Lovers n' Friends Mafia | Ovah

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Right now? Bullet to my head one of gorf/bardull as I don't feel like you or jex is that great a lynch right now and maven is town. Rake null and I feel like one of the remaining 2 flipping gives a decent amount of info on the other

How am I null to you. No gusta

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Don't like mavens vote thinking bardull.was down ad out

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Also kantrips wrong about the bussing angle but not necessarily scummy. Scum won't bus this game cause town can win d1 off that

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@Chaco replaces bardull effective immediately.

i gotta do some stuff to modbot to get him to handle the change, but it should be done relatively shortly. Feel free to vote either chaco / bardull and i'll make sure the count is correct. (the mod is the final arbiter of the votecount anyways)

 

[Maven89]

I did think I was hammering Bardull, I thought (and still do) that it would make the game over. I was also thinking the game would end last night.


Let's look at Jex's outburst. There is only one way his tissy fit makes sense, and that is if he thought he was going to be killed for stupid reasons. He didn't lose his composure when I fingered him before, or when Potassium voted for him. He only went off the rails after my post, in which I unvoted Jaxs and was voting for Bardull. Jaxs treated Bardull's death as if it was going to kill him too. Re-read the page where Jaxs went crazy, and you'll see this is the only situation that explains it. Jax was bitter because he thought my reasons were stupid, and that he was going to be figured out by some ****** (me) who caught him in blind luck. But again, it was Bardull who was going to die, not him. But he treated that as his death too.

Then there's this post.

Oh wait you're scum so Nvm.

He forgot that he was supposed to be fingering Potassium as scum.

Then, when Jaxen voted for Bardull, I asked if he thought other people would too. He said

Won't respond to anything.

I think that quote alone is enough, but let's look at it. He's voting for Bardull's death, but got incredibly angry when he thought Bardull was going to die, and refuses say if he thinks other people should vote the way he does. This can only be explains by Jaxs voting for Bardull as a cover and doesn't want him to actually die.

I feel like this is solved.

 

[Maven89]

Also who is Kantrips?

 

[Maven89]

EBWOP

"Then, when Jaxen voted for Bardull, I asked if he thought other people would too. He said "

thought other people should*

 

[JeXs]

its like you dont read

 

[Maven89]

When you die I'm going to quote all of your posts mocking me and rub them in your face

 

[JeXs]

sure thing buddy

 

[JeXs]

how the **** you can even come to the conclusion that im mad cause bardull is dying is something that i will never understand

 

[Maven89]

Fine, let's pretend you're not scum.

Who do you think we should lynch?

 

[JeXs]

think its pretty obvious from my posts

 

[Maven89]

So Bardull? The guy you're voting for and voted for 3 times?

 

[JeXs]

Let me quote it for you since you dislike reading that much.

Bardull potato scum.

 

[Maven89]

So yes we should all vote Bardull? You're ok with a Bardull lynch?

 

[JeXs]

I would appreciate it if you actually read my posts.

 

[Maven89]

I'd appreciate it if you'd answer mine.

Why are you so actually do defensivelly? If Bardull dies and is town, you're cleared. If bardull dies, is scum, and you're town, you're cleared. So why are you so hesitant to just come out and say you think Bardull needs to die? Why not help the town out? Why not make a post where you say why you think Bardull is scummy?

 

[JeXs]

If bardull is in my scum pool OBVIOUSLY I would agree to his lynch. Common sense, no?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

unvote

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

also jexs change your attitude toward the newb for gods sake.

 

[JeXs]

I've been trying to chill but when I see posts that don't make sense and somehow call me scum it is just maddening.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

maven, you dont want to overanalyze the situation at hand when trying to scumhunt. the fact is that what is in the thread is the only tangible evidence we have. its not an easy thing to do, but a good rule of thumb is that if it requires you to make a conspiracy theory out of it, its likely not worth the evidence. now i still think jex is scummy but youve transcended a scumread and gone onto conspiracy. just... maybe take a step back and look more broadly. sometimes were too busy looking at one blemish, we miss the whole face.

~ wise words with guru gorf

 

[JeXs]

Maven feels like an active conspiracy theory Reader....

 

[Maven89]

maven, you dont want to overanalyze the situation at hand when trying to scumhunt. the fact is that what is in the thread is the only tangible evidence we have. its not an easy thing to do, but a good rule of thumb is that if it requires you to make a conspiracy theory out of it, its likely not worth the evidence. now i still think jex is scummy but youve transcended a scumread and gone onto conspiracy. just... maybe take a step back and look more broadly. sometimes were too busy looking at one blemish, we miss the whole face.

~ wise words with guru gorf

I disagree, I feel like Jex thinking he was going to die is the only scenario that would cause hat reaction.

Why did you unvote?

 

[Maven89]

Again, he had no problem with my thinking he was scum before, or potassium thinking he was scum, but something in that last post, which was no different then other others before it, caused him to go off. This is right there in the thread.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I've been trying to chill but when I see posts that don't make sense and somehow call me scum it is just maddening.

dude if you cant handle bad reads on you youre going to have a miserable time in the future playing mafia, regardless of alignment. you know how many awful reads i constantly have thrown on me by actual *******?... well i dont have a figure but its a lot. your reaction is very poor dude. shift your paradigm and understand this is his first game.

I disagree, I feel like Jex thinking he was going to die is the only scenario that would cause hat reaction.

Why did you unvote?

have you ever been... flustered?

cuz i felt like it was the right course of action at this time.

 

[JeXs]

I'm actually more mad at potato than I am at maven. It's not their reads that make me mad but their reasons and refusal to listen to why it's wrong.

 

[JeXs]

Anyway gorf. You're making this into another frozen scenario which I REALLY am not going to like.

 

[Maven89]

have you ever been... flustered?

That was not the actions of someone flustered. Flustered would just be the "ok fine I won't post" posts. The saying "**** you *******" is rage. He was incredibly angry at what had happened in my post where I switched by vote from him to Bardull. Rage would be clearly expressed if he thought he was losing, not if he thought the guy he was voting for was going to be lynched.

I mean, we have a mafia lover scenario, then one player completely breaks down when he thinks a different player (who he's voting for) is about to be lynched. What scenarios does that make sense in? If he wanted the guy to die he shouldn't be upset


Also, I expect Chaco will come out of the gate voting for me.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

nah not really. you should chill out

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

ninja'd

but still applies

 

[JeXs]

This is what I meant. Refusal to listen.

 

[JeXs]

nah not really. you should chill out

It is. I'm trying but people seem to like making it tough for me.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@bot replace #hbc | bardeezy:haco

lol gawddamn smileys

 

[Maven89]

This is what I meant. Refusal to listen.

What have you said for your own defense other then "you're arguments are so stupid I'm not even going to say why", then complaining that I'm "not listening"?

Also could someone explain what a "Frozen Gorf" scenario is?

 

[JeXs]

I have said why but you just said it's a scum tell despite me telling you that's what I do all the time. Which means it's null.

 

[JeXs]

That scenario is from a game when he tunneled me and refused to give reasons.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

its not null because you do it all the time. its null because thats something equally possibly done by town and scum in that situation.

i gave my reason to the t in frozen dafuq are you talking about?

 

[JeXs]

you continually refused to give reason initially