LoZ Fighting Game

[Brawlmatt202]

Is THIS the right forum?

It came to me while I was over on Smash World Forums. Why not make a fighting game, only with LoZ character? It seems perfectly reasonalbe to me! Who else likes this idea?

I already have a good group of characters to be in it:

Link (of course)

Zelda (only the titular character of the entire series!)

Sheik (this time seperate from Zelda)

Ganondorf (major bad guy, a-DUUUUH!)

*SPOILERS WARNING*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Ganondorf_twilight.jpg

Young Link (I'm gonn keep commenting, you know.)

Tingle (he's been in a lot of Zelda games, so I figure, why not?)

Vaati (second major bad guy)

Skull Kid (pretty popular, and another major bad guy)

Minda (also popular, and important character in TP)

Dark Link (He's been in a few games, and he's Link's opposite)

Too big to post, so here's a link:
http://www.isstavanger.no/middle/Class Pages/VaughtWebExploratory/JValentinetti/darklink5yr.gif

Impa (you choose which one)

Picture pending...

Darunia (pretty strong, right?)

Agahnim (remember him?)

Koume & Kotake (Ganon's loyal servants)

So... What do you think of the line-up?

Also, if you could add another character, which one would it be?

Personally, I'd go with Ralph, since he's such an awesome character.

I'd also like to see, among other character, The Old Man! Why? He's retro!

Comments? Critics? (try not to be too hard)

 

[valtiel]

Hmmmm sounds interesting but I think it be to out of place for the Zelda series.

 

[Mediocre]

You know, this is going to be a dumb idea no matter which forum you post it in.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

You know, this is going to be a dumb idea no matter which forum you post it in.

I know SOME people like the idea. I just have to wait until they post here.

 

[Cupcakes]

I don't think any one's gonna post and say they like it. I really don't.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

I don't think any one's gonna post and say they like it. I really don't.

That's because you haven't posted on the right thread. I happen to know quite a few people who said they loved the idea!

 

[Johnknight1]

That a pretty unique idea, but would it be 2d or 3d? O, and I love that pic of Dark Link, lol! Like a cross of Dark Sidious and Link....works I guess. Wouldn't it also have Young Zelda (OOT, or TWW), or even Tetra? . I wonder, would it be 2d or 3d, it driving me mad, and will it have a targeting/lock on system like in OOT, MM, TWW, and TP either way? The Four Swords Adventures multiplayer was pretty randomly fun, but this on the Wii could and would be like a cooler jedi simulation, if done right!

Other good characters would be: (other than Iron knuckles, and Darknuts) Ganon, and would he be the classic (LOZ, Zelda II, ALTTP, OoA, OoS, FSA Ganon), or the 3d like Ganon (OOT, TP)? Also Link's uncle in ALTTP, Fado in OOT, and even Goron, Deku, and Zora Link in MM. Lol, Fiercy Diety Link would be too much, and I wonder if cel-shaded Link would be his own character?! Four Swords and Pickory Sword Link would be needed, as well as classic Magical Sword Link. Zant would be neat, as well as Midna in her normal form, and Wolf Link w/t Midna. You might want to consider some of these characters. It a good idea, but you might want to expand upon it, gameplay, 2d or 3d, targeting, etc.

 

[Sandy]

There's a reason for Brawl being made.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

There's a reason for Brawl being made.

Yeah, for Nintendo Superstars to duke it out!

But this is for LoZ characters only.

 

[Numa Dude]

It would be cool only if the Happy mask salesman was in it.

 

[Mestro]

Yes! a LoZ Fighting game would totally rock! But there are missing char like Zora, MMLink, WWLink, The PostMan (LOL), etc.

Zelda is why I play SSB Series, So, A LoZ Smash fighting game isn't a bad idea.

I recommend you to update the images with the ideas of characters given here. I made some.

 

[Eight Sage]

Yes! a LoZ Fighting game would totally rock! But there are missing char like Zora, MMLink, WWLink, The PostMan (LOL), etc.

Zelda is why I play SSB Series, So, A LoZ Smash fighting game isn't a bad idea.

I recommend you to update the images with the ideas of characters given here. I made some.

