ColietheGoalie
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A) THAT IS DELIGHTFUL
B) Getting ACE involved in a soundtrack is always a good idea
B) Getting ACE involved in a soundtrack is always a good idea
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I don't think that's David Wise. Sadly, he has confirmed on Twitter that he was not invited to be a part of to the Smash Ultimate soundtrack.I got a lyrics sheet from a discord friend who only says the lyrics are transcribed by "someone"
"You can do it, whelp.
You can claw 'im, gnaw 'im, stone 'im, beat 'im.
I'll do this with my mind, you just obey ME!
And do you stammer, stammer seein' my claw?
You better star me, steam me, see me, scrub me, feed me my cod.
You ready already, or wheezy oh?
And bestial crushin', easy though.
And total-ly the very top
D N A, now!
You need a shanty, shanty, shanty: a song.
You're an extremely scary regent that conquers us all,
You go "
I can't tell if it's just ears hearing what they want to hear, but I actually could sorta see it.
EDIT: also same friend says it's suppossedly what David Wise sounds like, but I don't think i've ever heard him sing so, ehhhh?
So I counted through the songs that would be classified as other and cane up with approximately 72. However I also counted the retro Namco songs as other.Likewise, with the other series not mentioned that they skimmed over:
Star Fox - 17 total (up from 14 in Smash 4)
Game and Watch - 2 total (same as Smash 4)
Wii Fit - 10 total (up from 6 in Smash 4)
Sonic - 20 total (up from 14 in Smash 4)
Bayonetta - 11 total (same as Smash 4)
Pac-Man - 13 total (up from 3 in Smash 4)
EDIT: Forgot some!
Metroid - 25 total (up from 17 in Smash 4)
Yoshi - 14 total (up from 12 in Smash 4)
Kirby - 39 total (up from 31 in Smash 4)
The Street Fighter boost seems crazy, and it sucks seeing Final Fantasy get shafted like that, unless they're hiding tracks from us.
I'm wondering if they consider ones like Galaga Medley as part of the "Pac-Man" franchise or if there's legit 10 more tracks just related to him
Thank you for this insightful analysis. Boy, this soundtrack is going to be massive.So I counted through the songs that would be classified as other and cane up with approximately 72. However I also counted the retro Namco songs as other.
If the ond Namco songs and the new Galaga medley count as Pac-Man songs, 66 would be the total "other" songs in Smash Wii U
EDIT:
I made this topic on Gamefaqs where I did some Math
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76913506#1
Currently confirmed franchise numbers
Metroid - 25 total (up from 17 in Smash 4)
Yoshi - 14 total (up from 11 in Smash 4)
Kirby - 39 total (up from 31 in Smash 4)
Star Fox - 17 total (up from 14 in Smash 4)
Game and Watch - 2 total (same as Smash 4)
Wii Fit - 10 total (up from 6 in Smash 4)
Sonic - 20 total (up from 14 in Smash 4)
Bayonetta - 11 total (same as Smash 4)
Pac-Man - 13 total (up from 3 in Smash 4*)
Final Fantasy - 2 total (same as Smash 4)
Street Fighter - 36 (up from 6 in Smash 4)
Splatoon - 23
Castlevania - 34
That's 246 of the 800+ soundtrack accommodated for
There's also 99 "other" which I approximate is up from 66-72 Smash Wii U, depends how the retro Namco songs are counted as Pac-Man or not, bringing up to amount of accommodated songs to 345
That leaves
1. Mario 45
2. Mario Spin-off 25
3. Donkey Kong 19
4. Legend of Zelda 34
5. Pokemon 23
6. Earthbound 9
7. F-Zero 15
8. Fire Emblem 23
9. Wario 6*
10. Kid Icarus 13
11. Pikmin 8
12. Metal Gear
13. Animal Crossing 11
14. Punch-Out 5
15. Mega Man 10
16. Xenoblade 8
254 is the total for these franchises counting the songs they had in Smash Wii U. Of course Metal Gear didn't have any songs in Smash Wii U. But if we count the songs it had in Brawl, it had 9. Bringing it up 263. Wario had less songs in Smash Wii U then it did in Brawl, but I'll leave it as is.
Adding the two totals brings us to 608 songs.
That Leaves about 200 songs to be spread across the above 16 franchises. That's about 12.5 each. Of course Mario will likely take a huge chunk of that. I could also see Mega Man, Metal Gear and maybe Xenoblade getting a larger than average increase. And of course we don't know if there are more franchises or not (I personally don't think there is)
So maybe
That leaves
1. Mario 45 + 25
2. Mario Spin-off 25 +17
3. Donkey Kong 19 + 8
4. Legend of Zelda 34 + 17
5. Pokemon 23 + 9
6. Earthbound 9 + 6
7. F-Zero 15 + 5
8. Fire Emblem 23 + 15
9. Wario 6* + 12 (Probably get those Brawl songs back)
10. Kid Icarus 13 + 10
11. Pikmin 8 + 4
12. Metal Gear 9 + 26
13. Animal Crossing 11 + 8
14. Punch-Out 5 + 11
15. Mega Man 10 + 24
16. Xenoblade 8 + 21
That's 218 new unaccounted spread as a guess
Man I can't wait to see the full soundtrack
Do we know of any other returning cut songs aside from Molgera Battle and the Metal Gear songs (and probably fourside)? Also, we totally need more Mario RPG music. Even Sticker Star's music was great despite being a bad game. We need lots more Mario RPG music.Thank you for this insightful analysis. Boy, this soundtrack is going to be massive.
