Lloyd Pye's "Starchild" &"Intervention Theory" Discussion

[II Bolt II]

Not Familiar with Lloyd Pye?​

Lloyd Pye is perhaps best known as the caretaker of the Starchild skull.

Since 1999 he has been shepherding this mysterious skull through a battery of scientific testing in an attempt to prove whether the skull is entirely human...or something else.

The "Starchild" is a real, true bone skull independently dated by Carbon-14 to be 900 years old (+/- 40 years). It is unlike any human skull ever seen before. The name "Starchild" is the result of early X-rays taken of the skull and maxilla fragment found with it, which showed unerupted teeth that, combined with the smaller-than-normal-adult size of the skull, indicated a child of 5 or 6. However, subsequent examination by experts have led to the suggestion that this age is not necessarily accurate.

From its extremely shallow eye sockets to the total lack of frontal sinuses, the Starchild skull's morphology cannot be accounted for by any known combination of deformities. The bone is half as thick, weighs half as much, and is at least double the strength of normal human bone--unlike anything currently on the scientific record. Furthermore, inside that unusual bone are microscopic fibers and a reddish residue that so far defy any explanation.

If you would like to know more Information about the history of the Starchild Skull, click here.

A Brief Introduction to..
INTERVENTION THEORY​

"Science in its ideology sees itself as doing a fearless exploration of the unknown. Most of the time it is a fearful exploration of the almost known."
- Rupert Sheldrake

Intervention theory is the "almost known" factor in a four-horse race with evolution, creationism, and intelligent design.

• Evolutionists, or "Darwinists," typically believe that all life on Earth began when the lifeless "primordial soup" on prehistoric Earth was struck by lightning. The Miller-Urey experiments attempting to prove this theory failed to do so; however, they often form the back-bone of evolutionary arguments. Another argument for evolution is based on the work of Charles Darwin, who observed MICRO-evolution (adaptation within a species over time, such as lengthening of a Tortoises neck, or changes in the shape of a Finch's beak), and postulated that if small changes can occur within a species over hundreds or thousands of years, perhaps over tens or hundreds of thousands of years one species may adapt, or "evolve," into an entirely different species. To his credit as a great thinker and genuine truth-seeker, Darwin himself admitted that this was ONLY a theory with no real evidence or testability. He stressed that he might be wrong, and that evidence of this inter-species evolution (the "missing link") would need to be found by later archaeologists and anthropologists for it to gain scientific credibility.
  
  
• Creationism is the belief that all life was created by God. There are varying degrees of Creationism, from the literal "7 day" interpretation of the Bible, to a more relaxed view that God did it, but it was in His "divine" version of 7 days, not necessarily 7 literal days as we count them now.
  
  
• Intelligent Design is a science-based rebuttal to Darwinism that uses modern microbiological evidence to claim that MACRO-evolution is simply not possible, and does not account for life on Earth. They postulate that some intelligent entity (they do not specify this entity) consciously and deliberately created life on Earth.
  
  
• Intervention Theory agrees to a large extent with Intelligent Design, using many of the same scientific arguments against Darwinism to disprove evolution; however, it puts a name to the entity that created life on Earth--extraterrestrials. The core of Intervention Theory is that, while there may be a greater "God," the gods (plural, small "g," as described in virtually all ancient religious texts, including the original Old Testament of the Bible) who created life on Earth, were not this greater God. They were, in fact, alien beings who incrementally terraformed and populated the planet for their own reasons, later returning to Earth and, through a process of genetic manipulation, producing humans. These alien beings are responsible for the megalithic structures around the world, the impossibly rapid growth and advancement of Sumer, the first recognized "civilized" culture, the domestication of plants and animals, and the unexplainable flaws in human DNA. (We have, for example, over 4000 genetic disorders--vastly more than other "higher" primates).

