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[Laniv]

Awwww yeah I'm here to support Ridley again!

 

[ErenJager]

I wanted Ridley as a playable character ever since I saw him in the Smash Bros Melee cinematic intro.

I believed his size and appearance in that intro was perfect for a playable character in Smash.

I don't think his chances are great of getting in, because, well.. of Sakurai's view on it.

It would be nice to not only have a version of Ridley playable, but also another homage to Melee.

Project M did an alright job of implementing Ridley, I don't see why Sakurai/ Nintendo couldn't make it happen.

At this point I see Ridley's exclusion as a creator bias/ preference and not an actual sizing and formating issue.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Another Ridley thread. Another place to state how good Metroid stuff is and how Ridley should be in Smash. What's not to love?

 

[Wiinner159]

So something ridliculous happened to me today, after maybe at least a year or so I finally realized I hadn't worn my Chozo Puffs shirt in years. Was searching for some new shirts online and found it to remember I had one somewhere, turns out it was slightly buried under some other clothes I had. Glad I found it, gotta advertise that great ancient taste!

Also hello again @JustALurker I see you have the same avatar as the last time I saw you lurking, keep on doing what you're doing mate.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Oh, ****. Are we back? I think we're back! Let's get this pages running away boys! I definitely support the giant purple space dragon!

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Here's a thought, what if Ridley was the number one voting choice but didn't count as "realisable" due to him already being a boss.

Though some days it feels like we'd get Spyro long before Ridley. Not that I'd complain about getting Spyro mind.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Here's a thought, what if Ridley was the number one voting choice but didn't count as "realisable" due to him already being a boss.

I honestly doubt he was the first... Many already though he was unrealisable by the time ballot started.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Here's a thought, what if Ridley was the number one voting choice but didn't count as "realisable" due to him already being a boss.

Though some days it feels like we'd get Spyro long before Ridley. Not that I'd complain about getting Spyro mind.

As good as that would sound, I doubt it.

A costume would have been a sign.

I honestly doubt he was the first... Many already though he was unrealisable by the time ballot started.

This. A lot of people lost hope after that fateful day he was revealed as a stage hazard. The list of petty "I told you so"'s didn't help on the same day.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

He still got a decent amount of votes to a certain degree from what I remember, which under his circumstances was pretty good. Maybe not enough to warrant a Mii costume but either way, it's harder to picture that for him than K. Rool even. On the other hand, it'd probably have better textures than what we got of the stage hazard (the K. Rool costume actually had pretty damn good textures).

 

[Kirbeh]

Someday my sweet space pirate, oddly-proportioned, purple dragon thing. Someday...

I support.

 

[Zem-raj]

Here's a thought, what if Ridley was the number one voting choice but didn't count as "realisable" due to him already being a boss.

Though some days it feels like we'd get Spyro long before Ridley. Not that I'd complain about getting Spyro mind.

Ehhh I wouldn't say he'd be number one in the voting. Perhaps he could make the top 5, but number one would have probably been a character like King K.Rool or Inklings. I hope he had enough votes in the ballot for Nintendo to have a second look. He seems to be in Nintendo's radar at least, what with his inclusion in Miitomo's Metroid 30th Anniversary event, which I might add only contained him, Samus (and her Zero Suit version), and a Metroid. No-one else. AND he was featured as part of the reel for Uniqlo competition video, alongside Bowser, Ganondorf, and Dedede. That says something.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Ridley not getting a mii costume isn't a good indicator of popularity. He doesn't really have a design that would fit the bipedal miis.

A ridley mii costume would look weird as **** compared to say K rool who fits perfectly.



Although he most certainly scored poorly in the ballot. Large hatebase dissuading potential voters+ people thinking he doesn't have a chance + all the people who jumped ship after deconfirmation pretty much guarantees scoring lower than some of the more popular characters like KK rool, Inklings, or Wolf

And even then, Bayo was never deemed popular and "won" the ballot so we don't really know how accurate our polls were

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Yeah, I could only picture like a head, wings, and tail prop for a Mii costume but not much else, though thought it might be worth bringing up for something else to discuss besides the usual.

Of course he didn't score as much as those that had more going for them, but he seemed to do okay for awhile otherwise, though yeah, a number of factors like those kept him from getting as much votes as he could've sadly. The timing of the ballot was simply the worst possible for him.

His supportbase for Smash may never fully recover or make a comeback in fact and become the next Geno or something as far as that.