Awesome! I like the idea! Also, I would like to see Gerudo Guards, Phantom Ganon and Link's Uncle! If I want another, I'll post it here.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think any one's gonna post and say they like it. I really don't.

WRONG.

I do, and not just because of the last guy. Brawl is a brawling game yes, but this game could be as different from it as Soul Calibur.

In fact, I think I'd prefer that, using a lot of wii control moves and combinations for SC gameplay. As well as a good storyline.

Oh yes, Fado ftw.

 

[Crimson King]

It's not practical. Why spend the money creating another first party fighting game to compete with another first party fighting game? Some people will be totally turned off by the new system it'd have to include, others would prefer it and you'd see people stop playing SSB in favor of that. Most people wouldn't buy both if they wish to be competitive.

This is why Everquest 2 was such a bad idea by SOE. The game was pretty different from Everquest and, by fault, attracted most of its fanbase there to play that instead. Everquest could have grown continuously had EQ2 been different enough, but instead they split their own customers.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

See, I knew there were people out there who liked the idea.

Also, I was going to make a poll out of this, but then I found out I actually had to pay for it.

But I'm hearing ideas that I didn't originally have, so maybe it's better that way.

 

[Stryks]

This is actualyl an idea a guy from IGN (I believe matt) came up with, a long time ago tough, I like the idea, I can c this game being SC-style, bringing weapons, fighting style, magic and (in the case of tingle) humor to the battlefield, I actually like the idea, bringing something totally unexpected and may actually be nintendos next great fighting game...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I thought of a similar idea too. Most of the characters mentioned were in it(and of course, a fair ammount of generic enemies, but only certain ones). Basically, there was 3 ways to play. Overhead View(1-D Mode), Side-Scrolling(2-D Mode), and 3-D(3-D Mode) were the ways. Characters have different moves depending the mode, and, of course, some characters are better depending which mode they are on. Funny tiers, no?

For story mode, you started off by playing Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf. By going through the modes, you can unlock Young Link, Sheik, and then Ganon. Those will then allow you to unlock Fierce Deity Link, Tetra, and Phantom Ganon.

Here's an example using Phantom Ganon's design for all 3 Modes. In 1-D, he simply can move similar to an Action RPG centaur for the most part, and in this mode, buttons are more simplistic ala SSB. In 2-D, he is similar to the Iron Knuckle Rider boss(I forgot the correct name) in Zelda II for most of his movements. Of course, when his HP is half-way down, he's forced to fight like normal. In 3-D, he can either be on the ground and fight similar to a sword-style Link(so to speak), or be floating with less options, but versatality. Of course, this is just a basic idea.

To simply explain story mode, the selected character goes through levels and has boss fights against respective enemies and sometimes rivals.(like Link VS Ganon, etc.)

I also was thinking of making Young Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf playable first(since storyline wise, Ganondorf comes first, but that's speculation), or Tetra in place of Zelda for a "younger" start. Of course, that screws with where Fierce Deity Link(who is a transformation of Young Link, making him quite a wierd age) fits in, as well as Phantom Ganon.

See, not such an easy idea depending how you go at it. If you just make it some Street Fighter clone or Soul Calibur clone, then it's rather easy. But if you put thought into it, the entire game becomes more complicated(BUT better) overall.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think this is a great idea, and the 1d, 2d, and 3d perspective would be sweet. If any of you played Four Sword Adveunters, you'd like the battle system. It is challegenging, plus sorta reminds me of Bomberman, always fun to blow/kill your friends shamelessly!