Intervention Theory is seldom acknowledged or discussed by its competitors, and when it is discussed it's ridiculed or dismissed outright. This is because today it stands on a threshold occupied by many other ideas now recognized as "ahead of their time." For example, in 1915 German meteorologist Alfred Wegener proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the earth's surface was composed of giant moveable plates. Wegener had everything except a mechanism for how the plates moved, which we now know was tectonic activity. That missing mechanism allowed his scientific peers to dismiss the obvious truth of his argument because he could not explain why it was true, only that it obviously was true. It took 40 years and the deaths of two generations of "fearful explorers" to legitimize plate tectonics for the truth it always was.

In 1968 Erich Von Daniken first suggested intervention from beyond earth as a means of explaining the blatantly obvious fact that the world's megalithic structures could not be built by humans today, much less by the primitive people of antiquity who supposedly did so. As with Wegener, no one could seriously refute the validity of Von Daniken's arguments. However, also like Wegener, he could not establish a mechanism for how aliens from beyond earth could have created those wonders. Then, in 1976, Zecharia Sitchin provided a mechanism of sorts with his brilliant interpretations of the writings of the ancient Sumerians, in which they spoke freely of "gods" from another planet living among them as their lords and masters. Unfortunately, mainstream science can and does dismiss these 4,000 year old writings on stone tablets as "mythology" that could not possibly be the actual history the Sumerians portrayed them to be.

Now Lloyd Pye offers a new mechanism, modern DNA evidence, to combine with what has previously been put forth by Von Daniken and others, and Sitchin and others. DNA provides conclusive proof of what the Sumerians wrote 4000 years ago when they said that their down-to-earth "gods" created humans and domesticated plants and animals in "a house of fashioning" to "give the gods their ease." In other words, they genetically engineered the things they needed to make life for themselves as easy as possible on what had to be a distant and no doubt difficult outpost far from their home planet. This is now the core of Intervention Theory, and this is what will ultimately prevail against the three current leaders in the race to identify the truth about origins on our planet.

I am interested in hearing your thoughts and feelings towards this theory.

 

[Mr.Freeman]

You mean the ancient astronaut thing? Seems possible, considering there's cave paintings of little stick figures pointing at disks in the sky, medieval and renaissance art with flying saucers, religous texts, and monumental architecture.

Not really a believer in it, just pointing out some things I've read and seen.

 

[II Bolt II]

You mean the ancient astronaut thing? Seems possible, considering there's cave paintings of little stick figures pointing at disks in the sky, medieval and renaissance art with flying saucers, religous texts, and monumental architecture.

Not really a believer in it, just pointing out some things I've read and seen.

Yes, our Ancient History is littered with many clues about Alien Life. I'm not sure if I believe everything I read or hear about, but I am definitely very open minded to this theory and it's ideas. A lot of it makes sense.

Have you read much about the Starchild? I find that particular find to be quite fascinating. Definitely something worth looking into if you are curious about this sort of thing.

 

[Lawlb0t]

I don't have much to say about their work other then its useful, but I rather comment on the direction in general concerning ancient alien theory especially in Mainstream Media. I don't like all the propaganda going around thats leaning towards worshiping the Anunnaki, etc. Looking back years ago when I got into this, you would barely see this on TV and it would be hardly considered amongst others on forums. Now its on TV and giving it a 'unbiased' review. To me that raises red flags. TV isn't used to educate, its used to indoctrinate.

Do your own research. The information is there. The evidence is abundant. Earth/Humans have had a far longer and much more rich history than what you are being told.

*no half *** empiricists plz*

PS: Its not about believing. Its about knowing and acceptance.

 

[II Bolt II]

I don't have much to say about their work other then its useful, but I rather comment on the direction in general concerning ancient alien theory especially in Mainstream Media. I don't like all the propaganda going around thats leaning towards worshiping the Anunnaki, etc. Looking back years ago when I got into this, you would barely see this on TV and it would be hardly considered amongst others on forums. Now its on TV and giving it a 'unbiased' review. To me that raises red flags. TV isn't used to educate, its used to indoctrinate.

Do your own research. The information is there. The evidence is abundant. Earth/Humans have had a far longer and much more rich history than what you are being told.

*no half *** empiricists plz*

PS: Its not about believing. Its about knowing and acceptance.

