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[Soldner Kei]

However, I grew out of it to the point that I seriously can't stomach anime anymore with the exception of my favorite three: Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Rurouni Kenshin.

and tbh, you're fine that way, animu is brainless fun at best now

Made me proud to see you starting into the series on Hard and Classic, none of that casual nonsense.

Also, welcome back, Soldner.

this, Lunatic is kind of dumb with that artificial difficulty, you can still exploit the hell out of the game, Hard Classic it's the best way to enjoy the game imo
since Smash Wii U came out I switched back to FE:A on the 3DS, right now I am making super kiddos, so far I never tried solo games nor broken morgans, gonna do that

and thanks Shin, glad to see you're still around.

 

[Elessar]

and tbh, you're fine that way, animu is brainless fun at best now

I could tell. Maybe that's why I can't take it. Just brainless rehash of the same clichés over and over.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

I could tell. Maybe that's why I can't take it. Just brainless rehash of the same clichés over and over.

I've only ever liked two animus. One, Bebop, you've seen and enjoyed. The other is Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, watch in Japanese, the localization changed important lines and gave the characters annoying catchphrases like "for reals". In Japanese it's amazing, though. Just be aware the first four episodes are kind of a slog, after that though it's totally worth it.

 

[Camalange]

Some background history. Back when I was about the same age as most users here or even younger I was also a fully blown weeaboo. However, I grew out of it to the point that I seriously can't stomach anime anymore with the exception of my favorite three: Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Rurouni Kenshin. Like seriously, I've tried watching some new anime due to the insistence of friends and only managed to force myself to finish one, SAO. I hated the rest, I simply can't stomach there style and clichés anynore.

Hm, that's interesting. What brought such distaste? Yeah, there's a lot of bad anime out there... But that goes for every medium.

Growing up, I liked anime/manga but it became a more and more popular thing to dislike, obviously... I almost entirely blame it on this one really obnoxious dude who was a super weeab in middle school that ruined it for everyone. He ran anime club (which was shut down because, so it goes, hentai, but honestly if I had to guess they were probably watching something with ecchi or borderline but that would be enough for staff to cry anime porn against middle schoolers) and most importantly he had an anime segment on the morning broadcast that basically made him the laughing stock of the school... So liking anime/manga just got you lumped with him. Most notably, he had a particular broadcast that made my teacher go, "Do people your age still like that stuff?" and everyone looked to me reading One Piece...

On the flip side, I was friends with a lot of people who would be considered "cool jocks" throughout my childhood because they liked it too but weren't as open about it so I was like that friend for them LOL

But when I got to high school I saw the clan of kids that were into it and I was just like oh no am I gonna end up like them so I quit cold turkey. Didn't watch or read anything for 2 years. Then one day I was like I wonder what One Piece is like right now and then I never looked back.

I guess I just realized you can like what you want without being the worst? People I meet would never know that I'm a competitive gamer with anime figures. I don't hide it or anything, but I'm all about carrying myself like not a weeab unless I'm around those people. I definitely act more otaku on the internet because like... **** it, why not? I wouldn't quite say it's an outlet, but it's just more fun/funny.

Anyhow, back when I was on my full wapanesse period I had a crush on Asuka, so yes, she would've qualified as my waifu even though that term didn't exist back then.

Missed out. We're in the golden age now.

Spoiler

Now I just have fond memories, like, nostalgia.

So yeah, she's not a waifu, she's just a symbol that represents a period in my life.

I respect that.

This is social. Everything goes here.

THEN MAY I DIRECT YOU TO MY AVATAR SO YOU CAN GAZE UPON MY GLORIOUS WAIFU

EDIT:

The other is Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, watch in Japanese, the localization changed important lines and gave the characters annoying catchphrases like "for reals". In Japanese it's amazing, though. Just be aware the first four episodes are kind of a slog, after that though it's totally worth it.

Madoka Magica is amazing.

Dare I say... Godlike.