Characters + Character Ideas
Starters:
1.Link (TP, OOT).2.Young Link (OOT, but more MM version)/3.Zelda (with sword, and magic, as in OOT and TP version).4.Young Zelda (OOT).5.Ganondorf (OOT, TP version).6.Fado.7.Mido.8.Wolf Link w/t Midna.9.Link's Uncle (ALTTP).10.Tetra.
Secret/Unlockable Charcters:
11.Shiek.12.Midna (end of TP, maybe with a weapon, or sticks with magic).13.Zant.14.Classic Ganon (LOZ, ALTTP, OoA& OoS, FSA).15.OOT Ganon.16.The Wind Waker Ganondorf.17.TP Ganon.18.Aghamin.19.Pickory Sword Link.20.Four Swords Link.21.Vatti (human form).22.Saharrasi (or whatever the old guy who instructs you in ALTTP).23.The Wind Waker Young Zelda.24.Ralph.25.Tingle.26.Heroes Shde (TP).27.Dark Link (ZII, OOT).28. Shadow Link(s) (FSA).29.Darknut.30.Ironknuckle.31.Stalfos (OOT).32.TWW Moblin.33.TP Moblin.34.King Bokoblin (TP).35.Dairia (ZII).36.Lizardmen (ZII).37.Wizzrobe (TWW).38.Bird Knight (ZII).39.Helmethead (ZII).40.Aeralfos (TP).41.Hylian Knights.42.TP Redeads.43.Majora's Reincarnation.43.Daurnia.44.Impa (OOT).45.Zora Link.46.Goron Link.47.Deku Link.48.Fierce Deity Link.48.Twilight Igniter: Fyrus.49.Phantom Ganon(dorf).50.Ashei (TP).51.Rusl.52.Shad.53.Darabus (TP)

Those are basically all the real and only possbilities. They should have some sort of magic system, item option and item upgrades, magic upgrades, etc. I don't expect most of these if Nintendo actually made a LOZ fighting game, but o well, it is all the possiblities I cna think of! Heck, I'd be happy with 20-25 characters!

But ya, it should have like 15 courses or something like that, all with a 1d, 2d, and 3d style! Maybe in level items like the FSA multiplayer, with special triggers and stuff. The Dark World warp feature is neat, and would make the battle system that much better. C'mon, who hasn;t felt the need to have a Zant, Ganon face off? Or Darknut vs. Ralph?

Changeable costumes would be sweet as well, and should have a Wii Online Option, with up to 4 players, and maybe more online! Plus having a taget system 4 3d, even 2d and 1d, as a option would own! I would play that heck of! It would own!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Any version of the same character(Young Link, for example) would just be different depending the game. I admit, that doesn't leave many options for an Adult Link 1-D mode version, but still...

Zora Link, Goron Link, AND Deku Link? I say Deku Link and just use OTHER characters for a Goron and Zora representative. We don't need 9 Links, seriously.

Also, Shadow Link from Ocarina of Time isn't the REAL Shadow Link, but he works for the purpouse of the 3-D Mode. 2-D mode is enough said for his original appearence, and his WW Style for 1-D mode works well, overall. We can do this similary with most characters, really.

For example, we could use LoZ Link(first game), ZII Link(second game) and Adult Link(insert any obvious game here) for Adult Link representative, and Young Link(Minish Cap), Young Link(MM), and Young Link(TWW) for Y. Link representative. Point being, mostly 1 character with different mode versions. Besides Link, Young Link, Deku Link, and Fierce Deity Link(note that there's no key Deku race character, and Shadow Link does similary count in here), no other Links are needed at all. But that's my opinion of it all.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Okay, I posted this on another forum, only it was a poll (I'd of made a poll here, but then I found out you had to PAY to start a poll!).

Here were the choices I had:

Nabooru
0% [ 0 ]
Young Zelda
20% [ 1 ]
Tetra
0% [ 0 ]
Kafei
0% [ 0 ]
The Old Man
0% [ 0 ]
Subrosian
0% [ 0 ]
Ralph
20% [ 1 ]
Fierce Diety Link
40% [ 2 ]
WW Link
0% [ 0 ]
Deku Link
0% [ 0 ]
Goron Link
0% [ 0 ]
Zora Link
0% [ 0 ]
Onox
0% [ 0 ]
Veran
0% [ 0 ]
Phantom Ganon
0% [ 0 ]
Dampe the Gravekeeper
0% [ 0 ]
Happy Mask Salesman
0% [ 0 ]
Zant
0% [ 0 ]
Link's Uncle
0% [ 0 ]
Kaepora Gaebora
0% [ 0 ]
Armos
0% [ 0 ]
Darknut
20% [ 1 ]
Iron Knuckle
0% [ 0 ]
Gibdo
0% [ 0 ]
ReDead
0% [ 0 ]
Lizalfos
0% [ 0 ]
Moblin
0% [ 0 ]
Bokoblin
0% [ 0 ]
Poe
0% [ 0 ]
Stalfos
0% [ 0 ]
Wizzrobe
0% [ 0 ]
Zuna
0% [ 0 ]

That's how the polls were so far... not many people supposrted the idea...