I learned about this through research on many subjects regarding Extraterrestrials. What drew me to this particular theory was, as a teenager in high school, the subject of Evolution and the many missing links that could not be explained. Of course, I understand that Evolution is just a theory, but in my opinion should not be dismissed. After learning about the Starchild, not long after it's discovery, it intrigued me to look further into the possibility of human-alien interaction and the idea of re-population in the past. Many breadcrumbs have been left behind through out history, and reading further into it, in my opinion, may bring us closer to better understanding the true origin of our species.

I understand that the media brings out the worse in people as far as biased opinions go, but as I said, I am just curious to hear everyone's opinion on this and would like to see if others feel the same way.

 

[Lawlb0t]

I learned about this through research on many subjects regarding Extraterrestrials. What drew me to this particular theory was, as a teenager in high school, the subject of Evolution and the many missing links that could not be explained. Of course, I understand that Evolution is just a theory, but in my opinion should not be dismissed. After learning about the Starchild, not long after it's discovery, it intrigued me to look further into the possibility of human-alien interaction and the idea of re-population in the past. Many breadcrumbs have been left behind through out history, and reading further into it, in my opinion, may bring us closer to better understanding the true origin of our species.

I understand that the media brings out the worse in people as far as biased opinions go, but as I said, I am just curious to hear everyone's opinion on this and would like to see if others feel the same way.

Keep going for the truth man, you will keep getting more and more and more, lol. Once I started my enlightenment I couldn't go back. BTW Evolution does exist, just we were played around with. Those 4 mentioned theories all go together. Don't take that too literal though. I don't believe in any religion, and I don't believe.

 

[II Bolt II]

Keep going for the truth man, you will keep getting more and more and more, lol. Once I started my enlightenment I couldn't go back. BTW Evolution does exist, just we were played around with. Those 4 mentioned theories all go together. Don't take that too literal though. I don't believe in any religion, and I don't believe.

Oh I plan on it. I'm well out of high school now and only read more and more about it as I live on. It's amazing to see the progress of these theories and scientific evidence.

 

[Luigitoilet]

living Starchild found, photographed!!!

 

[Lawlb0t]

Hahahahahahaha.

I can see the rainbow aura on your luigitoilet.

 

[Ballistics]

O man that thing looks creepy. So the father wasn't human eh? So what was he then?

 

[II Bolt II]

O man that thing looks creepy. So the father wasn't human eh? So what was he then?

There is no saying. Scientists are still trying to figure that out. They have been working on this for 11 years. (x_x)

 

[Ballistics]

You should check out this atlantis documentary bolt you'd probably really like it http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7380611327825391213#

 

[II Bolt II]

Hmmm, sounds interesting. I shall bookmark it and watch it tonight. Thanks Ballistics.

I don't like all the propaganda going around thats leaning towards worshiping the Anunnaki, etc. Looking back years ago when I got into this, you would barely see this on TV and it would be hardly considered amongst others on forums. Now its on TV and giving it a 'unbiased' review. To me that raises red flags. TV isn't used to educate, its used to indoctrinate.

Do your own research. The information is there. The evidence is abundant. Earth/Humans have had a far longer and much more rich history than what you are being told.

Soo I've been looking into the Anunnaki, and what I'm finding is very interesting.

Today's modern UFO's and Alien Contacts being reported have a strong similarity to the Ancient descriptions of the "Anunnaki" Android Beings. When we look at the descriptions of our modern "Grey Alien", we can clearly see that they do not look like us, or the Anunnaki. Rather, they look like the ancient humanoid depictions of Figurines. The majority of Abduction cases usually have a similar story to them in that the Aliens abducting them will perform medical examination and sometimes experiments having to do with human reproduction.

The Sumerian Culture, which dates back to 6,000 BC, is the oldest known culture on Earth. Even today we still use the same Mathematical system, Calendar, and Time as they created it so long ago. Since we have the evidence left over today, 6,000 years later, we can see similarities between what they had then, and what we have now.

