lynch if you dont want to lynch Steel.

 

[Nix2100]

Said i was suspicious of you =P Didn't mention any lynching yet...but I suppose I am leaning towards Chibo or Mentos.....

Unvote
Since you know...Meno isn't in the game anymore

 

[Riddle]

Yeah by who you wanted to lynch I meant who you were suspicious of. I'm fairly sure I know why you want to lynch mentis (inactivity) but why chibo? Care to elaborate?

 

[mentosman8]

So, first of all, sorry I've dropped off the table so much the past few days. One of my fellow managers at work got fired a few days ago, so since then I've both had to work more, and constantly worry about if I was going to be transferred when a new upper-end manager got sent to us, so I haven't been all here. Luckily things are decided and so my mind is enough at ease I can concentrate again(also, before anyone mentions it, I posted more in DBZ because it's later game and I felt it more necessary to try to keep up with the later/larger game.)

Riddle: @ your question, I'm not sure how I feel about the Steel wagon. Right now I think I would be most comfortable with Chibo, due to his play starting out different than normal then his immediate adjustment of play upon being called out on it.

Other than those two, I really don't have any noteable reads on anyone(at least, no leaning-scum reads, do have a couple of townie reads). If anyone has any specific things they want me to comment on, go ahead and ask, it may help me get my thoughts moving a bit better to have something to analyze particularly.

 

[Virgilijus]

Prey tell, what are these "same old things" you are talking about? Do you remember everybody who is voting Steel and for what reasons? To me it feels more like you're taking the easy way out here by avoiding the direct mention of the issue with him. Once again, you do not comment on most of what's happening otherwise.

Well, Gheb is voting me because i pointed out something about how chibo is playing without voting him , I think Overswarm is voting me because he wants me to post more (admittedly, i've had a hard time getting into the game thus far), and I don't even know why Kevin is voting me.

It kind of feels like
You think I'm not reading posts
Or am skating by

Anyways I say
Steel is suspect for his jump
On Tom; felt scummy

I posted before
I felt it was a desperate grab
A trivial 'ssue

But apparently
Because I am laconic
There was no content

Hopefully you see
My frustration in this scene
Of repetition

That you even know
My stance on Steel and Chibo
Shows I am playing

But then there's Mentos
Who is surprised no one called
His coasting out loud

And still you appear
Only content to blast me
For lack of content

At least I have asked
For him to speak up a bit
But I said before

I am no fore front;
I am the support until
I smell me some scum

 

[SummonerAU]

Sorry about the inactivity, 2 assignments in 2 days + a Sydney trip will do that. I don't really know much but I'll give the game a reread sometime before I go to bed tonight.

Scum, could you do something blatantly scummy just for me? Thanks in advance.

 

[KevinM]

Steel, the reason I am voting you is your stance on steel has contradicted itself since the beginning.

And the fact that you are trying to argue that it isn't suspicious that Chibo CHANGED his playstyle after you said he's playing different doesn't draw up any red flags to you.

IDK at this point I just feel if you're going to be wearing blinders, town or scum, you're of no use to us.

 

[Overswarm]

IDK at this point I just feel if you're going to be wearing blinders, town or scum, you're of no use to us.

When I say things like that people get angry. >:[

 

[Steel]

Anyways I say
Steel is suspect for his jump
On Tom; felt scummy

This is the second time you've said this and I still have no idea what you're talking about because I never jumped on Tom. Can you please point it out? Because at the moment yes I do feel like you ARE just skating by.

Steel, the reason I am voting you is your stance on steel has contradicted itself since the beginning.

And the fact that you are trying to argue that it isn't suspicious that Chibo CHANGED his playstyle after you said he's playing different doesn't draw up any red flags to you.

IDK at this point I just feel if you're going to be wearing blinders, town or scum, you're of no use to us.

You're basically disagreeing with me then. Why do you think his change in play style is scummy?

 

[Riddle]

Answer my questions please overswarm

 

[Overswarm]

Which ones? Link to the post. I haven't seen any questions you've asked that haven't already been answered by myself or someone else.