 

[Zelkam]

Really the same thing applies to western animation as well. There's a few good ones on right now (phineas & ferb) but most of it is just awful. Creativity is dead.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

Cam and Blubba have much in common. I vote we make them fight to the death in the thunderdome. Loser is buried in banana peels and his dakimakura (I had to look up the ****ing word for 'waifu pillow', I will never forgive this trespass.) is burned.

Edit: I know of one particular feather in the cap of Western Animation that would destroy many people's minds just due to the face that I reccomended it.

 

[Zelkam]

Edit: I know of one particular feather in the cap of Western Animation that would destroy many people's minds just due to the face that I reccomended it.

If it's what I think it is then yes I was certainly surprised when I found out. But hey, to each his own.

Edit: turns out if I max the brightness on my phone I can actually read your posts lol

 

[Breadloaf]

If it's what I think it is then yes I was certainly surprised when I found out. But hey, to each his own.

Edit: turns out if I max the brightness on my phone I can actually read your posts lol

I just underline whatever he says to actually read his stuff, red text hurts my eyes

 

[link7]

Edit: I know of one particular feather in the cap of Western Animation that would destroy many people's minds just due to the face that I reccomended it.

Let's hear it.

 

[Camalange]

Really the same thing applies to western animation as well. There's a few good ones on right now (phineas & ferb) but most of it is just awful. Creativity is dead.

I don't like saying creativity is dead like some kind of old person, but I used to watch CN all the time and even now like Adventure Time and Regular Show, being the best ones they have, don't make me want to come back for more. Haven't watched actual cartoons in a long time.

Fairly Odd Parents and Spongebob are such ass now. It's a shame.

Cam and Blubba have much in common. I vote we make them fight to the death in the thunderdome.

Blubba? Why does that sound familiar too... All of you Links are coming back to haunt me.

Loser is buried in banana peels and his dakimakura (I had to look up the ****ing word for 'waifu pillow', I will never forgive this trespass.) is burned.

Hahaha yes... It's happening... Succumb to the dark side...

You can borrow one of mine if you want (actually you can't sorry).

The loser doesn't have it so bad if they at least get to die with their dakis. An honorable death (lol).

Edit: I know of one particular feather in the cap of Western Animation that would destroy many people's minds just due to the face that I reccomended it.

say it say it say it say it

say you're a brony

 

[Rizen]

Creativity isn't dead but it's not marketable either. It seems like the media caters 90% of the time to the lowest common denominator.

I never understood bronies or waifus but to each his/her own.

 

[Zelkam]

With so many remakes being churned out of Hollywood today it's hard to wonder where creativity has gone.

Edit: adventure time is pretty good too, I'll give you that.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

Blubba? Why does that sound familiar too... All of you Links are coming back to haunt me.

Blubba Mother****ing Pinecone. That's his full legal name, or that's how the sages of old like to tell it.

You can borrow one of mine if you want (actually you can't sorry).

I'd sooner walk into the chernobyl exclusion zone, naked, and covered in sugar to attract mutated wasps to my bare skin, than touch someone's waifu pillow. I am not new to the internet, no amount of bleach can sanitize such a thing.

say it say it say it say it

say you're a brony

What an interesting first guess. I'm curious why your thoughts went there first. I could as easily have been speaking of Over the Garden Wall. I'll tell you what cartoon I was referring to if you can give me a compelling reason for this being your first guess.

Creativity isn't dead but it's not marketable either. It seems like the media caters 90% of the time to the lowest common denominator.

I never understood bronies or waifus but to each his/her own.

I agree entirely, entertainment is a business, they want to make money, so it's all about sanitized mass appeal.

I don't understand waifus either. I might just be too old and jaded. I can certainly appreciate a well constructed character, though. I sort of understand bronies, a little bit. I think. but I don't think anyone really understands bronies. It's just a thing that happened that everyone is trying to rationalize, with varying degrees of success.