The Sumerians describe Planet X as being very far from Earth at times, (roughly 30,000,000,000) miles away at it's farthest point from us in orbit. This would make it rather difficult to travel back and forth between the two planets if separated by so much of a distance.

The Sumerians had amazing knowledge of the solar system, and of their GODS coming down to Earth. They also tell of another being that they described in our terms as "Android Beings". The Sumerians tell us that the Anunnaki had "helpers" that often performed such tasks as flying their craft , or helping with miscellaneous needs. The Sumerians directly explain that these "Helpers" were not alive, but acted as so...

Not only did the Sumerians make figurines of the visitors, they also wrote down in Cuneiform text (on stone) what took place during the encounters with these "Android Beings". There are many stories where Emissaries of GOD helped out in one way or another.

Click Here to See Images of the Sumerian Figurines and other Artifacts.​

Could it be possible that the Greys were created by the Anunnaki as "Watchers" to oversee their experiments here on earth? If the Anunnaki are the GODS spoken about in all ancient texts and even the Modern Bible, then it is possible that they could have also created an "Android Race" aside from creating humans. Maintaining the idea that the Anunnaki really do exist on Nibiru (planet X), and they created man using Genetic Engineering thousands of years ago, then it makes sense that they would have quite an interest in us. We might be one of their grandest experiments.

What if they also experimented with other species outside of planet Earth? If the Anunnaki exist, then there are also MANY other races on other planets as well. This would only be logical. Maybe the Anunnaki also used a mix between the known "ZETAS" or "GREYS" and created an Android race to serve the Anunnaki. When we analyze the descriptions of Aliens from people who claim to have been abducted, most of the aliens are described as being small grey beings that have large eyes, a bulbous head, and act almost "Android" like.

Through the great works of scholars such as Zecharia Sitchin and Lloyd Pye, we have learned that the Anunnaki are said to have created Humans from the primitive man already here, and combined their genes with the primitive Neanderthal to create us.

(In their image and after their likeness - just like the bible)

 

[Ballistics]

I'll warn you that it goes in many different directions and doesn't sound very substantiated but its interesting to say the least. There are 5 parts thats part one.

This starchild thing is amazing I can't believe I've never heard of it before, did they sequence the full genome yet?

 

[II Bolt II]

This starchild thing is amazing I can't believe I've never heard of it before, did they sequence the full genome yet?

Not from what I can see. They were supposed to start the Genome Sequencing process between 2009 and 2010, but I have yet to find information on whether they have done it yet or not. I know they are gathering funds to do so though. I can't wait for the results.

 

[Zook]

Evolutionists, or "Darwinists," typically believe that all life on Earth began when the lifeless "primordial soup" on prehistoric Earth was struck by lightning.

I don't know any evolutionists who believe that theory.

Another argument for evolution is based on the work of Charles Darwin, who observed MICRO-evolution (adaptation within a species over time, such as lengthening of a Tortoises neck, or changes in the shape of a Finch's beak), and postulated that if small changes can occur within a species over hundreds or thousands of years, perhaps over tens or hundreds of thousands of years one species may adapt, or "evolve," into an entirely different species. To his credit as a great thinker and genuine truth-seeker, Darwin himself admitted that this was ONLY a theory with no real evidence or testability. He stressed that he might be wrong, and that evidence of this inter-species evolution (the "missing link") would need to be found by later archaeologists and anthropologists for it to gain scientific credibility.

You mean like these 'missing links?'

Today's modern UFO's and Alien Contacts being reported have a strong similarity to the Ancient descriptions of the "Anunnaki" Android Beings. When we look at the descriptions of our modern "Grey Alien", we can clearly see that they do not look like us, or the Anunnaki. Rather, they look like the ancient humanoid depictions of Figurines. The majority of Abduction cases usually have a similar story to them in that the Aliens abducting them will perform medical examination and sometimes experiments having to do with human reproduction.

The Sumerian Culture, which dates back to 6,000 BC, is the oldest known culture on Earth. Even today we still use the same Mathematical system, Calendar, and Time as they created it so long ago. Since we have the evidence left over today, 6,000 years later, we can see similarities between what they had then, and what we have now.