 

[Zem-raj]

1.8 million votes were counted for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot, out of a possible 8 million+ people (based on Super Smash Bros. Brawl's and Super Smash Bors for 3DS' sales numbers), which seems a bit... small... Either not many cared to bother voting, or people were't informed enough, or something else. I voted for Ridley in the ballot, not in the mind of DLC for Smash WiiU/3DS (I doubted he'd get in for those games anyway), but in mind for future Smash Bros. games, and showing that I still wanted and supported the character.

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Someone on the First4Figures club on Facebook, who I'm assuming works with First4Figures, posted a teaser for the Meta Ridley statue. Perhaps it'll be the next statue/figure shown after giving the Solaire statue attention. Imagine if they did an exclusive edition of the Meta Ridley statue, where the eyes and wings glowed like they do in Metroid Prime. I'd so buy it.

 

[Schnee117]

1.8 million votes were counted for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot, out of a possible 8 million+ people (based on Super Smash Bros. Brawl's and Super Smash Bors for 3DS' sales numbers), which seems a bit... small... Either not many cared to bother voting, or people were't informed enough, or something else..

The casual fanbase:
- Make up the majority of the sales for the games
- Didn't know the poll stuff existed
- Don't care enough to vote for a character

 

[Zem-raj]

The casual fanbase:
- Make up the majority of the sales for the games
- Didn't know the poll stuff existed
- Don't care enough to vote for a character

Then the casual audience would be covered under "or something else" then XD

 

[N3ON]

Here's a thought, what if Ridley was the number one voting choice but didn't count as "realisable" due to him already being a boss.

Though some days it feels like we'd get Spyro long before Ridley. Not that I'd complain about getting Spyro mind.

Another restatement of Ridley's popularity wouldn't have ended any different since it's not Ridley lack of popularity keeping him out. Sakurai has noted the demand for Ridley since Brawl. It's not like, even if Ridley had placed first, Sakurai would've thought "if only I had known he was popular I wouldn't have made him a boss".

1.8 million votes were counted for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot, out of a possible 8 million+ people (based on Super Smash Bros. Brawl's and Super Smash Bors for 3DS' sales numbers), which seems a bit... small... Either not many cared to bother voting, or people were't informed enough, or something else. I voted for Ridley in the ballot, not in the mind of DLC for Smash WiiU/3DS (I doubted he'd get in for those games anyway), but in mind for future Smash Bros. games, and showing that I still wanted and supported the character.

Does it really? Take into account the fact that some people voted across multiple devices, so the actual number of voters is even less. But, frankly, the fact that there were that many votes in the first place is really something. People don't realize what a minority the active online Smash community. Smash is a massive franchise and we're just a drop in the bucket. Many just get the game, and either play it from time to time, or don't even bother delving deeply into it. Most people I know who own Smash 4 haven't purchased any of the DLC. We are very much the vocal minority.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Oh yeah, there's that too (the fact they already knew he was popular since Brawl, so him scoring notably higher on the ballot wouldn't of changed much if anything), so didn't feel that bad about it long run. Said popularity was even why we got him over Dyna Blade as an SSE boss iirc, even though he was pretty much a clone of that in his regular form.

 

[Zem-raj]

Does it really? Take into account the fact that some people voted across multiple devices, so the actual number of voters is even less. But, frankly, the fact that there were that many votes in the first place is really something. People don't realize what a minority the active online Smash community. Smash is a massive franchise and we're just a drop in the bucket. Many just get the game, and either play it from time to time, or don't even bother delving deeply into it. Most people I know who own Smash 4 haven't purchased any of the DLC. We are very much the vocal minority.

Admittedly, I was expecting at least around 3 million. This number just shows how many are actually dedicated to the series. Even then, not all are into the whole competitive scene or play it actively either. I voted, but I'm not bothered about the competitive scene, and I haven't played the games in years.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

1.8 million votes were counted for the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot, out of a possible 8 million+ people (based on Super Smash Bros. Brawl's and Super Smash Bors for 3DS' sales numbers), which seems a bit... small... Either not many cared to bother voting, or people were't informed enough, or something else. I voted for Ridley in the ballot, not in the mind of DLC for Smash WiiU/3DS (I doubted he'd get in for those games anyway), but in mind for future Smash Bros. games, and showing that I still wanted and supported the character.