 

[Soldner Kei]

the last american cartoon I really enjoyed was Invader Zim, show was just too good, saw a few episodes of regular show and adventure time and couldn't stand it, thou I am ok with stuff like Avatar, maybe because I am used to animu style stuff

Edit: I know of one particular feather in the cap of Western Animation that would destroy many people's minds just due to the face that I reccomended it.

wanna know too mwhaha

 

[Camalange]

Creativity isn't dead but it's not marketable either. It seems like the media caters 90% of the time to the lowest common denominator.

I think that's one of the problems. Entertainment is catering way too much to what they think people want so we end up with a lot of generic nonsense.

I never understood bronies or waifus but to each his/her own.

Bronies elude me, but I just let it be what it is. I've never been one to judge too harshly... Especially since I fall under the waifu category.

i mean wait what are these waifus you speak of

Blubba Mother****ing Pinecone. That's his full legal name, or that's how the sages of old like to tell it.

Ah, yes. Now I recall.

Is he still around?

I'd sooner walk into the chernobyl exclusion zone, naked, and covered in sugar to attract mutated wasps to my bare skin, than touch someone's waifu pillow. I am not new to the internet, no amount of bleach can sanitize such a thing.

Your loss.

What an interesting first guess. I'm curious why your thoughts went there first. I could as easily have been speaking of Over the Garden Wall. I'll tell you what cartoon I was referring to if you can give me a compelling reason for this being your first guess.

I went there because you were hesitant to reveal, and that was the most immediate one that would come to mind for people who wouldn't want to say what their favorite western cartoon is.

I agree entirely, entertainment is a business, they want to make money, so it's all about sanitized mass appeal.

As a film major... Yeah. Entertainment is very much so a business, which is why I respect when people can actually make something artistically sound while also being marketable/commercial/etc.

I don't understand waifus either. I might just be too old and jaded. I can certainly appreciate a well constructed character, though.

Hm, I think that's enough of a justification. Appreciating a well constructed character is a nice way of saying it. I guess I could offer my viewpoint if anyone actually cared.

I sort of understand bronies, a little bit. I think. but I don't think anyone really understands bronies. It's just a thing that happened that everyone is trying to rationalize, with varying degrees of success.

Too true. I like to think I might know the reason but I think there are other reasons for certain people and I'm just frankly better off not knowing.

the last american cartoon I really enjoyed was Invader Zim, show was just too good, saw a few episodes of regular show and adventure time and couldn't stand it, thou I am ok with stuff like Avatar, maybe because I am used to animu style stuff

Invader Zim is one of my all time favorites. God, that show was something.

I never got into Avatar, despite it being anime-ish. I think I was always confused why an original Nickelodeon series looked like an animu. I should really give it another shot because I've heard great things. Based off what I've heard about Korra though, I'm really not interested. Best thing they did was the fire ferret because I'm in love with red pandas and ferrets and they combined my favorite two animals dear god why how did they know

 

[Zelkam]

the last american cartoon I really enjoyed was Invader Zim, show was just too good

Hi floor! Make me a sammich!

Edit: @ Camalange I have a pet ferret. I named him after Garrett from the thief series.

 

[Dumbfire]

Really the same thing applies to western animation as well. There's a few good ones on right now (phineas & ferb) but most of it is just awful. Creativity is dead.

Try Rick and Morty (especially if you like Community) or Archer.

For creativity.. you could always go back. I should say some reviewers of yore flamed and trolled like none of us can even imagine. We are mighty fine fellows today, but we are no H.L. Mencken. This review of Hazlitt's and Hunt's The Round Table (1817), from The New Monthly Magazine is gold:

This book should have been called 'The Dunghill', or something still more characteristically vile; for such an offensive heap of pestilential jargon has seldom come our way ... raked together ... from the common sewer of a weekly paper called the Examiner, and they who after that information can have any relish for this feculent garbage of blasphemy and scurrility, may sit down at the Round Table, and enjoy the same meal with the same appetite as the negroes in the West Indies eat dirt and filth

And damnit if I don't love me some Hazlitt:

The author of Wat Tyler was an Ultra-jacobin; the author of Parliamentary Reform is an Ultra-royalist; the one was a frantic demagogue; the other is a servile court tool; the one maintained second-hand paradoxes; the other repeats second-hand common-places: the one vented those opinions which gratified the vanity of youth; the other adopts those prejudices which are most conducive to the convenience of age: the one saw nothing but the abuses of power; the other sees nothing but the horrors of resistance to those abuses: the one did not stop short of general anarchy; the other goes the whole length of despotism: the one vilified kings, priests, and nobles, the other vilifies the people: the one was for universal suffrage and perfect equality: the other is for seat-selling and the increasing influence of the Crown: the one admired the preaching of John Ball; the other recommends the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus, and the putting down of the Examiner by the sword, the dagger, or the thumb-screw,—for the pen, Mr. Southey tells us, is not sufficient.

In fact, speaking of

entertainment is a business, they want to make money, so it's all about sanitized mass appeal.

Who said it better than John Ruskin?

These wood cuts, for Barnaby Rudge and the Cornhill Magazine, are favourably representative of the entire illustrative art industry of the modern press, -- industry enslaved to the ghastly service of catching the last gleams in the glued eyes of the daily more bestial English mob, -- railroad born and bred, which drags itself about the black world it has withered under its breath, in one eternal grind and shriek, -- gobbling, -- staring, -- chattering, -- giggling, -- trampling out every vestige of national honour and domestic peace, wherever it sets the staggering hoof of it; incapable of reading, of hearing, of thinking, of looking, -- capable only of greed for money, lust for food, pride of dress, and the prurient itch of momentary curiosity for the politics last announced by the newsmonger, and the religion last rolled by the chemist into electuary for the dead. In the miserably competitive labour of finding new stimulus for the appetite - daily more gross -- of this tyrannous mob, we may count as lost, beyond any hope, the artists who are dull, docile, or distressed enough to submit to its demands.

Nothing beats Mencken though:

I rise to pay my small tribute to Dr. Harding. Setting aside a college professor or two and half a dozen dipsomaniacal newspaper reporters, he takes the first place in my Valhalla of literati. That is to say, he writes the worst English that I have ever encountered. It reminds me of a string of wet sponges; it reminds me of tattered washing on the line; it reminds me of stale bean-soup, of college yells, of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags itself out of the dark abysm (I was about to write abscess!) of pish, and crawls insanely up the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and doodle. It is balder and dash

I never understood bronies or waifus but to each his/her own.

I figure waifus are like celebrity crushes, only with Anime characters?

 

[Camalange]

Try Rick and Morty (especially if you like Community) or Archer.

Rick and Morty is pretty great. Community used to be one of my all-time favorite shows (Season 4 though).

I figure waifus are like celebrity crushes, only with Anime characters?

L O L
That's a fun way to put it too. Ironically, I never really understood celebrity crushes either because like they're just people too so it's weird for me to put them on a pedestal like that? That's part of the appeal I suppose with anime characters because they're completely constructed with the purpose from the voice acting, design, and role, to be that character... But at the end of the day, an actress isn't the character she plays in a film. She's just another person who lives outside of that entity.

I have one celebrity crush, but it's a little different for me as I've met here and seen her on multiple occasions and think she's a genuinely wonderful human being. It goes beyond just aesthetics.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

DF, that was an S rank post.

Godamn.

I went there because you were hesitant to reveal, and that was the most immediate one that would come to mind for people who wouldn't want to say what their favorite western cartoon is.

Hah, at no point did I hesitate, I simply mentioned it'd blow minds that someone like me watches such a thing. I only became secretive when that reply generated interest. It's fun to tease.

Your reasoning, however, fails to be compelling.

Spoiler

 

[Camalange]

Hah, at no point did I hesitate, I simply mentioned it'd blow minds that someone like me watches such a thing. I only became secretive when that reply generated interest. It's fun to tease.

I felt the only appropriate response to you not coming out and saying it would be to make the biggest leap possible. And yet, here we are, and you still haven't told us... Hm...

Your reasoning, however, fails to be compelling.

Spoiler

Holy **** that's high res. You just had that at the ready?