 

[Stryks]

Ok ill just gonna put the characters I think should be in the LoZ fighting game:

Link (TP)
Zelda (TP)
Ganondorf (TP)
Midna
Zant
WW Link
Vaati
Oni Link
Wolf warrior (the guy in TP that shows u the moves)
Sheik
Dark link (would use magic attacks, something original link shouldnt do)

I may think of other characters XD...

 

[Johnknight1]

wolf warrior=heroes shade!
I just put all those because before I just beat the Cave of Ordeals the second time (never used magic armor, o ya!)
Nabooru, I forgot, and I got tons of characters from ZII because I trying to beat that game (last temple path=near impossible, last temple=impossibly large!)

They at least would need the ones Stryks posted ^^^^!Plus Majora's Incarnation or Majora's Wrath, maybeDarknuts, Phantom Ganon, Tetra, and Young Zelda. But What about FS Link? 4 Links=pownage! FSA Mutliplayer=Bomberman like fun+ extra!

 

[Sensai]

That picture of 'Dark Link' made me laugh for about an hour and a half....so terrible...

And I think they already have something like this, except it has more characters. It's called like...'Super Smash Bros.' or something. I dunno, just throwing it out there.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nabooru - Yes. Better than a generic Gerudo, but argueable for other modes. 1-D works well, if you consider how well they did the Zora sprites from the Oracle games(making these nearly as easy, or just mini-fying the Twinrova sprites from the same game)

Young Zelda - Maybe. Outside of the earlier notes on modes, she has no purpouse outside of Tetra playing.

Tetra - Sounds good. I can see many combinations working for her.

Kafei - Boring. Not enough going for him.

The Old Man - Outside of a boss or a cameo like "Whoopsie!" or something like that, fighting just doesn't work. Not that I don't like the character, of course.

Subrosian - I had an earlier dream where I could transform into many forms(well, I was a super being, to be exact) and this was one of 'em. Once again, what items and attacks? Funny costumes for some characters, but unless it's Rosa, there's no purpouse.

Ralph - Another maybe. I see no literal purpouse to him other than being a generic sword fighter. Unless that's the whole point, why bother?

Fierce Deity Link - Can't argue with awesomeness, just as long as he is slow, large, powerful, and not TOO broken.

WW Link - Should be combined with all Young Links, basically.

Deku Link - Only other Link transformation worthy, as there's no well known Deku characters available.

Goron Link - Pfft. Darunia instead. Or even another Goron is better. Too many Links.

Zora Link - Read Goron Link. Ruto is a good option, overall.

Onox - Tough to say. Standalone bosses(with some exceptions, ala Aganhim) don't have much going for them.

Veran - Same problem as mentioned above.

Phantom Ganon - More than enough appearences, hells yeah.

Dampe the Gravekeeper - Maybe. I can see original moves and such, but isn't heavily popular enough.

Happy Mask Salesman - Unless he's like Shang Tsung, or a random character transformation style(like Charade), there's no point to him.

Zant - Maybe. He is cool, funny, and insane, but how would other modes work for him...?

Link's Uncle - He's just as bad Ralph. No purpouse outside of a funny cameo or ending.

Kaepora Gaebora - God no. Maybe he could "start" the match or something like that, but he's way too annoying. He's more hated than Tingle, for crying out loud!

Armos - Armos Knight instead, or not at all. Too generic and not popular enough.

Darknut - The anubinoid armored maniac from many a game. He is needed. When his HP belows half, his armor breaks off, and he is faster, but does less damage.

Iron Knuckle - Perfect golems, unlike the Armoses, they're more fun.

Gibdo - No. Too slow, and has no attacks whatsoever or any ideas for attacks.

Redead - Redead Knight, yes, normal Redead, no.

Lizalfos - Wouldn't mind. We need a fast and wierd characters. Dinofos would also make a nice alternate costume type thing.

Moblin - Needed. They're just awesome. Multiple attack options, and good size changes for the specific mode.