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Someone on the First4Figures club on Facebook, who I'm assuming works with First4Figures, posted a teaser for the Meta Ridley statue. Perhaps it'll be the next statue/figure shown after giving the Solaire statue attention. Imagine if they did an exclusive edition of the Meta Ridley statue, where the eyes and wings glowed like they do in Metroid Prime. I'd so buy it.

First4Figures confirmed the Meta Ridley statue in December iirc

 

[Zem-raj]

First4Figures confirmed the Meta Ridley statue in December iirc

Yeah, 25th December. They've shown a teaser for a mock-up, but not the final product. Other statues revealed after it have had their final products shown, and are available to purchase already. I contacted First4Figures, and they said they're still working on it. Recently, there has been another teaser for it on the Collectors Club, but more close up to the extra details on the mock up. Hopefully we'll get to see the final thing soon. Looking at what other statues have had, there's a regular edition and exclusive edition - the exclusive editions tend to be able to glow or have something extra to add more detail to the characters. The Solaire statue has 3 editions O_o

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

Hopefully, we'll get Ridley in as a big hype-up newcomer to drive interest in Smash on the Switch. Count me in for another journey (of hopefully a more happy ending then last time).

 

[ssbashworld]

I remember seeing a rumor or idea of a playable boss mode being added which would make ridley, master hand, etc playable. I think that could be interesting although im not sure i see it happening and that is the only way i see it happening at all unfortunatly.

 

[dangeraaron10]

If they did make Ridley playable, I guarantee he'd be among the first we would see. Just like we were lead off with Meta Knight, Pit, and Wario in Brawl as well as Megaman and Villager in Smash 4. Well, either a "first to gain interest" or a "best for last" kinda thing. I'm thinking more of the former, though. Make no mistake, they'd have to buckle down and make a "Made for Smash" version of Ridley just like they did with Pit.

I don't recall any notable complaints that Pit didn't turn out more like this:

 

[A Distant Demon]

If they did make Ridley playable, I guarantee he'd be among the first we would see. Just like we were lead off with Meta Knight, Pit, and Wario in Brawl as well as Megaman and Villager in Smash 4. Well, either a "first to gain interest" or a "best for last" kinda thing. I'm thinking more of the former, though. Make no mistake, they'd have to buckle down and make a "Made for Smash" version of Ridley just like they did with Pit.

I don't recall any notable complaints that Pit didn't turn out more like this:

Maybe not that but you will find people complaining about another KI character. . 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And those people being me, myself, and I


Anyway, I think a smash design would be the best thing for Ridley. It works for guys like Roy and Pit, and would work perfectly for Mr. Awkward himself.

 

[dangeraaron10]

Maybe not that but you will find people complaining about another KI character. . 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And those people being me, myself, and I


Anyway, I think a smash design would be the best thing for Ridley. It works for guys like Roy and Pit, and would work perfectly for Mr. Awkward himself.

Huh, I didn't even realize what the original art for Palutena looked like.

I think if they shortened Ridley's legs a tad and made his arms much longer, while retaining his smaller wings from Super Metroid, while also making the head slightly smaller (but still quite large in comparison to the rest of his body), and have his twig neck a bit more folded...I think you can make Ridley compact enough. That's really what it's all about, not so much resizing Ridley as to adjusting his proportions to make him more compact and fit into a box more neatly. Charizard's tail extends into the "background" of the stage in 2.5D in order to conserve space on the screen. I think you'd take a similar approach to Ridley. Though Ridley can adjust how large his tail is when using his tail spike attack...

...I'm sensing an incoming meme regarding Donkey Kong.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

It's those kind of little details that make it interesting to see how he would or could work far as hitbox, etc, and the different ways one could go about it.

Like some of the art for the original Metroid, I'm a sucker for that old school artstyle there of Pit and Palutena. Not that I'd care to see 3D model versions of those in Smash, but ya know, still nostalgic.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Just gonna throw my name in here in support, I don't see any way that Ridley will make it in as I doubt anything has changed for Sakurai since release, but as long as there's even a 0.01% chance that he can make it I'll always vouch for him.

 

[SvartWolf]

oh boy, is THAT time of the year already?

yeah, throw me in whatever supporters list is made. It would be nice though that those had any impact on anythng DX

 

[Bowserlick]

Ridley can work with a large size.