Thanks for further digging your own grave.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

I felt the only appropriate response to you not coming out and saying it would be to make the biggest leap possible. And yet, here we are, and you still haven't told us... Hm...

Holy **** that's high res. You just had that at the ready?

Thanks for further digging your own grave.

I'm fond of graves. I find most of my dolls in such places.

 

[Camalange]

I'm fond of graves. I find most of my dolls in such places.

You mean where you find your dakimakura that you totally had to pretend to google to "remember" the word?

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

You mean where you find your dakimakura that you totally had to pretend to google to "remember" the word?

Hah. I'd be pretty disappointed to dig up someone's dead girlfriend and find out she was a ****ing pillow, no use preserving and posing such a thing in my shed. None at all.

 

[Elessar]

@ ShinTwist ScreamPaste /)

@ Camalange Why do you say you're at the golden age now?

As to why I grew out of it? I don't know, it just happened. I can say though that I find the plots and writing too clichéd and even tryhard. Like Attack on Titan; that shown is horrible for me since it's just pure fabricated drama and shock images with no real depth. There's no reason for the violence and so it feels like violence for the sake of violence instead of a natural consequence of the plot. Like in evangelion the violence is a result of the show and it's used sparingly at first; it reflects the changes in the show and the plot and serve to accentuate key moments in the plot or to really drive home a point. Also, the characters feel real and believeable, not like a caricature and as such the suspension of disbelief is maintained. Now when I try to watch anime I just can't bring myself to empathize with the chars because they are so damn fake. They are all 1D or tops 2D characters worthy of Michael Bay films; they don't feel real and as such their pain or joys are hollow. I can't relate to them. Like I'm SAO, why did Kirito and Asna fall in love? It felt forced and fake, they fell in love because they had to, because the plot demanded it. Shinji "falling" for Asuka and vice versa felt real. It was weird, awkward, hateful, they didn't know how to deal with the emotions son they hated each other. It was beautiful. They were 14 year old way over their heads and it felt like it.

As to waifus, I'll paraphrase what o said in the chat yesterday. I'd rather have real women I can actually touch. Too many people I see (irl) who use the term waifu lose all sense of what real women are like and thus can't behave like a decent human being around them nor treat them like one. They also can't sustain an emotional relationship with them. I can appreciate it and yeah, most anime girls are damn infatuating. However the have been fabricated for that and as such are fake and to an extent ruin the real thing. It's like the porn effect. Watching too much porn skews your vision of what real sex is like and so affects your ability to enjoy it. Too much waifu does to same regarding real women.

In a nutshell, I like my women as I like my sex: real.

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

@ ShinTwist ScreamPaste /)

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[Dumbfire]

Who needs women, sex, a "life" or any of that nonsense when we have all the love and pleasure we can get, courtesy of mr. Sakurai?

 

[Camalange]

@ Camalange Why do you say you're at the golden age now?

I was making a joke in regards to living during an era where "waifus" exist, but after reading your post I feel like I need to make things clear.

As to why I grew out of it? I don't know, it just happened. I can say though that I find the plots and writing too clichéd and even tryhard. Like Attack on Titan; that shown is horrible for me since it's just pure fabricated drama and shock images with no real depth. There's no reason for the violence and so it feels like violence for the sake of violence instead of a natural consequence of the plot. Like in evangelion the violence is a result of the show and it's used sparingly at first; it reflects the changes in the show and the plot and serve to accentuate key moments in the plot or to really drive home a point. Also, the characters feel real and believeable, not like a caricature and as such the suspension of disbelief is maintained. Now when I try to watch anime I just can't bring myself to empathize with the chars because they are so damn fake. They are all 1D or tops 2D characters worthy of Michael Bay films; they don't feel real and as such their pain or joys are hollow. I can't relate to them. Like I'm SAO, why did Kirito and Asna fall in love? It felt forced and fake, they fell in love because they had to, because the plot demanded it. Shinji "falling" for Asuka and vice versa felt real. It was weird, awkward, hateful, they didn't know how to deal with the emotions son they hated each other. It was beautiful. They were 14 year old way over their heads and it felt like it.