Bokoblin - Nah. Unless it's a 3 way creature combo who takes much damage but can super combo easily, he's worse than Roll with a handicap on Marvel VS Capcom.

Poe - I can't see them and Ghini and Ghosts working too well, truthfully. Though great attacks are available, that's for sure.

Stalfos - Yes, for god's sake yes. They are beyond awesome.

Wizzrobe - Magic is needed, of course. Outside of them and Young Zelda, little magic is present, ya know...

Zuna - If they make more appearences, then maybe...

Where's the *beep* is Ganon, Ganondorf, Shadow Link, and Octoroks. Okay, Octoroks would be a hard one to make...maybe. Sheik is needed, and Wolf Warrior, or possible a Hylian Soldier would be nice. This is why too many Links is a bad thing, well known generic characters(Hylian Soldiers and Octoroks) don't get enough attention...

 

[Brawlmatt202]

That picture of 'Dark Link' made me laugh for about an hour and a half....so terrible...

And I think they already have something like this, except it has more characters. It's called like...'Super Smash Bros.' or something. I dunno, just throwing it out there.

For the last time! SSB is for ALL NINTENDO characters, and the game I'm talking about is LEGEND OF ZELDA EXCLUSIVE!!!

 

[Sensai]

^^^

Just joking, mate. Just saying that they already have this, except it's a bit more diverse.

 

[KalimariDark]

They need a LoZ game that surrounds the Happy Mask Salesman once more. But really involves him. He was so cool, and crazily creepy at the same time. Interesting dude.

As for your idea...as long as it had HMS in it, I'd be happy.

 

[Johnknight1]

Somewhat of a basic story line!

They need a LoZ game that surrounds the Happy Mask Salesman once more. But really involves him. He was so cool, and crazily creepy at the same time. Interesting dude.

As for your idea...as long as it had HMS in it, I'd be happy.

This really depends how it works, or the story goes...maybe like someone (Skull Kid, nah jk!) has unleashed a ton of Lin's enemies, blah blah blah, stole a mask with the power to revive the dead, or found a piece of the Trifforce. Or ancient spell oor ritual that might have connections to the creation of Majora's Mask, possibly made by Majora himself! Anyways, this brought back Ganon, possibly with Majora's Icarnation/Wrath, who brought back evryone else, and his followers and controls some of them. Blah blah blah Link has to save Hyrule by mastering the power of light and darkness, as well as all dimmensions (especially 1d, 2d, and 3d!), and time itself.

TWW Link, TP Link, FSA Links, MC Link, and MM Link, who fight Ganon, who revived himself in all fice of their times, along with every other villian character. Now they must all unite with Zelda and other friends to stop this menace, and save Hyrule! Something like that, I dunno! I just want a striaght up fighting system that fights all 3 dimmensions, on multiple levels! How would that not own? Fight Ganon as Zelda, FSA Link as Zant, and Aghamin as Vatti= awsome!

 

[Peaches]

No offense, but that sounds like a horrible idea for a fighting game and unless you funded it privately, you'd never get the money to make it. So, unless you're a millionaire it'll never happen.

Worry about the battel engine BEFORE the characters, that way it won't be such a bad idea.

 

[Mediocre]

1d

You're aware that one dimension is a line, right?

The game would look something like this:

__________________________________________________________________

See that green bit? That's Link. The purple bit is Ganondorf.

 

[Sensai]

I'd like to expand on Mediocre's point before you jump to conclusions.

When he says it's a line...he means it. JUST left and right, no up and down.

....sounds AWESOME. Let's go for -2d next!

 

[Johnknight1]

omg! Not really 1d, like Super Mario Bros/Zelda II style! 2d as in ALTTP style, and we all know what 3d is! Read a few posts above what I wrote there and you would get it! Or you could listen to Sensai! How would that combat system not be awsome?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I had 1D as overhead, and 2D as Side-Scrolling, but either/or works. Also, as I've said before, WW Link and MC Link are the same guy, for the most part. Same style, with the only difference being a different Link. They make great variations for modes, but that's it.

Mediocre, we know what 1D is. It's just used so it makes sense. Plus, you want 4D instead, where everything is literally real? Didn't think so.