His wings and tails should not have hurt-boxes. Any attack on them could knock them to the side on the Z axis. His neck can double-back on itself or be coiled in an S form, as if the war-lust dragon is consistently in strike position, ready to dive his maw into Nintendo flesh.

 

[N3ON]

If they did make Ridley playable, I guarantee he'd be among the first we would see. Just like we were lead off with Meta Knight, Pit, and Wario in Brawl as well as Megaman and Villager in Smash 4. Well, either a "first to gain interest" or a "best for last" kinda thing. I'm thinking more of the former, though. Make no mistake, they'd have to buckle down and make a "Made for Smash" version of Ridley just like they did with Pit.

I don't recall any notable complaints that Pit didn't turn out more like this:

I could see them showing off Ridley from the get-go, but it's not like Smash hasn't thrown out some of its most requested reveals just rather arbitrarily in the middle. Such as with Brawl when they went for the Meta-Knight reveal at the beginning over the more requested Dedede, or just dropping Diddy Kong like halfway through the DOJO's run. And those two characters were certainly up there with the likes of Wario in terms of demand, outpacing the others in the trailer.

Also Smash doesn't really do the "best for last" kinda thing. In fact it usually does almost the opposite, which is why the tail-end unlockable characters usually get a lot of flack as if people were expecting some "best for last" deal.

 

[FunAtParties]

I could see them showing off Ridley from the get-go, but it's not like Smash hasn't thrown out some of its most requested reveals just rather arbitrarily in the middle. Such as with Brawl when they went for the Meta-Knight reveal at the beginning over the more requested Dedede, or just dropping Diddy Kong like halfway through the DOJO's run. And those two characters were certainly up there with the likes of Wario in terms of demand, outpacing the others in the trailer.

Also Smash doesn't really do the "best for last" kinda thing. In fact it usually does almost the opposite, which is why the tail-end unlockable characters usually get a lot of flack as if people were expecting some "best for last" deal.

I'm pretty sure Meta Knight was the most requested character for Brawl right before the reveal.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm pretty sure Meta Knight was the most requested character for Brawl right before the reveal.

Nope, that would be the fatass.

 

[Zem-raj]

I'm pretty sure Meta Knight was the most requested character for Brawl right before the reveal.

At the time (pre-Brawl), in one poll I think Dedede was the most requested character, with Ridley behind him. I can't really remember the details though.

 

[FunAtParties]

At the time (pre-Brawl), in one poll I think Dedede was the most requested character, with Ridley behind him. I can't really remember the details though.

I've tried to find the poll, but I remember long long ago, this place had a poll pre-Brawl announcement that had Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, Wario, Sonic, and DDD top 5, with Olimar, Pit, Wolf, and some others filling out the rest of the top 10. Looking back its kind of crazy seeing how many fan favorites made it in Brawl, 4 was like a complete 180.

I also distinctly remember Toad, and Blaziken being really big at the time maybe in the top 10, and funnily enough not Ridley.

I feel like characters like Ridley, K.Rool, and Isaac blew up right after Brawl's release as everyone just looked at each other and was like ok now what else? Stuff's changed since then, but I really don't recall Ridley being that big of a deal back then.

 

[N3ON]

I would guess that the "poll" regularly being referenced is just the quantity of character mentions from Sakurai's Brawl-era journal, which were mistakenly misrepresented in the west as "poll votes". On it, I believe Dedede was first, and Ridley tied for second with some other characters, but that simply indicated how many times Sakurai mentioned them, which wasn't necessarily reflective of their popularity in comparison to each other.

The actual Brawl poll (which was Japanese only) has never had its results released. However Sonic placed first and Mega Man placed highly. Worth noting is, I believe, the poll was conducted before people even knew third-parties would be included in Smash.

I've tried to find the poll, but I remember long long ago, this place had a poll pre-Brawl announcement that had Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, Wario, Sonic, and DDD top 5, with Olimar, Pit, Wolf, and some others filling out the rest of the top 10. Looking back its kind of crazy seeing how many fan favorites made it in Brawl, 4 was like a complete 180.

Those were some of the popular characters back then, but there are several omissions such as Ridley, Krystal, Geno, Mega Man, Isaac, Lyn, Lucario, Goroh, Midna, etc. Basically it seems like you're remembering the popular characters who ended up getting included, lol.

I also distinctly remember Toad, and Blaziken being really big at the time maybe in the top 10, and funnily enough not Ridley.