I completely understand what you're saying, but you're also citing bad anime and comparing them to one of the most highly regarded anime ever created.

Attack on Titan I thought started out with potential, and then it just became another shonen and it was mediocre at best. The main character is basically another Naruto with some power that no one else has and blah blah blah. There are still quality anime imo that are great examples of storytelling, but moe culture and shonen are popularized and prevalent amongst basement dwellers.

For example, as Shin stated, Madoka Magica is one of the more recent series that I thought was excellent. It's misleading as the art is cute and they're magical girls, but it picks up around episode 3-4 and all **** hits the fan. My personal favorites are series like Anohana and Welcome the the NHK, which are far more grounded in a reality where the characters are like actual people that are relatable because, you know, good writing.

I think it's natural to just lose interest overall, which is fine. As you said yourself, it just sort of happened, and I'm not criticizing that but... I think it's possible that you've been subjected a lot of modern garbage and have held onto past series that you know are good (I too love Rurouni Kenshin).

As to waifus, I'll paraphrase what o said in the chat yesterday. I'd rather have real women I can actually touch. Too many people I see (irl) who use the term waifu lose all sense of what real women are like and thus can't behave like a decent human being around them nor treat them like one. They also can't sustain an emotional relationship with them. I can appreciate it and yeah, most anime girls are damn infatuating. However the have been fabricated for that and as such are fake and to an extent ruin the real thing. It's like the porn effect. Watching too much porn skews your vision of what real sex is like and so affects your ability to enjoy it. Too much waifu does to same regarding real women.

In a nutshell, I like my women as I like my sex: real.

I think when anything is used as a crutch, it's bad.

Some people definitely use "waifus" for that. It's easier for anti-socials who don't know how real women work to commit themselves to something that requires no commitment. I'm certainly not arguing that for a second.

My point is moreso to using it as endearment towards a character. Obviously, real people are real and there's no substitution for that (but I'm sure to your point, there are plenty of people who are too far gone and are afraid to actually feel that way about a fellow human and trap their brains and hearts to a realm of comfortable fiction).

Like I said earlier, I'm all about not being like... That. I love being clean. I like being a responsible, functional adult who goes to school and has a job. I like having friends both of the nerd kind and of not. I like dating and having sex with real girls.

I also happen to love taking video games too seriously. I think cartoons are cool. I love watching anime, and I think anime girls, as you said, are damn infatuating. I'm fully aware of the reality of people succumbing to 2D, but like I already said, that fear hit me at an early age and I tried completely separating myself from it... Only to realize it wasn't going away and that I should just embrace that part of me while also being, ya know, a normal person.

But yes, I do agree with all your points. I'm also aware that I could outgrow it myself. However, I haven't, so for now I just enjoy what I enjoy in my free time while being a human other humans enjoy being around.

I thought I'd outgrow video games too. I lost a lot of stuff from my childhood because I felt pressured to put it in the past and "grow up"... Now I'm a moderator for a video game website having this discussion. So clearly trying to denounce these things didn't work for me, so now I just ride it out until maybe I do.

I also can't help but feel that these extremes only occur to people who are... Weak... And that's not in my nature.

 

[Breadloaf]

My what a ****storm ive caused, and all by saying a fictional characters butt looked nice.

 

[Lozjam]

Hello Again Hylians.
Ganondorf has brought you a gift.
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[Camalange]

My what a ****storm ive caused, and all by saying a fictional characters butt looked nice.

This is all your fault.

 

[Zelkam]

My what a ****storm ive caused, and all by saying a fictional characters butt looked nice.

Greater wars have been waged over more trivial things on the Link boards...it's kinda just what we do.

 

[Bomber7]

Because walls of text that would make the Iron Curtain blush, deserves waffles.

 

[Elessar]

Who needs women, sex, a "life" or any of that nonsense when we have all the love and pleasure we can get, courtesy of mr. Sakurai?

I do DF.

I was making a joke in regards to living during an era where "waifus" exist, but after reading your post I feel like I need to make things clear.