 

[Riddle]

Can't link because I'm on my zune but its post 317. And I don't care if someone or you have answered if before. I want you to answer it concisely in one post right now.

 

[Overswarm]

Overswarm - I see you posting a lot of things about various reasons for lynching. Inactivity, posting in haiku, statistical inaccuracies, but I haven't seen much actual scum-hunting from you. What is your criteria for lynching day 1? Why are you voting steel currently?

Criteria changes on the game and the players, as well as the type of game and amount of players.

I'm voting for Steel because I'd like to hear more from him.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Request Prod for Frozen, Jungle, Chibo and Tom.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Actually Chibo and Frozen are still within the time limit for prods I think but I'd still like a prod for them anyways. Chibo has been talked about a lot and Frozen hasn't said anything at all. Tom and Jungle also need to talk. That's like a third of the game not giving any input.

 

[CT Chia]

Back now, reading up so I can post

 

[CT Chia]

Meh, I've always been able to get a better read on you later ff (I.e if you survive to day 3, you're either mafia and there's no sk, or bulletproof). But seriously, easier to read you later, so I'm not worrying about you too much.

That being said, your thoughts on people would be nice, preferably Virg and os and Tom for me...

Not liking Ronike's view on FF here at all.

And I like FF's thoughts on Riddle's opening like the parts with wanting to more details on the shallow things Riddle brought up. For instance, I really didn't think of me as tunneling Ronike as all, and FF seems to think the same. People who saw that as such, are grasping at straws imo.

How about Chibo?
Mention how he's scatterbrained
Though I have before?

Scatterbrained? I don't think you've said this about me before per se, nor do I know exactly what it means. Going after various people? To me scatterbrained sounds the exact opposite of tunneling so clearly people have some conflicting views here. So I want to hear from you, what is scatterbrained, is it good or bad, and how does it pertain to me?

Just finished reading. Thoughts in a second

Chibo, the tunneling I was referring to was in reference to Ronike. I don't love how focussed on him you were for a good part of the beginning of the day. You seem to be playing slightly randomly and I don't particularly like it.

So you were done reading and thats what you got? Did you miss the bit between me and Tom? Surely you have to have some thought on the exchange of words between Kevin and I. I just don't see how you're still grasping onto the tunneling here (which someone else brought up much earlier, so my thoughts is that you saw and and are trying to roll with it thinking you have support). There's a lot on my game you're not commenting here, and it's making me wonder. So uhh... Thoughts on me vs Kevin and my change in style?

@Riddle - I've said it once or twice before but this game has spent way too much talking about stuff that in my opinion doesn't help us hunt scum at all.

This REALLY hasn't been the case in this game for a while.
...

...

Riddle: @ your question, I'm not sure how I feel about the Steel wagon. Right now I think I would be most comfortable with Chibo, due to his play starting out different than normal then his immediate adjustment of play upon being called out on it.

So playing better... isn't good for town? That is what you seem to believe according to this right?

 

[CT Chia]

With 14 people, it takes 8 to lynch

Mentosman (1) - Riddle

Chibo (3) - Tom, KevinM, Junglefever

Menounderwater (1) - Nix

Steel (2) - Gheb, Overswarm

Overswarm (1) SummonerAU

SummonerAU (1) - Chibo

Virg (1) - Steel

Nix (1) - Ronike

Those not voting : Virg, Frozenflame, Mentosman

Deadline is June 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM

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Mentosman and Junglefever have been prodded

I had to double check to make sure I wasn't mistaken, but yea Rockin, I'm not voting Summoner... what? lol

Also you should prob change Meno to Riddle. I'm currently voting Riddle.

 

[Riddle]

I mentioned that because I was questioned about it earlier. I don't really have anything to add about you and Kevin or your playstyle change. Its mostly all been said. You aren't even my number 1 suspect.

 

[mentosman8]

Chibo: Playing better isn't anti-town, but playing one way then right after someone says they notice you're playing differently and they're getting a bit of a scum vibe off it to immediately switch playstyles looks more like an "oh no" maneuver than a "I'm gonna play better" one. Not sure it's something worth voting you over, but it is something noticeable.

