Lol, wut?

[Divilenta]

So, I was playing some matches against Lv. 9 CPU Snakes on Norfair, and I Dair'd Snake to combo off of the lava bounce, which had risen to the 2nd platform. Well, instead of bouncing, he went right through the lava, kinda like a Ganoncide on Lava. Snake died at 107%....and I have a Replay but have no means of uploading it.

Has this happened to any of you?

 

[:mad:]

I've had this same thing happen with Falco's dair.
It doesn't seem like a glitch, just something they threw in there. Like, if your downward momentum is so great, you pass right through the lava.

 

[Noobicidal]

Like, if your downward momentum is so great, you pass right through the lava.

Dair certainly has the potential for something like this to happen.

 

[:mad:]

That goes without saying. Ganon's could probably knock you right through the stage.
If you had a video of this, that would help even more.
Post it, if you can.

 

[Squirrely]

I thought this thing happened all the time.

Last kill of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9LgaKGmrsI
is the only one I have uploaded now, I probably have a couple more on my wii.

Although I think it's odd I've never heard of anyone going through the wall of lava that creeps in from the side, despite velocity. Maybe different mechanics...

 

[Divilenta]

So I'm not crazy? Okay. :D

That goes without saying. Ganon's could probably knock you right through the stage.
If you had a video of this, that would help even more.
Post it, if you can.

...I'd have to find the money to get a capture card, and that would be prolly a couple of weeks. So....yeah....

I thought this thing happened all the time.

Last kill of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9LgaKGmrsI
is the only one I have uploaded now, I probably have a couple more on my wii.

Although I think it's odd I've never heard of anyone going through the wall of lava that creeps in from the side, despite velocity. Maybe different mechanics...

I notice that in the first stock, thunderstomps made Ganon bounce off. It wasn't until one was at approx. 100% damage that he went through the acid. Thanks for the vid. :D

Oh, and I did WP a CPU Snake mostly through a wall of Lava, once. I think it turned into a Star KO, but I don't have a replay of that.

 

[DKKountry]

Did this happen in Melee? or is it one of the physics changes in Brawl? I wouldn't know 'cause I never play that stage.

 

[Squirrely]

I don't recall this ever happening in melee.

Also, I have a video of me down-b spiking cpu falcon through lava when he was at 10%. Since I did the spike at nearly point blank to the lava, I propose there's a proportionate threshold that determines whether or not one breaks the surface tension of lava or acid. Something along the lines of 0% from point blank to 100% from full screen height. And this would fluctuate based on velocity from the spike or whatever caused the momentum. So more powerful spikes or whathaveyou would obviously have a lower threshold and break the surface earlier than weaker ones.

Thanks for giving me something to ponder, Div.
I could upload the cpu vid but I don't know how useful it would be since it just has that 10% spike and some 160%+ spike from way up. And people often discredit computer players anyways.

Edit: Scratch that thing I said about the wall of lava several posts ago. I forgot about the one in @home's murder video. I think it's about 23 seconds in . Awesome video btw, @home.

 

[Divilenta]

I don't recall this ever happening in melee.

Also, I have a video of me down-b spiking cpu falcon through lava when he was at 10%. Since I did the spike at nearly point blank to the lava, I propose there's a proportionate threshold that determines whether or not one breaks the surface tension of lava or acid. Something along the lines of 0% from point blank to 100% from full screen height. And this would fluctuate based on velocity from the spike or whatever caused the momentum. So more powerful spikes or whathaveyou would obviously have a lower threshold and break the surface earlier than weaker ones.

Thanks for giving me something to ponder, Div.
I could upload the cpu vid but I don't know how useful it would be since it just has that 10% spike and some 160%+ spike from way up. And people often discredit computer players anyways.

Edit: Scratch that thing I said about the wall of lava several posts ago. I forgot about the one in @home's murder video. I think it's about 23 seconds in . Awesome video btw, @home.

In Melee, it was weird. I recall spiking a CPU Falcon with Ganondorf, and the momentum was so great that instead of going through the acid, Falcon bounced off, went up 1 foot, and then plummeted again at high speeds. It was weeeeeird.

Sounds interesting...I'd like to do some testing on that. :D

Ur welcome...and so what? Just because it's a CPU doesn't mean that it can't happen to a human player.

 

[fromundaman]

Ummm... Hasn't this been known for like a year?
Any sufficiently strong momentum goes through lava/water.

 

[Divilenta]

Ummm... Hasn't this been known for like a year?
Any sufficiently strong momentum goes through lava/water.

I didn't know. >.>

I knew water, but Lava/Acid I assumed you bounced off of unless you ganoncided off of it.

 

[DKKountry]

Yeah, I knew about water, but the lava's news to me.

 

[fromundaman]

Oops... I thought this was known and never said anything then...