I completely understand what you're saying, but you're also citing bad anime and comparing them to one of the most highly regarded anime ever created.

Attack on Titan I thought started out with potential, and then it just became another shonen and it was mediocre at best. The main character is basically another Naruto with some power that no one else has and blah blah blah. There are still quality anime imo that are great examples of storytelling, but moe culture and shonen are popularized and prevalent amongst basement dwellers.

For example, as Shin stated, Madoka Magica is one of the more recent series that I thought was excellent. It's misleading as the art is cute and they're magical girls, but it picks up around episode 3-4 and all **** hits the fan. My personal favorites are series like Anohana and Welcome the the NHK, which are far more grounded in a reality where the characters are like actual people that are relatable because, you know, good writing.

I think it's natural to just lose interest overall, which is fine. As you said yourself, it just sort of happened, and I'm not criticizing that but... I think it's possible that you've been subjected a lot of modern garbage and have held onto past series that you know are good (I too love Rurouni Kenshin).

I think when anything is used as a crutch, it's bad.

Some people definitely use "waifus" for that. It's easier for anti-socials who don't know how real women work to commit themselves to something that requires no commitment. I'm certainly not arguing that for a second.

My point is moreso to using it as endearment towards a character. Obviously, real people are real and there's no substitution for that (but I'm sure to your point, there are plenty of people who are too far gone and are afraid to actually feel that way about a fellow human and trap their brains and hearts to a realm of comfortable fiction).

Like I said earlier, I'm all about not being like... That. I love being clean. I like being a responsible, functional adult who goes to school and has a job. I like having friends both of the nerd kind and of not. I like dating and having sex with real girls.

I also happen to love taking video games too seriously. I think cartoons are cool. I love watching anime, and I think anime girls, as you said, are damn infatuating. I'm fully aware of the reality of people succumbing to 2D, but like I already said, that fear hit me at an early age and I tried completely separating myself from it... Only to realize it wasn't going away and that I should just embrace that part of me while also being, ya know, a normal person.

But yes, I do agree with all your points. I'm also aware that I could outgrow it myself. However, I haven't, so for now I just enjoy what I enjoy in my free time while being a human other humans enjoy being around.

I thought I'd outgrow video games too. I lost a lot of stuff from my childhood because I felt pressured to put it in the past and "grow up"... Now I'm a moderator for a video game website having this discussion. So clearly trying to denounce these things didn't work for me, so now I just ride it out until maybe I do.

I also can't help but feel that these extremes only occur to people who are... Weak... And that's not in my nature.

I agree and respect everything you have said, in fact it's like if I had said it myself. I m quite old, so much so that I think I can confidently say that I am the oldest person in these forums or at least top 5 oldest. I have a huge life and people I am responsible for so I should've "grown up" a while ago, and I have, but without confirming to the stupid parameters society has for a grown up. What had happened however is that I have created a distancing between myself and most otakus from where I am since they are freaking insane and sad. I mean, most otakus are the crazy kind to the extent that they call themselves "freakies". People who I know irl who use the term waifu are the sad basement dwelling mouth breather kind who have no notion of how to function in society. Most are anime snob hipsters who disregard anything you say for liking mainstream anime (Eva would be too mainstream for them). And I mentioned Attack on Titan since my cousin has been bothering every other day to arch it because it's cream in your pants good. No it isn't, but he won't understand why.

Like, I might still enjoy anime I sure as heck enjoy mlp which I started watching because @ ShinTwist ScreamPaste asked me to (and a tad of curiosity), but the reality of it all is that I don't have a lot of free time in my life, so I have to be very selective with my hobbies. I just don't have the time or will to sit and binge on shows anymore, and watching 1 ep a day just makes me lose interest too fast. So I drift away from every show I like. This is because I have chosen to spend what little free time I have playing games, reading books, and being here. And you know what, I don't regret it.

Also, I hate being infatuated with things I can't have, so that's another reason why I distanced myself from "waifus".

 

[Camalange]

I agree and respect everything you have said, in fact it's like if I had said it myself.