 

[CT Chia]

I wouldn't call my old play a scumtell, I'd call it not helping town.

 

[Overswarm]

This is a very confusing game.


We have two days, gentlemen.

 

[CT Chia]

The role of Meno/Riddle has done the least help imo. Partially in help to Meno's inactivity, and even though Riddle caught up fast, he had very little to comment on with a whole bunch of content leaving out a lot of important things imo just saying because other people already mentioned what he thought (but how are we supposed to know what he does and doesnt agree with?) and some of those topics are still being talked about.

 

[Riddle]

How am I less helpful than say, mentos? I say we lynch someone who has actually been scummy. At the risk of seeming like a wagoner i think steel seems to be the best target and with two days left we should move quickly if we want to get a lynch.

vote steel
For the reasons already provided by gheb

 

[CT Chia]

I agree with lynching someone that is scummy over unhelpful but I haven't gotten any solid scum reads yet on anyone in this game

 

[Steel]

So Riddle, instead of just piggybacking your way onto my wagon and saying "cus of what Gheb said" do you have any real input about why you think I'm scum? Gheb didn't even provide "reasonS," all he said was I should have voted chibo in my 192. Do you think I'm scum because of that?

Overswarm what more would you like to hear from me? If you have any questions then ask away.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

How am I less helpful than say, mentos? I say we lynch someone who has actually been scummy. At the risk of seeming like a wagoner i think steel seems to be the best target and with two days left we should move quickly if we want to get a lynch.

vote steel
For the reasons already provided by gheb

What? At risk of looking like a wagoner? you couldn't look more like a wagoner here if you tried. You basically said "I'm not wagoning, but I'm going to vote Steel because of what someone else said and i want to lynch someone today"

doesn't sit well with me

FoS: Riddle

 

[Overswarm]

Overswarm what more would you like to hear from me? If you have any questions then ask away.

Just want to hear more from you in general. Like I said, I dislike your style. It's too common for good townies and good mafia, and they generally last til the end and make lylo a coin flip. I prefer for people to have more posts we can look back on.

 

[Tom]

Steel, the reason I am voting you is your stance on steel has contradicted itself since the beginning.

this doesn't make any sense




will lynch chibo sempai, steel out of disagreement

will lynch nix, summoner, junglefever out of disappointment

would probably lynch overswarm too

 

[Rockin]

With 14 people, it takes 8 to lynch

Chibo (3) - Tom, KevinM, Junglefever

Steel (3) - Gheb, Overswarm, Riddle

Overswarm (1) SummonerAU

SummonerAU (1) - Chibo

Virg (1) - Steel

Nix (1) - Ronike

Those not voting : Virg, Frozenflame, Mentosman, Nix

Deadline is June 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM

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Chibo - Remember, you have to unvote in order to vote again (I slightly effed up on the rule in terms of that, and has been fixed on the front page). So...yeah lol

 

[CT Chia]

Unvote Vote Riddle

 

[Rockin]

Unvote Vote Riddle

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote Vote Junglefever
FoS Riddle

will lynch nix, summoner, junglefever out of disappointment

You are not dissapointed by Mentosman and Frozen?

 

[KevinM]

this doesn't make any sense




will lynch chibo sempai, steel out of disagreement

will lynch nix, summoner, junglefever out of disappointment

would probably lynch overswarm too

YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE

But seriously my point is YES it is extremely scummy for someone to have their playstyle pointed out as different then when they normally play as town, and then they switch it to have it more closely emulate them playing as town.

Also nice .hack avatar Tom, don't make me bring back my old one again.

 

[CT Chia]

my normal play as town? have u seen me in my recent games? iv been awful. ff6 mafia is a perfect example where I was a lazy did nothing townie.

 

[Virgilijus]

I don't understand
What you are trying to do
With the post above

You are saying that
Your normal play is just bad
And as town you sucked.

It feels to me
Like appeal to emotion
To keep you around

Don't like it, Chibo
Need better defense when
In the scum hot seat