Yobolight
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Yoshi Brainstorming Thread
the Yoshi char thread is kind of dead, I want to reinvigorate Yoshi discussion with a more targeted approach.
I wanted to make a thread where we could all reveal our thought processes in regards to Yoshi in order to come to some progress with the char!
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I feel like brain storming Yoshi micro situations against Pika, anyone interested? Im super inexperienced in the MU, but I want to get better at it since Ive been playing a lot of Pikas recently.
Here are 3 vs. micro situational puzzles. One for punishing, neutral, and one scramble.
1. Here is a follow up puzzle: You () have just landed a low percent <15% utilt on from under the DL platform, what are the optimal follow ups? I want to construct a branched decision tree based on 's moves.
2. Here is a neutral game puzzle that I want to break down in terms of general strategy and micro-situational responses: You are in neutral and both at safe-pressure spacing distance on the bottom of the DL stage and is throwing out a lot of preemptive short hop fairs walls to catch jumping approaches. How do you deal with the situation, do you try to catch the fair with DA or SH BAir? Or do you try to punish it on landing with X?
3. and are at low/mid percent ~20-40%. is fairing you in super armor as you recover to the stage and you are both currently above the DL side platform. You both have a lot of options in this situation. What are you looking out for from ? Where are you () trying to get to (e.g. on left platform, center stage, below right platform, etc)? Are there any good reversals from this situation?
If anyone has any additional vs ??? micro situational tips or scenarios they would like to explore that they can share, it would be super appreciated.
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I also wanted to explore general positioning. Here are my thoughts on general neutral positioning vertical (above & below) vs horizontal preferences vs all characters.
Preferences (WIP)
: Vertical (above), - IMO this is hard because Yoshi is fairly average at defending top platform, but if anyone has any tips for doing so I would love to hear it
: Vertica (below) - DK has a really tough time in this MU if you watch out for his grab
: Vertica (below) - hard to achieve due to Pikachu amazing maneuverability in neutral
: Vertica (below) - not practical because of fox maneuverability,
: Horizontal, Vertica (below) - Spacing from above is a horrible idea
: Horizontal - Spacing from above is a horrible idea
: Horizontal, Vertical (above), - Yoshi absolutely wrecks puff if you don't let her get above you IMO
: Horizontal
: Horizontal
Unsure/no strong preference:
What do yall think?
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I hope this helps spur some good discussion. I am willing to update this thread if we come to any good findings or w/e.
the Yoshi char thread is kind of dead, I want to reinvigorate Yoshi discussion with a more targeted approach.
I wanted to make a thread where we could all reveal our thought processes in regards to Yoshi in order to come to some progress with the char!
________________________________________
I feel like brain storming Yoshi micro situations against Pika, anyone interested? Im super inexperienced in the MU, but I want to get better at it since Ive been playing a lot of Pikas recently.
Here are 3 vs. micro situational puzzles. One for punishing, neutral, and one scramble.
1. Here is a follow up puzzle: You () have just landed a low percent <15% utilt on from under the DL platform, what are the optimal follow ups? I want to construct a branched decision tree based on 's moves.
2. Here is a neutral game puzzle that I want to break down in terms of general strategy and micro-situational responses: You are in neutral and both at safe-pressure spacing distance on the bottom of the DL stage and is throwing out a lot of preemptive short hop fairs walls to catch jumping approaches. How do you deal with the situation, do you try to catch the fair with DA or SH BAir? Or do you try to punish it on landing with X?
3. and are at low/mid percent ~20-40%. is fairing you in super armor as you recover to the stage and you are both currently above the DL side platform. You both have a lot of options in this situation. What are you looking out for from ? Where are you () trying to get to (e.g. on left platform, center stage, below right platform, etc)? Are there any good reversals from this situation?
If anyone has any additional vs ??? micro situational tips or scenarios they would like to explore that they can share, it would be super appreciated.
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I also wanted to explore general positioning. Here are my thoughts on general neutral positioning vertical (above & below) vs horizontal preferences vs all characters.
Preferences (WIP)
: Vertical (above), - IMO this is hard because Yoshi is fairly average at defending top platform, but if anyone has any tips for doing so I would love to hear it
: Vertica (below) - DK has a really tough time in this MU if you watch out for his grab
: Vertica (below) - hard to achieve due to Pikachu amazing maneuverability in neutral
: Vertica (below) - not practical because of fox maneuverability,
: Horizontal, Vertica (below) - Spacing from above is a horrible idea
: Horizontal - Spacing from above is a horrible idea
: Horizontal, Vertical (above), - Yoshi absolutely wrecks puff if you don't let her get above you IMO
: Horizontal
: Horizontal
Unsure/no strong preference:
What do yall think?
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I hope this helps spur some good discussion. I am willing to update this thread if we come to any good findings or w/e.
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