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Lucas replacing Ness?

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I would like Ness in, but if Lucas plays similarly to him then I would still care cuz I play him cauxe he's my favorite video game character. Jeff has a pretty good chance if they drop Ness cuz he was one of the most requested characters. I wouldn't be suprised if the mother series has 3 reps from looking at its places in the character polls.
I don't think Jeff could get in if Ness is out. Since MOTHER 1 doesn't have a chance in getting a rep in that case, MOTHER 3 characters are the only ones eligible.
 

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I want MOTHER 3 characters for obvious reasons. Unfortunately, I can't feel what some of the pro-Ness people are feeling.
 

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Sakurai is obviously bringing back some of the things from the 64 version, so we can expect him back, AND one of the best characters for Brawl. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need a new pair of pants...
 

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We can't expect him back. Whether we like it or not, we must accept the possibility that Ness won't return and that Lucas has succeeded him.
 

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That may happen but don't count on it.
 

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Yah, but your taking it so seriously. There is not enough proof for either side of the arguement.
Lol it doesn't matter, debates are people trying to prove that they know more than the other :], so even though there's enough proof, people will just keep on adding up more and more proof lol.
 

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when i got my gamepro magazine on monday it said in it, and i quote:

"As for that last kid shown below? He's Lucas, from Mother 3, a Japan only RPG (think of him as the new ness)."

since the whole 12 are coming back this might just explain that he will become better than ness thus making him the new one....i think....
 

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It's never been stated that all of the original twelve will return. That came from a rumor that got too big.
 

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There's no proof that Lucas is replacing Ness. There are no images that show he has Ness' moves so yeaa, I'm pretty sure Ness will come back (although I don't personally care :])
 

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I don't think he's gonna replace Ness, there's no reason for this, and his attacks seens a little different than Ness'
 

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Dumb argument is dumb.
no your dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 ur all pooopy mouths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Im just kidding. We can dissagree, but this isn't the place to do it. It is off topic and I shouldn't have brought up Jiggly in a lucas thread.

back to topic

I don't think that Lucas will replace Ness because so far it doesn't look like they have the same moveset. And because Ness was amazing.
 

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no your dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 ur all pooopy mouths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Im just kidding. We can dissagree, but this isn't the place to do it. It is off topic and I shouldn't have brought up Jiggly in a lucas thread.

back to topic

I don't think that Lucas will replace Ness because so far it doesn't look like they have the same moveset. And because Ness was amazing.
Well after today's update I'd have to say your wrong pass the syrup. I'm sorry.:(
 

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I'm pretty convinced now, people.

"There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users."

Lol, Parkour.
 

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I'm pretty convinced now, people.

"There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users."
That language certainly does not mean Ness will not be in Brawl. That statement just means that there is a known character from Smash Bros. who has been a part of the series up to this point. That does not say that Ness will no longer be in Smash Bros.

However, I will say that the wording does not improve Ness' chance of being in Brawl. I think Lucas is becoming another Luigi type of character. Not really a true clone of Ness, but very similar. Just like Luigi is not really a clone character of Mario, but he is very similar.
 

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Lucas doesn't seem similar, he actually seems to have a larger array of attacks. A snake that can ledge grab? PK Ice and PK Thunder? Not to mention his original recovery and shield. He just all in general seems better then Ness. Most likely he will not show.
 

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What annoys me is that some ofthose didn't become his Special attacks. I can't believe just like that Ness is tossed aside.
 

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He isnt tossed aside, hes just in critical condition.

Even though its lame how they didnt even use PK Ground or anything.


Sigh.
If Ness is out, I guess I'll have to deal with that. However, I did see the whole Tether thing coming with EB characters having highly abusable recoveries. Perhaps a wall-jump?

Man. I really didnt need the suckass PK-Thunder again. Seriously.
 

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Lucas doesn't seem similar, he actually seems to have a larger array of attacks. A snake that can ledge grab? PK Ice and PK Thunder? Not to mention his original recovery and shield. He just all in general seems better then Ness. Most likely he will not show.
Note that he has three of Ness' Special moves, though.
 

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Notice how PK Fire and PK Freeze is completely different.

For all we know Ness could get an entire new moveset for his B moves.


I'd say I told ya so.
PK Fire just flies horizontally in the air and PK Freeze is just a PK Flash that freezes.

Lucas is looking better than Ness, and for that reason I'm glad he's out.
 

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He isnt tossed aside, hes just in critical condition.

Even though its lame how they didnt even use PK Ground or anything.


Sigh.
If Ness is out, I guess I'll have to deal with that. However, I did see the whole Tether thing coming with EB characters having highly abusable recoveries. Perhaps a wall-jump?

Man. I really didnt need the suckass PK-Thunder again. Seriously.
"There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users."

It's sad but it's true. :(
 

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*head-to-computer monitor* What did I do wrong sakurai? I'm so confused though, why show all of these random moves like his grab and down smash, which are all almost different and then- BAM, 3/4 of Ness' original moves... not to mention his even more so cryptic message...\

"There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

But Lucas’s physical combat style is quite different. By which I mean, he does not have the same standard moves."
It says "up until now", I think we just have to move on, imagining that Ness had some character growth and highlights and a not completely horrible down smash. Wait, did he just say that his back air is a meteor?? Lucas is gonna be so awesome... Sorry Ness fans, just trying to distract myself from the fact my mains pretty much dead... Buried in some ditch in Delfino Plaza next to Jimmy Hoffa...
 

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Another thing this confirms is that PK moves are not executed in a specified way. It's like Tae Kwon Do and Kung Fu, both use the body to fight but in different ways. Claus, for all we know, may use a badass lightning strike.
 

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Sorry dude, it looks like Ness is as good as gone.
I just hope PK Ground will still be incorporated.
 

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*head-to-computer monitor* What did I do wrong sakurai? I'm so confused though, why show all of these random moves like his grab and down smash, which are all almost different and then- BAM, 3/4 of Ness' original moves... not to mention his even more so cryptic message...\

"There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

But Lucas’s physical combat style is quite different. By which I mean, he does not have the same standard moves."
It says "up until now", I think we just have to move on, imagining that Ness had some character growth and highlights and a not completely horrible down smash. Wait, did he just say that his back air is a meteor?? Lucas is gonna be so awesome... Sorry Ness fans, just trying to distract myself from the fact my mains pretty much dead... Buried in some ditch in Delfino Plaza next to Jimmy Hoffa...
Actually he said the finish of his back air, so it might need to be sweetspotted.
 

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ell,. this should hopefully put an end to all those arguments. Hopefully, Lucas still has Ness's awesome DJC game but with news of DJC supposedly being removed, I don't see that happening. :(
 

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If Ness do come back he is getting some new moves, but i think he is coming back
 

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OMG! THE ARGUMENTS STILL CONTINUE! Lucas has replaced Ness. Please get over it.

If Ness comes back, he'll be an alt costume.
 
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