Did you account for the songs that were cut from Melee and Brawl? Here's a list of songs that didn't make it into SSB4. I think there's a decent chance that most of those will return for Ultimate.
I hope some of those Mario spin-off songs are from Paper Mario / Mario & Luigi! The Mario RPGs need more love in Smash.
With the exception of Metal Gear for obvious reasons, I just counted songs from Smash 3DS/WiiU (although I'll admit forgetting Lumiose City)Thank you for this insightful analysis. Boy, this soundtrack is going to be massive.
Did you account for the songs that were cut from Melee and Brawl? Here's a list of songs that didn't make it into SSB4. I think there's a decent chance that most of those will return for Ultimate.
I hope some of those Mario spin-off songs are from Paper Mario / Mario & Luigi! The Mario RPGs need more love in Smash.
Maybe it will be called Brinstar Depths (Melee). I didn't think they would remove it with the original stage coming back, but fourside hasn't returned even once, so it is possible I guess.Of note:
In the new Ridley/Dark Samus v Chrom/Lucina fight that came out today, the music on the Brinstar stage is the new Metroid remix from the Smash website, but it's not called "V2", simply "Brinstar Depths". Makes me wonder if the original version isn't coming back.
I noticed the same thing with ID Purpose (if the one playing in that video is the remix) and Gangplank Galleon. These two songs both have remixes and originals in past Smash games.Of note:
In the new Ridley/Dark Samus v Chrom/Lucina fight that came out today, the music on the Brinstar stage is the new Metroid remix from the Smash website, but it's not called "V2", simply "Brinstar Depths". Makes me wonder if the original version isn't coming back.
The crossover mobile game.Anyone know which game it’s from?
The Fire Emblem mobile game; Fire Emblem Heroes. More specifically this is an arrangement of the trackthat plays whist traversing the game’s menus.Anyone know which game it’s from?
I can see the part after the opening fitting really well for the colloseum stageNot sure I can picture this one working very well on any of the existing FE stages, but at least it’s another piece of evidence that music from post 2015 games is possible! Bring on that sweet, sweet Xenoblade Chronicles 2 soundtrack
I don't think music from post 2015 games was a problem, seeing as we have BoTW/Odyssey/SunMoon music, maybe music post 2017 would be a bigger problem.Not sure I can picture this one working very well on any of the existing FE stages, but at least it’s another piece of evidence that music from post 2015 games is possible! Bring on that sweet, sweet Xenoblade Chronicles 2 soundtrack
Okay, so I guess it's safe to assume then that songs from past games that get a new remix will be named "song (64/Melee/Brawl/4)."I guess this is kind of random, but for the heck of it I was compiling all the music used in previous games for something (outside original smash music) and somehow, when i got to starfox, I realized something I'm not sure has a been mentioned/thought of yet. On the song list in the direct, There is a song labeled star fox medley and seems to be from the SNES game given it's placement. Then i noticed "Corneria" (as in the song playing on corneria in melee which in fact originated from the snes game's version of venom, the space armada, and map) was not on that list. I believe it's now been officially renamed to better suit what the song was. The song itself was already in fox's video, but I thought the name change may as well be pointed out.
EDIT: Also, there's a song marked "star wolf", and then a second one marked "star wolf (brawl)." I think that could mean there's a new remix of the theme. I want to say that's what's in his trailer, but I'm listening to it now and having a hard time detecting if it's new or an older mix
I don't think the amount of tracks has been confirmed for the Zelda series yet. I'm guessing its going to be one of the more sizable increases, much like Mario it usually gets a lot of new tracks per game.say have we seen how many zelda tracks in this game compared to last time?
I could totally see this working on the Wuhu Island or Pilotwings stage!I’d love some sort of a medley of Wave Race 64 songs, maybe for Wuhu Island. In my opinion it’s a pretty underappreciated soundtrack. I’ve seen some reviews say it’s pretty forgettable but I love Sunny Beach, Dolphin Park and Drake Lake.
I have a slight fear that this is the case. But, lets not forget that we have only scratched the surface of the soundtrack so far - not even a quarter of the total number of tracks. So there's still a lot more to come!I was thinking about this the other day and was wondering if some of you guys think that like the stages and characters they prioritized bringing back as much previous music from past installments as they could rather then include more new remixes or ported tracks from source games?
I still find it weird that neither Dark Samus' boss themes that accompanied her in Metroid Prime 2 and 3 didn't seem to be considered a lock as far as brand new additions went.
just hope theres a bit more varietyI don't think the amount of tracks has been confirmed for the Zelda series yet. I'm guessing its going to be one of the more sizable increases, much like Mario it usually gets a lot of new tracks per game.
I totally forgot it was music night and now suddenly this day is looking up!It's music day boys!
Hoping for either EarthBound or Xenoblade music. I know it's a pipe dream at this point, but I'm holding out hope.