The Sumerians describe Planet X as being very far from Earth at times, (roughly 30,000,000,000) miles away at it's farthest point from us in orbit. This would make it rather difficult to travel back and forth between the two planets if separated by so much of a distance.

The Sumerians had amazing knowledge of the solar system, and of their GODS coming down to Earth. They also tell of another being that they described in our terms as "Android Beings". The Sumerians tell us that the Anunnaki had "helpers" that often performed such tasks as flying their craft , or helping with miscellaneous needs. The Sumerians directly explain that these "Helpers" were not alive, but acted as so...

Not only did the Sumerians make figurines of the visitors, they also wrote down in Cuneiform text (on stone) what took place during the encounters with these "Android Beings". There are many stories where Emissaries of GOD helped out in one way or another.

Sources, please?

I'm not completely dismissing this "intervention theory," but I'm not buying it.

EDIT: Just did a bit of Wikipedia searching, apparently that skull was proven to be that of a human with some weird disease. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull#DNA_testing

DNA testing in 1999 at BOLD, a forensic DNA lab in Vancouver, British Columbia found standard X and Y chromosomes in two samples taken from the skull, "conclusive evidence that the child was not only human (and male), but both of his parents must have been human as well, for each must have contributed one of the human sex chromosomes".[1] Further DNA testing at Trace Genetics, which specializes in extracting DNA from ancient samples, in 2003 recovered mitochondrial DNA from both skulls. The child belongs to haplogroup C, while the adult female belongs to haplogroup A. Both haplotypes are characteristic Native American haplogroups, but the different haplogroup for each skull indicates that the adult female was not the child's mother. Trace Genetics was not able to recover useful lengths of nuclear DNA or Y-chromosomal DNA for further testing.[7]

http://web.archive.org/web/20070805111104/http://www.starchildproject.com/SCSreport.PDF

 

[II Bolt II]

I'm not completely dismissing this "intervention theory," but I'm not buying it.

EDIT: Just did a bit of Wikipedia searching, apparently that skull was proven to be that of a human with some weird disease. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull#DNA_testing

http://web.archive.org/web/20070805111104/http://www.starchildproject.com/SCSreport.PDF

I don't believe everything I read on Wikipedia since it's open to the public for editing, although the information provided does look legit.

Since investigations began in 1999, multiple illnesses, ailments, and deformation processes have been suggested to explain the appearance and composition of the Starchild skull. Even Lloyd Pye, now the Project's research coordinator, originally and reflexively believed that it must be some sort of deformity.

Each of these suggestions has been taken seriously, and conscientious research has been undertaken to try and find a simple medical reason for the anomalous skull. At this time, no known medical condition or cultural practice has been found that can explain the Starchild skull.

http://www.starchildproject.com/analysis.htm

I'd like to believe that this is more than just a "human deformity" but after your post, I'm having my doubts. Still, I'd like to see what more Lloyd Pye can provide us as for as research and development goes, since according to Wikipedia, Trace Genetics was not able to recover useful lengths of nuclear DNA or Y-chromosomal DNA for further testing, thus leaving more mystery to this case.

 

[Zook]

I have to admit, this theory is pretty intruiging. I've never had an interest in this kind of stuff beyond watching the occasional History Channel show, but I'll probably look into it a bit more now. Thanks for sharing, Bolt.

 

[II Bolt II]

I have to admit, this theory is pretty intruiging. I've never had an interest in this kind of stuff beyond watching the occasional History Channel show, but I'll probably look into it a bit more now. Thanks for sharing, Bolt.

Not a problem Zook. As you read more into it, share how you feel on the matter. I'm interested to know what you'll find interesting in all of this. Youtube has many great little documentaries on the Ancient Aliens. Look into those as well, I find those to be quite interesting.

 

[Lawlb0t]

The Sumerians knew the distance of the planets and even the colour. A few things that relate to this topic that would be interesting to check out.