This I don't remember. Not that they were "unpopular", but even back then other Mario characters' popularity eclipsed that of Toad, such as Waluigi, Geno, and Bowser Jr, whereas Blaziken was a popular Pokemon, but people weren't expecting starters, let alone by themselves, and characters such as Lucario and Deoxys were the top picks.

I feel like characters like Ridley, K.Rool, and Isaac blew up right after Brawl's release as everyone just looked at each other and was like ok now what else? Stuff's changed since then, but I really don't recall Ridley being that big of a deal back then.

I'd say you've a selective memory then. Ridley was probably the most popular Nintendo character that wasn't ultimately included on the roster. At least in the west. Nintendo Power even asked Sakurai what was up with his omission. Isaac, also was regularly atop popularity polls, and definitely was the most popular pick from a Nintendo series not included in Brawl. Both popular choices.

K. Rool, on the other hand, did get most of his popularity post-Brawl, but not because he was unpopular or anything... just that people's attention and support was focused on Diddy. He was the priority in the DK hierarchy, and people rightly didn't expect we'd get a character like K. Rool or Dixie until Diddy was added.

 

[FunAtParties]

I would guess that the "poll" regularly being referenced is just the quantity of character mentions from Sakurai's Brawl-era journal, which were mistakenly misrepresented in the west as "poll votes". On it, I believe Dedede was first, and Ridley tied for second with some other characters, but that simply indicated how many times Sakurai mentioned them, which wasn't necessarily reflective of their popularity in comparison to each other.

The actual Brawl poll (which was Japanese only) has never had its results released. However Sonic placed first and Mega Man placed highly. Worth noting is, I believe, the poll was conducted before people even knew third-parties would be included in Smash.


Those were some of the popular characters back then, but there are several omissions such as Ridley, Krystal, Geno, Mega Man, Isaac, Lyn, Lucario, Goroh, Midna, etc. Basically it seems like you're remembering the popular characters who ended up getting included, lol.


This I don't remember. Not that they were "unpopular", but even back then other Mario characters' popularity eclipsed that of Toad, such as Waluigi, Geno, and Bowser Jr, whereas Blaziken was a popular Pokemon, but people weren't expecting starters, let alone by themselves, and characters such as Lucario and Deoxys were the top picks.


I'd say you've a selective memory then. Ridley was probably the most popular Nintendo character that wasn't ultimately included on the roster. At least in the west. Nintendo Power even asked Sakurai what was up with his omission. Isaac, also was regularly atop popularity polls, and definitely was the most popular pick from a Nintendo series not included in Brawl. Both popular choices.

K. Rool, on the other hand, did get most of his popularity post-Brawl, but not because he was unpopular or anything... just that people's attention and support was focused on Diddy. He was the priority in the DK hierarchy, and people rightly didn't expect we'd get a character like K. Rool or Dixie until Diddy was added.

I mean, my memory's not perfect, but calling it selective, especially when bringing up those characters, is kind of ridiculous seeing I would have loved nothing more for all of them to be top choices even back then.

I know Ridley was popular (not sure top 10, and definitely not 5) back then, but I distinctly remember all those characters becoming really popular towards the waning moments of Brawl's release, and after. But pre-reveal? Not so much.

Edit: I replied to your comment without reading the whole thing originally. The Pokemon part makes me realize that we're talking about different times. I'm talking speculation around 04-05 when Gen 4 didn't come out yet. I only bring it up, because you mention Lucario and Deoxys' popularity, when at the point of the 'Smash 3' poll I was remembering they didn't even exist yet.

 

[FunAtParties]

You know, we may never be able to truly recollect who all was and wasn't popular back in the olden times, but I think we can all agree that Knuckles has always been and will always be the greatest snub in Smash history.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

If my memory serves correctly, Geno, Ridley, and Krystal were the "big 3" in the pre-Brawl days that didn't get in. There was a popular topic back then that had a % chance for all the newcomers, and Ridley was the highest ranked character that didn't get in.

Anyway, I might as well offer my support here. I always thought he would make a good character ever since I first saw him.

 

[Zem-raj]

If Ridley got in Smash 6 (Smash 4 = SSB3DS, Smash 5 = SSBWiiU), and Nintendo continued the amiibo line (or made a new set for Super Smash Bros.), then the Ridley amiibo might look similarly to this:

(Ridley render courtesy of the Smashified team)

Ridley amiibo alongside Samus and Zero Suit Samus amiibo.