T-Donor66
Purple Prizes
NO BIAS PLEASE! Also please do not vote if you do not know much about Lucas. Thank you.
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Neither basically means both. If he received an equal amounts of buffs and nerfs, then he was neither buffed or nerfed.Where's both as a option?
Not really, neither would mean doing nothing.Neither basically means both. If he received an equal amounts of buffs and nerfs, then he was neither buffed or nerfed.
Oh, I've understood it after his response but neither isn't the correct word for it because it would mean none of the above.OP is talking net amount of changes - the overall results.
I absolutely agree better wording could've avoided this confusion, and that's why I spoke up so hopefully OP got the hint (if they really care for the quality of his/her own thread).Oh, I've understood it after his response but neither isn't the correct word for it because it would mean none of the above.
Excuse me? Are you guys aware you can't edit polls? Do not accuse me of not caring for the quality of my thread when I can't fix a little detail that no one cares about expect you two.I absolutely agree better wording could've avoided this confusion, and that's why I spoke up so hopefully OP got the hint (if they really care for the quality of his/her own thread).
My wording is fine. Please stop talking about it. Everyone else who voted knows what I meant. Just quit caring about it.No no, I wasn't accusing you of being careless. I spoke up to bring the wording to attention.
And no, I wasn't aware the polls on this board could not be edited. That's too bad.
uair hitbox already cries, no more nerfs pls.I suppose there's always going to be high tier and low tier characters, but Lucas could honestly do with some buffs while retaining his unique playstyle. He has a glaring weakness in his inability to kill even at mid percents outside of advertised moves coupled with combos that do unimpressive damage. Like honestly, you can string all the n-airs you want, but pretty much every other character could do the same damage with less effort and more return. I'm not going to hope for Brawl Lucas damage (can you imagine 17% n-airs and 20% d-airs in this game?), but at least make the low reach aerials a bit more rewarding to land.
It's also pretty clear they tried to balance out Lucas' throws with his terrible grab. For all the disadvantages carried by a tether, at least make it so that it outranges some of the sword characters moves. I see you stretching when you reach for that ledge, Rope Snake, why can't you stretch a bit more for the grab? It narrows down kill options even more.
Or maybe there are people who're struggling against Lucas and think the fat-headed blond kid should be nerfed even more. I don't know. Perspective.
Dsmash if shielded won't hit again, so if they shield it they can punish without getting hit by the next 2 hits.Lucas has no problem killing; his f-smash is deceptively fast and powerful, and his d-smash has a huge hitboxes.
But he needs buffs to compete with Ness.
• 50% bigger hitboxes on up-air, nair, dair and fair
• Slightly better shield damage on nair and dair
• Slightly faster falling speed
• More hitstun on dtilt
• Autocancel fair, nair and dair (if last hit doesn't come out, like Kirby's)
• PK less start up lag
It's good, but it's not the GOATIn my opinion, I would say buffed. He has lots of combo potential in this game.
I agree he does have good combo potential however he has no damage with it. Characters will hit you with a few moves and probably catch up on damage you did with your super fancy combo.In my opinion, I would say buffed. He has lots of combo potential in this game.
He has a completely superior kill game in contrast to Brawl, which is every throw but down throw, f-smash (still very, very good and FAST), sweetspot fair (still disjointed) and great meteor smashes that can trick opponents due to low landing lag (on bair anyway).I might be one of the few who thinks he's been nerfed. I'm actually enjoying Lucas less than I did in Brawl.
- F-Smash has WAY less Knockback.
- Oh god the Grabs (even pivot ones) are horrendous (weren't tether grabs supposed to be less laggy compared to Brawl?)
- D-Tilt doesn't trip anymore (or at least there's an odd hitbox for it to do so).
- Fair has more lag and isn't safe on shield anymore.
- Nair hits only 6 times (unsure about the damage output).
- Hitbox on Uair is SO BAD (I don't get why it doesn't hit in the front like Ness).
- PK Freeze has to be released to explode on ground level (before it didn't).
- Magnet Pull & Zap Jump are gone (I thought the latter would at least still be in since Ness can still PK Jump) .
- His throws aren't as strong as they once were (but I get D-Throw is meant for combos).
- F-Tilt decreased Knockback even on sweetspot (to be fair I feel like most F-Tilts were since pivot F-Tils are possible now lol, look at Ness', Peach's and I think Ike's which could KO decently in Brawl)
- Magnet can't absorb from behind anymore. :/
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I might just be looking into this too much and overlooking his potential though. =P