- Pyramids all over Earth
- Puma Punku
- Olmecs
- Mayans
- Stone Henge
- The Vedas
- Orion Constellation
- Dogon
- Sphinx
- Baalbek
- Nazca Lines
- Crystal Skulls
- Ancient Craters
- Stone spheres

Theres tons more too.

 

[II Bolt II]

The Sumerians knew the distance of the planets and even the colour.

Oh man I know, isn't it crazy? I mean how would they know that? It's fascinating how ancient civilization knew so much about our universe without basic technology. Gotta make you wonder.

 

[Ballistics]

The Sumerians knew the distance of the planets and even the colour. A few things that relate to this topic that would be interesting to check out.

- Pyramids all over Earth
- Puma Punku
- Olmecs
- Mayans
- Stone Henge
- The Vedas
- Orion Constellation
- Dogon
- Sphinx
- Baalbek
- Nazca Lines
- Crystal Skulls
- Ancient Craters
- Stone spheres

Theres tons more too.

There is much we need to grock lolololb0t

 

[GoldShadow]

I don't believe everything I read on Wikipedia since it's open to the public for editing, although the information provided does look legit.

When it comes to larger or more popular articles, Wikipedia is actually quite accurate. The quality control on the vast majority of Wikipedia articles is great, bar none.

 

[II Bolt II]

When it comes to larger or more popular articles, Wikipedia is actually quite accurate. The quality control on the vast majority of Wikipedia articles is great, bar none.

Oh I can completely agree with that, but there have been times where Wikipedia has had false information in places of accurate information. Just sayin.

 

[-Jumpman-]

This immediately creates a paradox. In my opinion your explanation of ID (Intelligent Design) is insufficient. ID uses complexity of life as an argument against the Evolution Theory, it states this level of complexity is impossible to achieve naturally.

If your hypothesis is true, it would mean life - life is too complex to be created naturally - created other life. This immediately raises a question: who or what created the aliens that created life on earth.

This theory has no basis. My simple analysis of this simple paradox relies on ID using the argument of complexity. Could anyone please confirm ID is based on this argument?

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

I believe it is possible to obtain intelligence naturally. I believe that part of the theory is wrong (I find it interesting but I am wary of any theory or religion that has the "explain it all" demeanor.)

 

[-Jumpman-]

Regardless of the possibilty of intelligence being obtainable naturally, Dragoon Fighter has a very good point.

 

[II Bolt II]

It is definitely a questionable theory, which is why it is in fact "a theory". There is no answer to what brought us about because there is simply no proof. Proof in the existence of our species and how we came about will forever (in my opinion) remain a mystery. There are too many people that will object to any theory and we will never learn the answer unless Science can possibly obtain this information in order to prove said theory, in which even in that case, religion and it's followers will be there to put a stop to the possible truth.

Edit: I think this Theory is an interesting one and has many good points as well as bad, but I'd like to believe that this "Intervention Theory" could be true, because I for one do not believe we are the limit of intelligence in this universe.

As far as Life creating other life. Scientists are already messing with life as is. This goes deep into Stem Cell Research. I'm sure if laws were passed in which human testing were to be humane, we would be doing a lot more with it that we can imagine. The Idea that Aliens may have created life as a project or to preserve their species alone, is possible. As far as who created them, that is a mystery just as relevant as understanding who or what created us.

 

[-Jumpman-]

I believe this theory is just crap, at least the evolution theory has been proven (and in fact is not a theory at all).

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

I believe this theory is just crap, at least the evolution theory has been proven (and in fact is not a theory at all).

I disagree with your opinion about this theory being crap. I could (and am) thinking of building an Role Playing Game based of this (and more) theory basically a fantasy sci_fi cross over.

The theory in its self does point out a few interesting thing about our ancestors that I would like to know more about. But no one has all the answers (If someone says he/she does he/she is trying to sell you something).

Because I plan on building a role playing game I actually could probably flood this thread with All sorts of semi-topic related stuff but that would bad to the creator of this thread because it would side track from his thread subject.

 

[II Bolt II]

I believe this theory is just crap, at least the evolution theory has been proven (and in fact is not a theory at all).