I think we're going to get along just fine.

I m quite old, so much so that I think I can confidently say that I am the oldest person in these forums or at least top 5 oldest. I have a huge life and people I am responsible for so I should've "grown up" a while ago, and I have, but without confirming to the stupid parameters society has for a grown up. What had happened however is that I have created a distancing between myself and most otakus from where I am since they are freaking insane and sad. I mean, most otakus are the crazy kind to the extent that they call themselves "freakies". People who I know irl who use the term waifu are the sad basement dwelling mouth breather kind who have no notion of how to function in society. Most are anime snob hipsters who disregard anything you say for liking mainstream anime (Eva would be too mainstream for them). And I mentioned Attack on Titan since my cousin has been bothering every other day to arch it because it's cream in your pants good. No it isn't, but he won't understand why.

Now I'm super curious about how old you are... Tell me your secrets.

It's a shame you know so many people like that though. Saddens me.

I witness the AoT hype all the time too and I'm just like... Eh. It was alright. It got super predictable towards the end too. Series as a whole just starts really big then takes a turn for the worse.

Like, I might still enjoy anime I sure as heck enjoy mlp which I started watching because @ ShinTwist ScreamPaste asked me to (and a tad of curiosity),

I KNEW IT

HAHA

I CALLED IT

YES

but the reality of it all is that I don't have a lot of free time in my life, so I have to be very selective with my hobbies. I just don't have the time or will to sit and binge on shows anymore, and watching 1 ep a day just makes me lose interest too fast. So I drift away from every show I like. This is because I have chosen to spend what little free time I have playing games, reading books, and being here. And you know what, I don't regret it.

I understand this too more and more, the older I get... I keep getting all these games but have no time to beat them -_-

Also, I hate being infatuated with things I can't have, so that's another reason why I distanced myself from "waifus".

It's the burden I bare.

But I'm glad we maintained mutual understanding and respect here (not like I felt it wasn't but I could imagine from the outside in it might've looked like a heated debate whereas I viewed this as a passionate discussion).

 

[Ryu_Ken]

Well... I have a confession to make.
Rosalina is HAWT. There, I said it.

 

[Breadloaf]

Well... I have a confession to make.
Rosaluma is HAWT. There, I said it.

Wich part the rosalina or the luma, cuz i bet shin fifty bucks its the luma

 

[Elessar]

Wich part the rosalina or the luma, cuz i bet shin fifty bucks its the luma

I vet it's the Luma part too. Heck, his fetish is even in his name: Pinkstar.

@ Camalange I agree. Also, no heated debate, just rational exposition of beliefs. I hope you keep coming and become a regular here. As you see, we're really chill and fun. We are trolls and love to flame, but only to rule breakers.

 

[Camalange]

Well... I have a confession to make.
Rosaluma is HAWT. There, I said it.

Well, I agree with the first half of that?

Wich part the rosalina or the luma, cuz i bet shin fifty bucks its the luma

I vet it's the Luma part too. Heck, his fetish is even in his name: Pinkstar.

With this kind of evidence it's really stacked against you.

@ Camalange I agree. Also, no heated debate, just rational exposition of beliefs. I hope you keep coming and become a regular here. As you see, we're really chill and fun. We are trolls and love to flame, but only to rule breakers.

Well so far I've been having a pretty great time. Hopefully things don't get too busy for me so I can keep stopping by!

 

[Ryu_Ken]

Wich part the rosalina or the luma, cuz i bet shin fifty bucks its the luma

I need to fix my post. Can't belive autocorrect actually put that.

There goes your 50 bucks. I adore Rosalina and the endless space that is her under her dress (giant mode and camera view are great for this ). I hate Luma because it's fat and gross. If it was a Power Star or a bunny I would like it more, simply put.

 

[Elessar]

Well so far I've been having a pretty great time. Hopefully things don't get too busy for me so I can keep stopping by!

Just noticed that your "status" reads from Troll to Mod. If so you're among your kind now, troll away good sir. That and I'm also from troll to troll mod.