 

[Mediocre]

omg! Not really 1d, like Super Mario Bros/Zelda II style! 2d as in ALTTP style, and we all know what 3d is! Read a few posts above what I wrote there and you would get it! Or you could listen to Sensai! How would that combat system not be awsome?

What you call 1D is really 2D side-scrolling. What you call 2D is 2D overhead view.

Yeah, a 1D game wouldn't be much fun.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Once again, Mediocre, we KNOW that. It's just a better way to play in 2D Mode, 2D Mode, and 3D Mode. It's simplified so people don't get confused. Either way, Line Link would annhilate Line Ganondorf.

 

[Mediocre]

Once again, Mediocre, we KNOW that. It's just a better way to play in 2D Mode, 2D Mode, and 3D Mode. It's simplified so people don't get confused. Either way, Line Link and annhilate Line Ganondorf.

I posted one minute after you, so I didn't see your reply before I made my post. Also, your post seems ridiculously patronizing. I'm sorry that I said something that you already "KNEW", but nowhere in this topic did I see anyone show any hint of understanding of what "1D" actually meant.

Mediocre, we know what 1D is. It's just used so it makes sense. Plus, you want 4D instead, where everything is literally real? Didn't think so.

Games already are 4D, essentially, if you consider time to be the fourth dimension (and time makes more sense as the fourth dimension than anything else, because humans can't comprehend another spatial dimension).

 

[Eight Sage]

HyperFalcon put it all on the table.
those characters are the best for a LoZ fighting game.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Where's the *beep* is Ganon, Ganondorf, Shadow Link, and Octoroks. Okay, Octoroks would be a hard one to make...maybe. Sheik is needed, and Wolf Warrior, or possible a Hylian Soldier would be nice. This is why too many Links is a bad thing, well known generic characters(Hylian Soldiers and Octoroks) don't get enough attention...

I had a picture of Ganondorf from TP, but I didn't want to show it, because of the spoilers it might have.

Ganon... I never really though about him being playable, but maybe as a final boss.

Shadow Link's up there. Itwas the hugh one, like Link only with a black tunic and red eyes.

Octorok would definitely be in the game... I don't know how, though.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think HyperFalcon made a good list, though Zant would be neat (*spolier* he's a new character in TP), Heroes Shade (Wolf Warrior), Wolf Link w/t Midna, and Ganon are needed. Also Vatti would be nice, and TWW Link would own. Zelda/Tetra (maybe as Young Zelda, and Tetra as her own character), would be anotehr needed character. Ganon would be a neat playable character, but I wonder how he would play.

Love the Shadow Link pic, lol! funny still, link must have been turned to the dark side, and became like Darth Sidious (Darth Vader's master) in his ways, but more looks, lol! I seriously hope that is what he looks like, and that should be a new outfit for Link in SSBB=hilarious! Love it!

Darknuts, Helmet Heads, and Ironknuckles would own too! Aghamin, and pretty much every major LOZ hero and villian should be in it (if they can fight that is)! The three diffrent elements (2d side scrolling, 2D overhead, 3D) would own like no other! Who wouldn't want a game with three looks of the game, and uniqueness like no other, lol?

That would still own=o ya, I hope Nintendo expands on their Four Swords Adventures multiplayer (the 3D added element, and more courses, that is)! This should be considered by Nintendo at least, and if they go through with this, I would love to see Miyamoto lead this project! Great idea still, Matt!

 

[Zodiac]

It's not practical. Why spend the money creating another first party fighting game to compete with another first party fighting game? Some people will be totally turned off by the new system it'd have to include, others would prefer it and you'd see people stop playing SSB in favor of that. Most people wouldn't buy both if they wish to be competitive.

This is why Everquest 2 was such a bad idea by SOE. The game was pretty different from Everquest and, by fault, attracted most of its fanbase there to play that instead. Everquest could have grown continuously had EQ2 been different enough, but instead they split their own customers.

this game wont happen, not by nintendo anyway, Mugen is your best bet but, im pretty sure everyone here already knows that it wont happen, if they dont then..... yea. anyway, theres been mugen games with link in it.(Mugen is a 2d fighting game maker) but I dont think I've ever seen all zelda characters in mugen.