That is because you are closed minded my friend. Open your mind and the possibilities are there. As far as evolution goes, I'm not going to get into a discussion about that.. since that is not the topic at hand here.

EDIT:

Because I plan on building a role playing game I actually could probably flood this thread with All sorts of semi-topic related stuff but that would bad to the creator of this thread because it would side track from his thread subject.

I really wouldn't mind you bringing in other topics as long as it can relate to this one? I'm actually interested in hearing more about your project as well.

 

[-Jumpman-]

I disagree with your opinion about this theory being crap. I could (and am) thinking of building an Role Playing Game based of this (and more) theory basically a fantasy sci_fi cross over.

The theory in its self does point out a few interesting thing about our ancestors that I would like to know more about. But no one has all the answers (If someone says he/she does he/she is trying to sell you something).

Because I plan on building a role playing game I actually could probably flood this thread with All sorts of semi-topic related stuff but that would bad to the creator of this thread because it would side track from his thread subject.

This theory relies on buildings etc. our ancestors - presumably - build, that are inexplicable. This theory uses the same argument as religion; it uses ignorance as an argument, when science doensn't. When looking at this objectively I can only see an almost random and way too simple explanation for a complex problem. Also, the issues with ancient buildings are mostly untrue. (piramids etc.)

 

[-Jumpman-]

That is because you are closed minded my friend. Open your mind and the possibilities are there. As far as evolution goes, I'm not going to get into a discussion about that.. since that is not the topic at hand here.

I don't think the possibility is nonexistent, I just don't see it as likely. Even if it is true, it has no basis and there is no evidence.

 

[Ballistics]

The theories of how we came into existence really don't matter as much as possibly having a non-human skull to do research on

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

I really wouldn't mind you bringing in other topics as long as it can relate to this one? I'm actually interested in hearing more about your project as well.

Oh, sure I would be more than happy to, If you do not mind can I post it here Sunday or Saturday? (So I have the time to compile the info into an organized fashion.)

This theory relies on buildings etc. our ancestors - presumably - build, that are inexplicable. This theory uses the same argument as religion; it uses ignorance as an argument, when science doensn't. When looking at this objectively I can only see an almost random and way too simple explanation for a complex problem. Also, the issues with ancient buildings are mostly untrue. (piramids etc.)

I see your point and you are correct but calling any ones theory "crap" I find to be rude and that is why I responded the way I did. However I do not believe in the theory myself but If I had solid prove I would be more than open minded (But I need SOLID prove.) also I am thinking of making a RPG based of this however I have always made RPG for just me and my brother.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Yes, it's disrespectful, the crap in here (oops?) just started to annoy me.

 

[II Bolt II]

Yes, it's disrespectful, the crap in here (oops?) just started to annoy me.

Well if it annoys you then leave. I don't appreciate the disrespect towards the people that may find this interesting. You are taking this way to seriously.. it is a discussion thread, not a "Prove one wrong/Prove one right" thread.

I'm sure your beliefs are just as wrong as anyone else. I'm not saying I believe in this Theory, I'm saying I'm open to it's suggestions and I plan to do much research on the matter.

Oh, sure I would be more than happy to, If you do not mind can I post it here Sunday or Saturday? (So I have the time to compile the info into an organized fashion.)

Yes that would be great. Look forward to reading about what you have to say.

 

[Mr.Freeman]

Yes, it's disrespectful, the crap in here (oops?) just started to annoy me.

Go be butthurt somewhere else then, (oops?) selfrighteous prick.

 

[II Bolt II]

The theories of how we came into existence really don't matter as much as possibly having a non-human skull to do research on

It all intertwines into many questions. Have you found anything new about the Starchild? I can't seem to find anymore information on it than I already know..

Go be butthurt somewhere else then, (oops?) selfrighteous prick.

+2 Respect Points for Mr. Freeman. Good ****. Glad to see others find this guy to be quite the douche.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Go be butthurt somewhere else then, (oops?) selfrighteous prick.

It's been discussed, I have been able to draw conclusions, that's enough. There's no point in further "thinking about whether it could be true". And don't flame, makes you look dumb.